Do you have a contingency plan?

Steinhauer said:
"Sir ... I had a boating accident .... lost all my firearms ....dangit!" :giggle:
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that's why they will forcibly enter your premise and search like they did in New Orleans.

Steinhauer said:
btw, the LEO's in my area have stated they will not obey any unconstitutional order - such as seizing weapons.
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Martial Law overrides that. The Constitution actually allows that exemption - Article I, Section 9 - "The Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it." Your LEO will actually enforce it if Martial Law has been legally declared. So... what would ya'all do?

do the stand-off and hope they'll just go away? or comply? or fight to death?
 
I'd say, "YOU DOMESTIC DISSENT, COPS!" :lol: But really, I'll probably won't let them to take my weapons.

What did the NOPD did were so wrong when they have to take the weapons away from law abiding citizens. So unconstitutional.

I don't think New Orleans had any rebellion against federal, the scumbags are just the criminal.
 
Texan Guy said:
I'd say, "YOU DOMESTIC DISSENT, COPS!" :lol: But really, I'll probably won't let them to take my weapons.

What did the NOPD did were so wrong when they have to take the weapons away from law abiding citizens. So unconstitutional.

I don't think New Orleans had any rebellion against federal, the scumbags are just the criminal.
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yes what New Orleans Mayor and New Orleans Police Chief did were illegal. 3 years later - the federal judge issued an injunction and declared their action as unconstitutional. but then - that's post-disaster.... 3 years later....

so what about "now" when the officers have arrived to confiscate your guns? would you get in shootout with them?
 
Jiro said:
that's why they will forcibly enter your premise and search like they did in New Orleans.



Martial Law overrides that. The Constitution actually allows that exemption - Article I, Section 9 - "The Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it." Your LEO will actually enforce it if Martial Law has been legally declared. So... what would ya'all do?

do the stand-off and hope they'll just go away? or comply? or fight to death?
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Well, I know the LEO's in my area. I also know some military. They are in favor of the right to carry. They have publicly stated they will not seize weapons in the event of an emergency or disaster. It became a hot topic after Katrina.

The only time they would seize weapons is if a law were broken. Also, the politicians in my area are all hard core right winger and pro 2nd amendment.

But .... if I was in that situation, I would cooperate only if they had a warrant unless I felt me or my family were under a threat - then there would be no way they could get them from me. I would be guilty of civil disobedience. Its my private property they would be "stealing" and that is how I would view it.


I will have to look up the statutes, but you have the right to protect yourself from unlawful search and seizure. You do not have to consent to a search of your premises. You even have the right to protect yourself with the appropriate force from an unlawful arrest - but you had better be 200% sure you are in the right.

I would not have a shoot out with the police. The one's in my area are on "my" team.

But ... I think you are referring to rogue LEO's? that is a whole different story.

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So, my backup plan in case of SHTF is to have plenty of canned foods or MREs (if available, MREs has very high calories.), take a couple of weapons and plenty of ammo with me, take my truck (if EMP doesn't happens in my area), probably take 10 ten-gallons of jerrycans (if possible), and of course, my dog.

Well, there are lot of ifs, so, let's hope it won't happens to us all in near future.
 
Texan Guy said:
So, my backup plan in case of SHTF is to have plenty of canned foods or MREs (if available, MREs has very high calories.), take a couple of weapons and plenty of ammo with me, take my truck (if EMP doesn't happens in my area), probably take 10 ten-gallons of jerrycans (if possible), and of course, my dog.

Well, there are lot of ifs, so, let's hope it won't happens to us all in near future.
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if you lived in the inner city, would you wait it out until the riots died down?

Or would you make a run for it immediately?

I can't think of a worse scenario than being surrounded by a gazillion scared, panicking people. If in the inner city, I would leave via sewer tunnels if I could.
 
Jiro said:
yes what New Orleans Mayor and New Orleans Police Chief did were illegal. 3 years later - the federal judge issued an injunction and declared their action as unconstitutional. but then - that's post-disaster.... 3 years later....

so what about "now" when the officers have arrived to confiscate your guns? would you get in shootout with them?
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Oh, I won't shootout with them, I'm sure they have the bulletproof vests on them, there are deputies in my town that wear the bulletproof vests.

