end times and rapture and hurricanes????

Liebling:-))) said:
Interesting...

You said that you are a Christain for many years... but you know for the sure that it's God who judge us, not people ?
I see, you do not understand what the White Throne Judgment is. If you understand what it is, please explain, to WHOM God judge at the White Throne Judgment?
 
Liebling:-))) said:
God and Jesus never say this word to people whom they love to go hell...
The Bible is God-speaking, Jesus-speaking. The God-speaking says about hell. The Jesus-speaking warns anyone including you and me about hell. Therefore Jesus taught the people about hell. That is Jesus-speaking!
 
Liebling:-))) said:
Sure, God gave us brains to use the skills. The positive/negative skills are being feed into our brains by the people, not God. That's how I was taught to not do that or can do that etc by people, not God. We (parents) develop our children's brain thru teaching/show the examples etc.......
We have brain who tell me to not do that or can do that because we were being taught by the people.

There're impossible to let the children whatever they wants because we know the God go with them and protect them... Noooo it's parents who are responsible for their children... teach them....

your post amazing me BIG TIME... You already have conscience.. Wow because I never teach or tell you God is Mind, God want you using the brain for his purpose though skills, etcs which are treasure in Head upon your body.. but those exact words i did already example that God gave us the minds to use the wisdoms, visions, skills on and on to some people somewhere in forums. but they refused to acknoweldge.. I bet some people refuse to acknowledge your truly example. HOW SO SAD!

Your teaching words I ve been similar belief, and i always thought of those words on my mind before you put it within this post! you keep to stick with your beliefs.. your benlief are soo beautiful! smile...
 
Liebling:-))) said:
CyberRed, you forget to answer ckfarbes's questions.

http://www.alldeaf.com/showpost.php?p=399791&postcount=90

GalaxyAngel said:
CyberRed,

Ckfarbs didn't have any bad attudies asking you question.. I read his post.. ahh.. Just simple asking question that's all..
He want hear your answer that simple.

Obvouisly you refused answer all.. 5th amendment isn't good Enuff..
you're not shown fully honestly answer all.

:hitit:

Liebling:-))) said:
Not just him and his attitude but his question, we like to hear your answer, that´s all. His questions got me curious because I´m interesting to know, that´s why.

Okay, I understand and respect that you don´t want to answer on his question. ;)


Liebling:-))) said:
Yes, you were right that this thread should not heated or whatever but I think ckfarbes´s post is general way to ask you question, not heated or out of hand. I brought his question to you to answer because I´m interesting to know about this. :thumb:
Many thank to Liebling and GalaxyAngel for encourage Cyberred give her answer my some simply questions..I really appericate it!

Of course we really interesting to know what her answer my some questions.

But she refused to answer.. No problem with me, and I sure that Liebling and GalaxyAngel and I respect that and let move on without her.. let her judge us without the reason. because she think she better know about bible than us.. that is okay with her for herself.. that is her problem, not us.. SMILE!

ONCE THANK YOU, Liebling and GalaxyAngel , THANK SO MUCHHH!!
 
Liebling:-))) said:
Sorry, I don't beleive this because I know God and Jesus are not type who force us to beleive them. They give us freedom to choice what we beleive or not. They are patience with us and give us time to learn about them.


Liebling:-))) said:
I mean that I notice thére´re many authors who have different opinions to write on the bibles - they use real scriptures to create their own images on the bibles to explain us what scriptures means. You will be surprised when you visit google to see how many authors who wrote their opinons on the bibles if you pick any scriptures...

Example: I pick scripture from my bible to explain what the scripture means but other have the same scripture but they have different explanation...

I saw real scriptures in every bibles but the author use them to create their opinions... I hope this help.


Liebling:-))) said:
We already told you that we beleive scriptures, not kind of bibles where every author who use those real scriptures to create their images. I rather to study on that scriptures to try to understand, not get influence from that kind of images.

Everyone who already knew that God left the world and even left the USA also since Scripture is still on earth to get people chance to read or not before people will turn into choas time and trouble themselves war bloody eachothers without who they are till end come!

Liebling, How so true that I like to study the words of scriptures to try understanding me and example why I am here still on land and example why my genernations's genernations were put in slavery.. scripture gave it answers already.. scripture don't mean get influence the kind of image I use. I just want to understand scripture gave the answer already! I agree with your correct words you picked!

I hate to see christians critize us, because they knowledged the scripture better than us or they refuse to acknowledged us actually read scripture and have good memory of verses every time or sometimes at home.. that why they did not happy with us for who we are not stand on their side..

They can't force us to go church, because the pastor who had authority in church which know to answer the solve...... :roll:, :::*cough, cough, cough*::: "YES RIGHT"! and yawn @ them...
 
Liebling:-))) said:
Interesting...

