EVIDENCE of being deaf with Hearing Aid device

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:stupid: Fuzzybritches said it ALL!
 
Audiofuzzy said:
If you, after reading all the replies AND above replies can still write what you wrote,
then there IS something seriously wrong with your head.
It's like talking to the wall. Unfortunately I feel it's the same with Sweetmind. And unfortunately Deaf Culture Community is just repeating the same misconceptions over and over, not letting in any of our explanations either.
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http://www.csun.edu/~dgw61315/fallacies.html#Argumentum ad hominem
 
Audiofuzzy said:
If you, after reading all the replies AND above replies can still write what you wrote,
then there IS something seriously wrong with your head.
It's like talking to the wall. Unfortunately I feel it's the same with Sweetmind. And unfortunately Deaf Culture Community is just repeating the same misconceptions over and over, not letting in any of our explanations either.

also,
Not only you never had a proof behind your statements - for example how many doctors you've been to PERSONALLY- meaning you, only YOU, not anybody else, not your GF not Sweetmind not your neighbour or Tom Cruise or Spongebob but you yourself - with how many doctors did YOU talked to, in person? about CI?
Hardly any I think, or you would reply dr X dr Y dr Z.
You never replied what did you found out on Google- CI+ efficacy. Why? because it says clearly it does not RESTORE hearing and is not a CURE?
It seem to me it's you who talk in generalisations and in circles.

Also why do you keep replying for Sweetmind to me? can't she do that herself? I guess not because I proven her wrong.

Fuzzy
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Couldn't have said it better myself. I salute you!
 
I have stated the truth for a long time before I got the facts. All you do is ignore...but I was right all along. Then you add more and more stupid statements toward me...All of which I do not have to reply to. In your eyes nothing I say is right and I am attacked for it constantly. I am glad gnulinuxman posted this link for you all to see the error of your ways in this forum.

I cannot believe people degrade themselves on being Deaf...that is why we deafies with a very positive of being deaf, cannot work together..all that they think is right has been wrong and the proof is now in the pudding...you are not in their shoes. I am awaiting how the next attack towards me will be displayed. Those of you who know who you are..thank you for tormenting me and my Topic here...i didnt ask you to come in here and talk about CI CI CI. I have already given you the facts...why must I prove them more? If you can honestly believe that CI is the almighty device for deaf people and nothing can go wrong and there are no side effects...wheres your proof??? I mean, lets be realistic here. HA even has negative side effects...nothing is perfect and CI is most definitely NOT the most wonderful creation. I just wanted to share facts with you all in here but some of you have decided to go way off topic and defeat my purpose...overall...the question still remains...What makes you believe that Deaf children will be able to hear like a Hearing or latened deaf person?

Many deaf oralists have been going thru the same thing and they are having a hard time dealing with hearing people and their written english. So dont look at me as one person who is so negative...thats not the point..Im just trying to help the deaf children to make a difference and change their attitudes to accept themselves as being Deaf.

I have been going through trouble with hearing people who think I can hear and believe I lie about being deaf simply because my speech is good...with a nice voice also. I am not gonna sit here and lie saying I am happy about HA. I would rather live without it for my own peace of mind.

Also I have interacted with CIers or ex-CIers that I have discussed with..... that is how I know all the info I have shared in the forum... and also I know many exCIers didnt want to speak on this in public because of the way some of you attack people on this issue. problems are..paralyzed face, damage to the nervous system. Once the nerve is damaged...it leads to another problem, and another problem, and another problem...etc.... you dont want people to know about these things...that is very selfish to prevent them to share in the forum about their experiences...some have already mentioned these things and were ignored...only people with positive CI stories are acknowledged here and that is disturbing....too pushy!

And ignoring the facts of what happened to children, teens and adults with CI failure. Some CIs are dissapointing so some users dont bother to use them anymore..what a waste..I feel bad for them. They dont deserve to be destroyed for hearing people's wallets to bulk up.

I remembered one woman who was telling her story about how h er face became paralyzed and was attacked unecessarily and so she never came back. That is terribly sad! Also some teens tried to share also and they were accused of lying about their true experiences...They left as well never to return...It makes me sick to my stomach...the cruelty of some of you all..no manners no respect no sympathy...Whats your problem??? No one heard about it so Im the one who is gonna speak about it because there is no way you can scare me off. I am here for good and as long as u are too, you will hear what I have to say. I dont owe you any apologizes..because you still are the same and will not change for the better..quite sad if you ask me. They were afraid to tell the truth...Is that right? I dont think so!

