EVIDENCE of being deaf with Hearing Aid device

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Liebling:-))) said:
I found out by coincidence and thought to myself that I would like to share this link with you all here.

Cochlear Implants - Reimplantation and Extrusion



http://deafness.about.com/cs/cochlearfeatures/a/reimplantation.htm


:gpost: These are exactly some of my concerns in deciding to get a CI. Good job on posting some of the possible negatives that can happen!

Thank you very much for the information. It will strongly go into my decision on whether if I want a CI or not.

Bear
 
Cheri said:
Yes true, but Cochlear implant are not 100 percent cure anyway, there are some who had their shared of experience with cochlear implant received no benefits from that device itself, while others have. I'm sure every one would like to have an opportunity to know what's it is like to hear. But, Cochlear implant isn't the only answer. If you know what I mean. ;)

I agree 100%

There is never going to be 100% cure for hearing loss. There is nothing like natural hearing.

Cochlear Implant is my son's last resort since the best hearing aids cannot help my son hear clearly. I understand the only way CI won't work is if your cochela is damaged but the implantation technology and technique today has less chance of damaging the cochela.
 
Ummm...don't know about that especially if they get somewhere with regenerating cochlear hairs... Then it would be a 100% cure in that case but that is in the future of course.
 
Fragmenter said:
Tell me, do you even know why I want my son to receive a cochlear implant?

If not, I suggest you read my posts in "Parents' Opinion On Hearing Aids & CI" and I reckon that is how ALL parents feel about their deaf children. Not some. Not most. Just ALL.

Of course we will force oral communication. It is called "training", young man! Why go through all that trouble and skimp on the training process? That is asinine. Hearing families might not care about our culture and want their deaf child to be raised in a hearing world. Why? Read post #222 in "EVIDENCE of being deaf with Hearing Aid device".

In the end, it is up to their parents on the child's direction. My wife and I are still going to raise our children in the deaf world while they train and learn how to communicate with hearing people at schools and with their family relatives.
There's no need to get defensive because I NEVER mentioned that YOU were a selfish parent.
 
Bear said:
:gpost: These are exactly some of my concerns in deciding to get a CI. Good job on posting some of the possible negatives that can happen!

Thank you very much for the information. It will strongly go into my decision on whether if I want a CI or not.

Bear

I appreciate the facts. This will help greatly in our meetings with the doctors.

2 to 4 percent failure rate due to infection (to which a parent advised to taking antibiotics before and after surgery) and the device itself not functioning properly.
 
gnulinuxman said:
There's no need to get defensive because I NEVER mentioned that YOU were a selfish parent.

I connected the dots in my post. I ended up defending all parents, including the ones in your crosshairs, who implanted their children. I am telling you, no loving parent(s) would ever wish harm upon their children.

You will understand when you produce an offspring.
 
Bear said:
If I had a deaf child and decided for implant and that child died on the operating table due to unknown circumstances before operating. Such as allergic reaction to the anethesia, maybe heart failure. I realize the chances are slim to almost none, but there still is that chance. That alone would scare me away from doing so.
Well, there is a "Pre-Op" procedural which take blood works, anesthesiologist ask question if have problem with general anesthesia and explains about it. Allergy questions will be asked, If think have allergy but not sure what kind, test will be taken to determine which so they can give correct medication. etc etc.. So that's what Pre-Op is for...

Bear said:
I must say you are definitely braver than me. Because the only way I would put my child on an operating table is for a lifesaving procedure. They wanted to put tubes in my son's ears and I told them hell no! I know for a fact there is medications out there to try FIRST! The doctor then refused to work with us and told me he would no longer be my son's doctor. I said fine, no problem and went to another specialist who agreed surgery is a last resort for that condition and put him on medications which cleared it up right away.
Well, Second Opinion is always good if you are skeptical or disagree with first Dr.


Bear said:
Whereas, with the CI itself I am very very undereducated. I know very little about them. But I do wonder is it possible for it to develop rust in there? Is it possible for it to corrode like a battery at all? Cause I would think if it is metal it would eventually corrode? You may argue about pacemakers and steel pins and that which may be true. Mind you, these are just questions I am asking. Not saying any of this WOULD happen. From what I can see the implant is implanting right on the skull itself is that true? If not what if it gets dislodged? Could that cause a fatal injury or a non fatal injury at all?
No, the implant itself don't rust since it has silicone coating. the casing inside the coating are titanium. not a basic stainless steel though. That's why we CI users provide links to those major CI makers' website that give technical specification as to what kind of casing and coating and type of electrode etc. It is all there. The implant is embedded in the "bed" on the surface of skull that has been carved. A shallow bed so implant can sit in it instead of right on top of the surface which would give big bump. Reason for embedding is to help it seat tightly and flush with the surface somewhat. the implant is secured by sutures that is threaded into hole on the edges. If it get dislodged, it is not fatal. A surgeon can reseat the implant in the bed better if it happen.

