end times and rapture and hurricanes????

Askjo said:
Mother tongue means language. For example, my mother tongue is ASL. :mrgreen:

Thanks for explainin' it to me. I understand now. :)

:hug: Reba and Askjo
 
So, the question is: Is Jesus our spiritual first language right ?
 
Askjo said:
but I caution you to remember that various Bible versions disagree each other in a few thousand times. I only use the KJV because the KJV is most accurate translation for our mother tongue available today.
:roll: simply says "what the B*LL!!" ::: *SIGH* ::: I always read king jame bible only for 14 years appox! RESULT, you are not agree with HIS prespective on the glorious scripture reveal me that I respect and that why I didn't prefer to discuss with you anymore since you dont know his words of scripture.. as see KJV people turned against KJV people eachothers.. END OF DISCUSSION PERIOD! :bye: :whistle: walk away from KJV people who stupidly argue against KJV people... because they are not same biblical believer...

Keep in mind: I aint damn NEW KING JAMES BIBLE, HELLO! get it!?
 
Reba said:
If it is in His will. He has done it before for others:

Sure, I mean is YOU... Can you do that?

I know I CAN'T walk through to fire because I know the God is not there to protect me. I doing it to protect myself with my own mind.
 
Reba said:
Liebling:-))) said:
The safest place in the world to live is in God's will.

The most dangerous place in the world to live is outside God's will.

Missionaries often live in places that are dangerous. But they are in God's will, and that is most important.

:confused:

Look the example:
hurriances, windstrom, 9/11, terrorist, accidents etc. who kill innoncent people... God is not there for people. We (people) have to do SOMETHING to protect ourselves to against evil world BECAUSE the God is not there for us.


If God wants to me to do something risky or go somewhere dangerous, then I will do it. He has not yet asked me to go to a specifically dangerous place but it is possible that He would. My Hubby went on a mission trip to Ukraine, which was a little dangerous, but we accepted that as God's will. When I was in the military, I confronted my superior officers when I defended fellow Christian sailors. I was not in physical danger but my career was at risk. But I was in God's will, and that was most important.

Simple is every CHOICE to risk their life.

I don't believe that Christians should foolishly tempt God's protection. They shouldn't jump off a skyscraper just to prove that God will catch them. Jesus taught us NOT to do things like that when Satan tempted Him in the wilderness.

Sure, this is kind of hobbies but it's protection what I'm talking about which it's difference between hobbies and protection.


That would be tempting God, so that would be wrong.

Example about Iraq war, WWI, WWII, soliders, etc... WRONG because they have to kill other people... God don't like it.

Kind of hobbies and jobs could lead risk life. I protect myself and my family against risk and evil world because I know from my MIND. It's my decision for not doing risk life. Every have their own choice either they want to risk their life or not.


God gave us brains and skills to use. He expects us to behave in logical, responsible ways. Following His Word in the Bible is logical and responsible. There is nothing in the Bible that says to act stupid.

Christians go to doctors, wear their seatbelts, don't run with scissors, take their vitamins, and look both ways before crossing the street.

Sure, God gave us brains to use the skills. The positive/negative skills are being feed into our brains by the people, not God. That's how I was taught to not do that or can do that etc by people, not God. We (parents) develop our children's brain thru teaching/show the examples etc.......
We have brain who tell me to not do that or can do that because we were being taught by the people.

There're impossible to let the children whatever they wants because we know the God go with them and protect them... Noooo it's parents who are responsible for their children... teach them....

 
Askjo said:
Do you forbid Jesus preaching, "Hell"? Do you forbid the Bible to teach you concerning Hell? The Bible teaches us to WARN anyone concerning Hell. Are Christians negative to tell any posters concerning Hell? If so, I disagree with you because God-speaking commands us to warn anyone concerning hell.

God and Jesus never say this word to people whom they love to go hell...
 
Askjo said:
I disagree with you because I am a Christian for many, many years.

God at the White throne Judgment will tell an unbelieving person to go in hell because his name is not listed in the book. The Bible said, "And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire."


Interesting...

You said that you are a Christain for many years... but you know for the sure that it's God who judge us, not people ?
 
CyberRed said:
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It's why we can not live WITHOUT the scriptures that are written in our hearts by readin' the bible daily. We must depend on God everyday. The Word of God is our FOOD to feed our soul to grow and become strong in the Lord as soldier of Christ against the wiles of the devil/Satan. That involves in prayer, too and ask God to keep the devil/Satan away from me/ or the true believers.

How could you survive in spiritual warfare without the Word of God ( bible ), if you don't depend on it daily ?



We already told you that we beleive scriptures, not kind of bibles where every author who use those real scriptures to create their images. I rather to study on that scriptures to try to understand, not get influence from that kind of images.
 
^Angel^ said:
We cannot call people into intimate relationship with God if we are not also living intimately with Him....

It is God's power and grace that saves people, not our efforts.... The best and most we can do is pray for them, witness to them, and live the Christian life in front of them!....

When a christian had experiences the things of God, it doesn't mean it won't happen to others, in time they will understand God and the bible, then they will experiences the things of God too, We as belivers are suppose to teach and spread God's Words, yet when spreading His Words, at the same time you have to be able to make the born again Christians and non-belivers to understand the Bible clearly without confusing them... IF you keep on confusing those who don't quite understand the bible yet and not answering their questions in a way they're hoping then it's more likely you are pushing them away in another direction where they start having doubts about the Bible and God's words....If you don't want to see that happen, simple answer their questions in a way it is clearly for them to understand otherwise you're going in a direction where you're pushing them away from God....

I've noticed that some of you Christians have stated that it is very easy to read and understand the Bible, well to be honest, it isn't even through I'm a born again Christian, it took me quite a while to understand the words in the Bible....Give those unbelivers and born again Christian some patient by giving them time to understand where you're coming from, or what the Bible says....