Honesty is the best policy...and I strongly believe in it. Because it will change the attitudes. Thats why I always care about deaf children and they come first before the adults, who implant the children for their own reasons...they have no right to speak for the children...Deafness is not life or death.

I know that some of you will still disagree with me and I expect that but you will not ever change my opinion. Im tired of all the word twisting and putting words in my mouth...so I will not be replying to this rubbish if it occurs....and I know it will.


Thank you!! ;)
Sweetmind
 
Sweetmind said:
I.i didnt ask you to come in here and talk about CI CI CI. I have already given you the facts...why must I prove them more? If you can honestly believe that CI is the almighty device for deaf people and nothing can go wrong and there are no side effects...wheres your proof??? I mean, lets be realistic here. HA even has negative side effects...nothing is perfect and CI is most definitely NOT the most wonderful creation. I just wanted to share facts with you all in here but some of you have decided to go way off topic and defeat my purpose...overall...the question still remains...What makes you believe that Deaf children will be able to hear like a Hearing or latened deaf person?
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If you dont' want to talk about CI's then why do you keep posting in the CI section of the forum? If you don't want people to reply to something you post - then why not put it on a blog or you own website where you can control who replies and who doesn't? There are many other areas of this website that you can post - if you don't want to talk about CI's then don't talk about them and don't post new topics in this area and expect people to stand by idly.

I've pointed out side effects, so has boult, cloggy, and several others. You ignored them, and yet you say we won't admit there are side effects.
 
Sweetmind said:
I have already given you the facts...
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No, what you have given are MYTHS
Sweetmind said:
why must I prove them more?
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Because you never proved them in the first place.

Sweetmind said:
If you can honestly believe that CI is the almighty device for deaf people and nothing can go wrong and there are no side effects...wheres your proof???
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Nobody has said that. We have all agreed that things can and do go wrong. It still remains a viable choice.

Sweetmind said:
What makes you believe that Deaf children will be able to hear like a Hearing or latened deaf person?
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Children are like sponges, constantly absorbing new knowledge each day. Children have a better chance of benefiting from a CI than anyone, if they fit within the required guidelines for implantation.

Sweetmind said:
and also I know many exCIers didnt want to speak on this in public because of the way some of you attack people on this issue.
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Funny, I know many CI users who refuse to come here because of your constant attacks against them (not just the issue).

Sweetmind said:
It makes me sick to my stomach...the cruelty of some of you all..no manners no respect no sympathy...Whats your problem???
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Speak for yourself, as you are the problem for many of us.

BTW, SM, nice quote, who wrote that for you? It is certainly not in your grammatical format. Is Donn still editing for you or is it Vanilla this time? As much as I disagree with what you are saying I would much rather it come from you than one of your cronies disguised as you.

gnulinuxman said:
I'm saluting this: :bsflag:
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Funny this should be posted immediately after SM’s post :rofl: Talk about perfect timing.
 
If you dont' want to talk about CI's then why do you keep posting in the CI section of the forum? If you don't want people to reply to something you post - then why not put it on a blog or you own website where you can control who replies and who doesn't? There are many other areas of this website that you can post - if you don't want to talk about CI's then don't talk about them and don't post new topics in this area and expect people to stand by idly.

I've pointed out side effects, so has boult, cloggy, and several others. You ignored them, and yet you say we won't admit there are side effects.
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Dont you read the category that says HA and CI. So what are you talking about? I have no choice to make if you mind.. Nice try and make your own excuses as usual. I dont approve of that answer of yours. You ignored my statement from the beginning after stirring up by people like you and audism people.

So that relates to Hearing Aid issues. You have a real reading problem that I have noticed many of them dont read carefully and see my reason to be discussing about the deafness itself that we do not hear everything that proves me latened deaf people said the truth then you got offended by this. It s actually your issue and you have a very serious problem. I want to stop people from thinking we can hear everything because we cannot.

And thanks a lot , Cloggy, Neecy, Boult , EVE, and others for making more trouble. That s a very childish behaviors I ever saw in my whole life. You are the worst off than the children. Sighs!

I know some of you love to destroy my good topic as usual. It s nothing new for a long long time.. It shows Deaf people can debate and challenge with you people with a higher education. Deaf people can do except hear. ;)

Thank you! ;)
Sweetmind
 
Sweetmind said:
Dont you read the category that says HA and CI. So what are you talking about? I have no choice to make if you mind.. Nice try and make your own excuses as usual. I dont approve of that answer of yours. You ignored my statement from the beginning after stirring up by people like you and audism people.