Pacemaker device is coated surface. Steel Pin are inserted into bones but no longer used, Titanium Pin are used now I believe...

Bear said:
This device looks relatively small is there a chance for the body to absorb that device eventually? Is there a possibility of rejection? Basically I want to know what you faced when deciding.
Yes, it is small the size of 2 quarters side by side and very thin. No, the implant is not in the area of "body" since "head" is not a "body" :D However, head does not absorb the implant at all. but the bone will close gap around the implant as the child grow but will not enclose the implant. Once it is secured, it is under the skin and not shown or exposed to outside.
Fear of device rejection has been discussion in the past but was never the issue since the implant is not organic.
 
deleting my post - I replied before I realized that a question asked had already been answered :)

Good reply, Boult!

Carry on! :cheers:
 
neecy said:
deleting my post - I replied before I realized that a question asked had already been answered :)

Good reply, Boult!

Carry on! :cheers:
aww neecy you don't have to..
 
Fragmenter said:
I connected the dots in my post. I ended up defending all parents, including the ones in your crosshairs, who implanted their children. I am telling you, no loving parent(s) would ever wish harm upon their children.

You will understand when you produce an offspring.

Yep, so true. It is hard to explain the "yearning" one has for one's kids...
 
Fragmenter said:
Deep inside every Deaf people's shell, they do want to know what it is like to hear. It happens to the best of them :)

There is NOTHING wrong with wanting to know how it is like to hear anything.
It's human nature. I wonder what it would be like to fly, read minds, what other senses might feel like, etc, etc.....
 
gnulinuxman said:
It's human nature. I wonder what it would be like to fly, read minds, what other senses might feel like, etc, etc.....

Right on :cheers:
 
To Bear,

We have the same concerns for our son and that is precisely why we have these meetings with the doctors. That is the time to ask questions... there is no such thing as a stupid question.

Best of luck in your decision, whatever it may be.
 
Fragmenter said:
I connected the dots in my post. I ended up defending all parents, including the ones in your crosshairs, who implanted their children. I am telling you, no loving parent(s) would ever wish harm upon their children.

You will understand when you produce an offspring.
Not all parents ARE loving. My fiancee's sure aren't, for example, and it was child abuse that made her deaf.
 
gnulinuxman said:
Not all parents ARE loving. My fiancee's sure aren't, for example, and it was child abuse that made her deaf.

I'm sorry for her situation, too.

The way I worded it obviously left the door open to your response so I kind of knew you'd say something like that. Would unloving parent(s) even consider the well being of their deaf children to include hearing and speech in their lives? I highly doubt it... it's not even plausible.

Unloving parents + Well being of children (handicapped or not) = Oxymoron

:Owned:

LOL, I couldn't resist. Hope you're cool with that smiley, bud. I enjoy these intelligent debates.
 
sr171soars said:
Ummm...don't know about that especially if they get somewhere with regenerating cochlear hairs... Then it would be a 100% cure in that case but that is in the future of course.


I don't really understand what you meant by regenerating cochlear hairs?...And a cure would be if there was no devices to help us hear, than sure
 
^Angel^ said:
I don't really understand what you meant by regenerating cochlear hairs?...And a cure would be if there was no devices to help us hear, than sure

They're trying to experiment to see if the nerve hairs in a cochlea can be regenerated with stem-cells, effectively restoring hearing for those who have that kind of deafness.
 
gnulinuxman said:
Not all parents ARE loving. My fiancee's sure aren't, for example, and it was child abuse that made her deaf.

You know, I'm really seeing a pattern here. Not just here but on other boards that I frequent. Many of those with very strong views often come from an abusive or extreme background of some sort.

I wonder whether their background makes them react the way they do? Do they recognise that it's a lack of balance in their perspective? They seem to view the method of communication they were raised with as being the first basic problem rather than the fact that they had abusive parents, who probably would have still been abusive anyway either way.

I don't mean to criticise them for their views, it's their choice. But it would be dangerous if their views became policy for everyone else because many of us came from loving homes and had no issue with the way we were raised. Or if they did have issue they simply move on and get on with the life they want to lead, rather than constantly being angry and looking for somewhere to place the blame.
 
Sweetmind said:
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I am glad u pointed that out that shows that those d/Deaf children stuck their CI device into their heads forever after it failed them that I dont agree to have those necessary surgery for hearing people s sake.

What about these people who had knee or brain injured and doctors sometimes put those metal caps/plate in their bodies or brains to help them somehow, what if there's was no used of it anymore and have to leave it in forever. have you thought about that?
 
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