You said that you are a Christain for many years... but you know for the sure that it's God who judge us, not people ?
I always heard from people said I am christ.

every christians
Remember that Jesus himself never claimed "I am Christ" or the son of God.. Jesus himself always claim disciple, saying " I am the Son of man" or " I AM".. You should notice in scripture, people and even disciple said with SCREAM "this is CHRIST or son of God"

Peter said to Him, thou art chirst.

Samaria of the woman and people recogize and shout, " this is christ"

on and on verses of verses.....

Paul never claim, I am Chirst, but said I am Jew himself..

Most christians did not pay attetion most powerful verses of Matthew 24:5, 23-24; on and on...

that how the simple I ignore themslves people said "I am christian" and judge others... I let them BLAH...BLA...H... blah....

keep in mind, I believe that I am HE!
 
ckfarbes said:
let her judge us without the reason. [/B]
CyberRed does not judge anyone, even you. You prejudge to say that.
because she think she better know about bible than us.. that is okay with her for herself.. that is her problem, not us.. SMILE!
You did not read CyberRed's response. Read what CyberRed answered,
Are you sayin' that I know better than everyone ? You got it all wrong ! I read the bible sooo many times and I REMEMBER them as they are writin' in MY HEART... it doesn't mean that I know better than everyone.
Sorry, you are wrong because you add many lies BLAMING on CyberRed. It is not CyberRed's problem, but it is your problem because of your bad mouth. Let her give you a mint to refresh your mouth.
 
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Liebling:-))) said:
Sure, I mean is YOU... Can you do that?

I know I CAN'T walk through to fire because I know the God is not there to protect me. I doing it to protect myself with my own mind.
If God gave me a good reason to do it. I would NOT just "walk thru fire" just to show off or tempt God.

You know that you CAN'T because you have no faith in God; you have faith only in yourself. I have already trusted God with my immortal soul; I can trust Him for everything else, too. I also trust God to not do foolish things.
 
Liebling said:
...hurriances, windstrom, 9/11, terrorist, accidents etc. who kill innoncent people... God is not there for people. We (people) have to do SOMETHING to protect ourselves to against evil world BECAUSE the God is not there for us.
God IS there for us. The world situation would be much, much worse without the influence of the Holy Spirit and the providence of God. God does expect us to do the right things and use common sense. No matter what though, God is in control.

Sure, this is kind of hobbies but it's protection what I'm talking about which it's difference between hobbies and protection.
Hobbies? I don't understand.


Example about Iraq war, WWI, WWII, soliders, etc... WRONG because they have to kill other people... God don't like it.
You say that "God don't like it" but you also say "God is not there." Which is it? Are you saying that God doesn't like evil to happen but He just ignores it?

Kind of hobbies and jobs could lead risk life. I protect myself and my family against risk and evil world because I know from my MIND. It's my decision for not doing risk life. Every have their own choice either they want to risk their life or not.
I'm sorry, I guess I was not clear. I wasn't talking about hobbies or jobs. I was trying to explain living in God's will. Obeying God is the safest way to live. Disobeying God is the most dangerous way to live. It doesn't matter what the job is. Obeying God in the middle of a war zone is safer than disobeying God in the middle of a cozy family room.


Sure, God gave us brains to use the skills.
Yes.

The positive/negative skills are being feed into our brains by the people, not God. That's how I was taught to not do that or can do that etc by people, not God. We (parents) develop our children's brain thru teaching/show the examples etc.......
We have brain who tell me to not do that or can do that because we were being taught by the people.
And who originally taught the people who taught the people? It was God!

Who said, "Thou shalt not kill"?

Who said, "Thou shalt not steal"?

etc.


There're impossible to let the children whatever they wants because we know the God go with them and protect them... Noooo it's parents who are responsible for their children... teach them....
God never said to "let the children whatever they wants". God told children to honor and obey their fathers and mothers.
 
Liebling:-))) said:
Sorry, I don't beleive this because I know God and Jesus are not type who force us to beleive them. They give us freedom to choice what we beleive or not. They are patience with us and give us time to learn about them.
God and Jesus will not force you to believe them. However, you will have to answer to Them at the Great White Throne of Judgment if you do not accept Jesus as Savior. Yes, He gives you time to learn about Them, but your time is running out. If you die tonight without accepting Jesus as Savior, then you will have to face Jesus and accept His judgement of eternal punishment. There is no second chance.

Delaying salvation is very risky.
 
Liebling:-))) said:
CyberRed, you forget to answer ckfarbes's questions.

http://www.alldeaf.com/showpost.php?p=399791&postcount=90
I think ckfarbes and CyberRed can take care of their own business without your reminder.

I can't speak for CyberRed, but for myself I sometimes don't reply to ckfarbes because he uses bad language and curses, and tries to lead every religious topic down the racist rabbit trail. He makes personal attacks and insults. That is not part of a reasonable debate. When he is calm and reasonable, I reply. When he calls names or takes the racist route, I tune him out.
 
darkflare83 said:
city of god is where jesus was raised in its actually an fact or city of god is heaven because heaven is an actual city
Okay... I'm seeing two things.