So that relates to Hearing Aid issues. You have a real reading problem that I have noticed many of them dont read carefully and see my reason to be discussing about the deafness itself that we do not hear everything that proves me latened deaf people said the truth then you got offended by this. It s actually your issue and you have a very serious problem. I want to stop people from thinking we can hear everything because we cannot.
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Fixed. There's your own hearing-aid thread created. No CI - commentary requested on it. Debate HA's to your heart's content. Happy?
 
Are you telling me what to do like the rest of audism people did to Deaf people in this society?? thank you so much for your true colors. I have mentioned about EVIDENCE of being deaf with Hearing Aid if you mind.
 
Sweetmind said:
OH yea! You and Govt ( medicare or medicaid) are cheating since your insurance paid for you not your own pockets. We deafies pay from our own pockets for all those Deaf accessories while we are still suffering. ATTITUDE hasnt changed a bit.
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Funny the Deaf has a tendency mooching off the government with SSI or SSDI :whistle:
 
gnulinuxman said:
I did here: http://www.alldeaf.com/showpost.php?p=525565&postcount=356

I have some here, too:



And, of course, we keep getting this stuff from others:

My point is that the Deaf Culture community is more consistent in their arguments about cochlear implants than you "audists" are.
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Huh? The quotes you pulled up just proved your claim wrong. You said they kept saying CI was so perfect but they said the opposite in the quotes you pulled up.
 
Sweetmind said:
And thanks a lot , Cloggy, Neecy, Boult , EVE, and others for making more trouble.
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You’re always welcome, SM *takes a bow*

Fragmenter said:
Funny the Deaf has a tendency mooching off the government with SSI or SSDI
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And yet they claim they are NOT “disabled”, and make statements such as “we can do anything but hear”. Hmph!
 
Fragmenter said:
Huh? The quotes you pulled up just proved your claim wrong. You said they kept saying CI was so perfect but they said the opposite in the quotes you pulled up.
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MY CLAIM WAS THAT YOUR ARGUMENTS ARE INCONSISTENT. :pissed:
 
Funny the Deaf has a tendency mooching off the government with SSI or SSDI
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Obviously you dont read the link that I gave you a while ago. And you are degrading yourself as well. It proves me you have no idea why many deaf people have SSI/SSDI by their more than one disability if you mind.

Q. A friend of mine applied for SSDI. He has several disabilities. He has applied for job after job after job, and keeps getting turned down. I'm pretty sure it's because of his disabilities. But he was also turned down for SSDI! I couldn't believe it! Would you help him?
A. That's a sad situation, and not uncommon. But we don't get involved in SSDI eligibility. If you'd like to advocate for him, I'd suggest that you get the Social Security Green Book and find the wording that they use as SSDI justification for your friend's disabilities. Then have his doctor use those words or very similar ones in a letter of support.
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Thats fact! Also, I like to say NONE OF YOUR DAMN BUSINESS. I m so tired of their jump conclusion for the wrong reasons.

Also, The system are given mixed messages as well.

Thanks! ;)
Sweetmind
 
Eve said:
No, what you have given are MYTHS Because you never proved them in the first place.

Nobody has said that. We have all agreed that things can and do go wrong. It still remains a viable choice.

Children are like sponges, constantly absorbing new knowledge each day. Children have a better chance of benefiting from a CI than anyone, if they fit within the required guidelines for implantation.

Funny, I know many CI users who refuse to come here because of your constant attacks against them (not just the issue).

Speak for yourself, as you are the problem for many of us.

BTW, SM, nice quote, who wrote that for you? It is certainly not in your grammatical format. Is Donn still editing for you or is it Vanilla this time? As much as I disagree with what you are saying I would much rather it come from you than one of your cronies disguised as you.

Funny this should be posted immediately after SM’s post :rofl: Talk about perfect timing.
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It's a coincidence. :roll:
 
gnulinuxman said:
I am not a normal hearing person and do not wish to act like one. (That's why I call myself a DEVIANT.)
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Maybe that is the root in your personal problems :whistle:

Seriously, it's obvious you have some attention deficiency because you just blatantly ignore all the valid points and keep changing subjects instead of addressing them. It's like you're on the offense all the time instead of getting back on defense ON THE SAME SUBJECT. It's very draining to drive the point home with you... I bet you hear that often up there.
 
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