Okay, so, what I'd do, I'd hide them that a deputy hopefully didn't think of a place. Something unusual place for the cops to look at.
 
Steinhauer said:
if you lived in the inner city, would you wait it out until the riots died down?

Or would you make a run for it immediately?

I can't think of a worse scenario than being surrounded by a gazillion scared, panicking people. If in the inner city, I would leave via sewer tunnels if I could.
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Storm and sewer tunnels, that's all I can think of. I bet those tunnels under the city are like a little mouse in the large maze, it'd be best if you have a compass and map.
 
Steinhauer said:
if you lived in the inner city, would you wait it out until the riots died down?

Or would you make a run for it immediately?

I can't think of a worse scenario than being surrounded by a gazillion scared, panicking people. If in the inner city, I would leave via sewer tunnels if I could.
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all I can say is assess the situation and use your best judgment
 
Jiro said:
here's a scenario. the martial law has been declared. the police officers, national guards, and/or private security forces are going door-to-door to confiscate the weapons.

what would you do?
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You might be interested in this:

Hide Your Guns - Former Special Forces Officer Shares His Guerrilla Secrets For Hiding Your Guns From Criminals And Other Predators.

I'm sorry that the video isn't captioned. The gist of the video is brief introduction to the printed material. I'll try to transcribe it later.

However, the real information is in the text.

If you want the technical details, you have to order the DVD/book.

The bottom line is, keeping a low profile and hiding your weapons not just from the criminal looters but also from government agencies.

Part of his plan is to bury some of your weapons and ammo off-site, in the woods somewhere. That simply isn't practical for me.

He also has other resources for living off the grid, such as gardening, solar power, survival training, etc.

Very interesting.
 
Interesting thread. From what I gather, when SHTF, you are all going to be standing around making gourmet, mouthwatering food and holding machine guns.

:)
 
TheWriteAlex said:
Interesting thread. From what I gather, when SHTF, you are all going to be standing around making gourmet, mouthwatering food and holding machine guns.

:)
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Y'all come join the party! :lol:
 
Reba said:
Y'all come join the party! :lol:
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Join? Hell, I'll be the one throwin' it! :laugh2:

Mmm, ya'll want in on this here tasty squirrel cacciatore?! mmmmm mmmmm!

But you bring the guns. I don't have any :(
 
Reba said:
You might be interested in this:

Hide Your Guns - Former Special Forces Officer Shares His Guerrilla Secrets For Hiding Your Guns From Criminals And Other Predators.

I'm sorry that the video isn't captioned. The gist of the video is brief introduction to the printed material. I'll try to transcribe it later.

However, the real information is in the text.

If you want the technical details, you have to order the DVD/book.

The bottom line is, keeping a low profile and hiding your weapons not just from the criminal looters but also from government agencies.

Part of his plan is to bury some of your weapons and ammo off-site, in the woods somewhere. That simply isn't practical for me.

He also has other resources for living off the grid, such as gardening, solar power, survival training, etc.

Very interesting.
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problem is - some states have a list of who owns what guns and how many guns like NJ. I'm required to apply for permit for every time I want to buy a handgun. So they would probably tear my house down just to find it.
 
Jiro said:
problem is - some states have a list of who owns what guns and how many guns like NJ. I'm required to apply for permit for every time I want to buy a handgun. So they would probably tear my house down just to find it.
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In Georgia there is not a requirement to register guns. You do not even have to provide SS number when buying one.
 
Jiro said:
problem is - some states have a list of who owns what guns and how many guns like NJ. I'm required to apply for permit for every time I want to buy a handgun. So they would probably tear my house down just to find it.
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That's why you might want to keep at least one gun elsewhere.
 
:hmm: Wonder if not answering the door is an option. Not sure they could kick in the door to look for guns :dunno:

Once they did.....:hmm:
 
TXgolfer said:
:hmm: Wonder if not answering the door is an option. Not sure they could kick in the door to look for guns :dunno:

Once they did.....:hmm:
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PLAY DEAD!

Or pretend to be a bean bag chair ... like when Jehovah's witnesses come around ;)
 
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