City of God is where Jesus was raised.

City of God is heaven.

Which is which?
 
Reba said:
God and Jesus will not force you to believe them. However, you will have to answer to Them at the Great White Throne of Judgment if you do not accept Jesus as Savior. Yes, He gives you time to learn about Them, but your time is running out. If you die tonight without accepting Jesus as Savior, then you will have to face Jesus and accept His judgement of eternal punishment. There is no second chance.

Delaying salvation is very risky.
I second that.
 
Liebling:-))) said:
I mean that I notice thére´re many authors who have different opinions to write on the bibles - they use real scriptures to create their own images on the bibles to explain us what scriptures means. You will be surprised when you visit google to see how many authors who wrote their opinons on the bibles if you pick any scriptures...

Example: I pick scripture from my bible to explain what the scripture means but other have the same scripture but they have different explanation...

I saw real scriptures in every bibles but the author use them to create their opinions... I hope this help.

Ok, I got it clear what you mean. It's why God was tryin' to warn people about the authors who altered ( changed ) the Word of God. Let me show the scriptures where it stated:

Revelation 22:18-19
"For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book."

See above what God says about the authors who altered ( changed ) His Word and He will judge them for leadin' people away from God. If, the authors took God's Word away ( omit )from the HOLY BIBLE, God will take the authors' life out of the book of life, out of the holy city, and from the things which ARE WRITTEN IN THIS BOOK ( Holy Bible ). If, the authors add their own words in God's Word in the Holy Bible, God will ADD into the authors the PLAGUES that ARE WRITTEN IN THIS BOOK ( Holy Bible ). It's NOT funny to play with God.

I recalled readin' one book about one man ( author ) who wrote a different version of bible. He omitted more than ONE verse from the Holy Bible and ADD his own words in the Holy Bible ( changed from God's Word to man's word ). You know what happened to this author ? God plagued this man and that man was sent to the aslyum ( mental ) hospital for the rest of his life... and, that cut his life short.

It's not people's fault. It's the authors' responsibility for million and million of people that the authors caused. God will judge for that cause.
 
Askjo said:
I see, you do not understand what the White Throne Judgment is. If you understand what it is, please explain, to WHOM God judge at the White Throne Judgment?


Is this what you mean? If yes, then you got it WRONG!

The White Throne Judgment. Sinners who reject Christ will die in their sins and go directly to Hell (Lk. 16:22 -23). After the millennial reign of Christ, Death and Hell will be delivered up before the White Throne Judgment. Sinners will be judged according to their works. At this point they will realize that their works are unacceptable to God and they will be cast into the eternal lake of fire (Rev. 20:11- 15). There MAY also be some people at this judgment from the Tribulation and Millennium, but no Christians will be judged here ( We have a separate judgment.). In fact, Christians will be ASSISTING the Lord in this judgment (Dan. 7:10 ; I Cor. 6:2).

Because we never say that we don't beleive or reject God & Jesus but different belief as you. Nobody here reject God & Jesus but accept them in our heart.

I would like to tell you that I'm a neutral person who respect people with kind of religions like Buddhist, Muslim, Hindu, Catholic, Jehovah Witness, Momon, Baptist, Christians, evolution or whatever) - no matter what. I don't beleive kind of religion but God & Jesus because I know God & Jesus don't have religion but themselves. What would you say? Would we go to hell when we die because we have different belief than you?
 
Askjo said:
The Bible is God-speaking, Jesus-speaking. The God-speaking says about hell. The Jesus-speaking warns anyone including you and me about hell. Therefore Jesus taught the people about hell. That is Jesus-speaking!


Check my previous post
http://www.alldeaf.com/showpost.php?p=399563&postcount=62

I don't beleive it's God or Jesus's speaking over Hell... If it's true what you claim then show me scriptures.
 
Askjo said:
because you do not believe the Scriptures.

Don't twist it... I said in my previous posts that I beleive only Scriptures and doubt bibles. ;)
 
ckfarbes said:
Liebling:-))) said:
your post amazing me BIG TIME... You already have conscience.. Wow because I never teach or tell you God is Mind, God want you using the brain for his purpose though skills, etcs which are treasure in Head upon your body.. but those exact words i did already example that God gave us the minds to use the wisdoms, visions, skills on and on to some people somewhere in forums. but they refused to acknoweldge.. I bet some people refuse to acknowledge your truly example. HOW SO SAD!

Your teaching words I ve been similar belief, and i always thought of those words on my mind before you put it within this post! you keep to stick with your beliefs.. your benlief are soo beautiful! smile...

:thumb:

Yes, I'm agree 100% to this....
 
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