Jesus wants us to spread His Words and the Bible, but do it with alot of patient and kindness too by being able to answer their questions in a way they can understand...


That's all I'm going to say! May God bless you all!


AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Askjo said:
You did not get it, yet. Re-read my post.

Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust.

For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me; for he wrote of me.

But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?


Look at ONE word, "accuseth" -- sound good?

If you do not believe in the Bible, Moses would accuse you.

If you do not believe in the Bible, Paul would accuse you.

If you do not believe in the Bible, Peter would accuse you.

If you do not believe in the Bible, many authors of the OT and the NT would accuse you.

The reason that they would accuse you is that they wrote of Jesus Christ. Their writings were inspired by God Himself because the Bible is Jesus-speaking.

The other reason that they would accuse you if you do not in the Bible is that He would not welcome you to Heaven. To accuse you is to disapprove you there.


Sorry, I don't beleive this because I know God and Jesus are not type who force us to beleive them. They give us freedom to choice what we beleive or not. They are patience with us and give us time to learn about them.
 
Liebling:-))) said:
We already told you that we beleive scriptures, not kind of bibles where every author who use those real scriptures to create their images. I rather to study on that scriptures to try to understand, not get influence from that kind of images.

Care to explain what do you mean by "not kind of bibles where every author who use those real scriptures to create their images" ... to be specific ?
 
CyberRed said:
May I ask : Why would you bring him up ? I don't forget that he have some questions for me. I am entitled to the 5th Amendment for a good reason, because of his attitude. I apologized to say this, but that's how I feel.

CyberRed,

Ckfarbs didn't have any bad attudies asking you question.. I read his post.. ahh.. Just simple asking question that's all..
He want hear your answer that simple.

Obvouisly you refused answer all.. 5th amendment isn't good Enuff..
you're not shown fully honestly answer all.

:hitit:
 
GalaxyAngel said:
CyberRed,

Ckfarbs didn't have any bad attudies asking you question.. I read his post.. ahh.. Just simple asking question that's all..
He want hear your answer that simple.

Obvouisly you refused answer all.. 5th amendment isn't good Enuff..
you're not shown fully honestly answer all.

:hitit:

Remember what Vampy said:

No more direct replies to other members. If you have an opinion about another member or towards another member, keep it to yourself. If you have a general opinion about what another member says, don't reply directly back to that member... but express in your own words about yourself instead. Use common sense.

If this thread gets heated or out of hand again, I will lock. Thanks.
http://www.alldeaf.com/showthread.php?t=21344&page=5&pp=20

So there to express in my own words about myself : I am entitled to the 5th Amendment. :thumb: Remember you were the one who yelled at me about "no reason heatin'" in your post .. so, please do not start. Thanks.
 
Excuse me CyberRed,

You didn't read my comment... Does there CAP LOCK letters means YELLING you..
Did I yelling you..? Oh boo... booo... Made me laughing hell lotsa.. i think you're lost mind!

*screaming vamp.. GalaxyAngel is attacking me.. (cries shivers) *

Oh give me a break~ :roll:
 
CyberRed said:
Care to explain what do you mean by "not kind of bibles where every author who use those real scriptures to create their images" ... to be specific ?

I mean that I notice thére´re many authors who have different opinions to write on the bibles - they use real scriptures to create their own images on the bibles to explain us what scriptures means. You will be surprised when you visit google to see how many authors who wrote their opinons on the bibles if you pick any scriptures...

Example: I pick scripture from my bible to explain what the scripture means but other have the same scripture but they have different explanation...

I saw real scriptures in every bibles but the author use them to create their opinions... I hope this help.
 
CyberRed said:
May I ask : Why would you bring him up ?


No I didn´t bring his name up but his general questions in his post.


I don't forget that he have some questions for me. I am entitled to the 5th Amendment for a good reason, because of his attitude. I apologized to say this, but that's how I feel.

Not just him and his attitude but his question, we like to hear your answer, that´s all. His questions got me curious because I´m interesting to know, that´s why.

Okay, I understand and respect that you don´t want to answer on his question. ;)

 
CyberRed said:
Remember what Vampy said:

No more direct replies to other members. If you have an opinion about another member or towards another member, keep it to yourself. If you have a general opinion about what another member says, don't reply directly back to that member... but express in your own words about yourself instead. Use common sense.

If this thread gets heated or out of hand again, I will lock. Thanks.
http://www.alldeaf.com/showthread.php?t=21344&page=5&pp=20

So there to express in my own words about myself : I am entitled to the 5th Amendment. :thumb: Remember you were the one who yelled at me about "no reason heatin'" in your post .. so, please do not start. Thanks.

Yes, you were right that this thread should not heated or whatever but I think ckfarbes´s post is general way to ask you question, not heated or out of hand. I brought his question to you to answer because I´m interesting to know about this. :thumb:
 
ckfarbes said:
:roll: simply says "what the B*LL!!" ::: *SIGH* ::: I always read king jame bible only for 14 years appox! RESULT, you are not agree with HIS prespective on the glorious scripture reveal me that I respect and that why I didn't prefer to discuss with you anymore since you dont know his words of scripture.. as see KJV people turned against KJV people eachothers.. END OF DISCUSSION PERIOD! :bye: :whistle: walk away from KJV people who stupidly argue against KJV people... because they are not same biblical believer...

Keep in mind: I aint damn NEW KING JAMES BIBLE, HELLO! get it!?
You are very obvious :confused:

KJV people turn against the KJV people??? Your point is senseless. You did not understand what I talk about.

The old KJV and the new KJV disagree each other 2,000+ times because the old KJV is superior to the new KJV.
 
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