Do you have a contingency plan?

[rockdrummer]

They get paid to do fear-mongering
I get paid to do fear-dispelling

so my question for you - why is it that people tend to believe more & strongly on exaggerated threats than understated threats?


well if I do know and if Gingrich & Forstchen mentioned about it, that would defeat the purpose of having a counteractive defense capability, eh? Beside - the implementations & protocols should remain classified.


at first - not at all. after reading your sentence, I just did now. It confirmed my reason for not reading entire article in the first place. It's same old fear-mongering song for past couple decades - dirty bomb. nerve gas. sleeper cells. etc.

and this is where we agree to disagree. I appreciate your comments.

 

[Reba]

You raise an excellent point here. While I don't hold with the Christian view, I do hold that it is better for us to help others than to be be alone with a pile of canned meat and beans. People have always done better as a group (ie. families, townships, etc..) because we are social beings.

Too many canned beans and you'll be left alone anyway!

j/k

 

[Reba]

How does one prepare for death. Make your peace with whatever you believe in and kiss your ass goodbye. there is not much else you can do unless you have access to a fallout shelter and even then it's questionable how long life can be sustained.

That reminds me of NBC training. When the instructor was asked what is the best position to take during an all-out nuke attack, he said, "bend forward as far as you can, grasp both ankles . . . then kiss your ass good-bye."

 

[Jiro]

How does one prepare for death. Make your peace with whatever you believe in and kiss your ass goodbye. there is not much else you can do unless you have access to a fallout shelter and even then it's questionable how long life can be sustained.

this thread is about EMP attack, not nuclear.

 

[Reba]

this thread is about EMP attack, not nuclear.

One should have a contingency plan for all eventualities. That could be NBC warfare, EMP attack, earthquakes, hurricanes, civil disturbance (riots and looting), power grid black out, wild fires, floods, etc.

Even an EMP attack might not happen in a vacuum. It could be the result of, in combination with, or the precursor to some other forms of attack.

 

[rockdrummer]

this thread is about EMP attack, not nuclear.

How do you think EMP is delivered?

 

[Jiro]

For the most part, it appears individuals have contingency plans of varying degrees and components.

However, you aren't considering the plans (or lack of them) for your extended families, local communities, states, and nation.

What is the point of you surviving alone on a mountain top? Is that what you really want?

Do we want to survive as a scattering of random mountain men while the rest of the country disintegrates? Or do we have a responsibility to help others thru the struggle?

Do we have a Darwinian "every man for himself, survival of the fittest" outlook, or a Christian "what can I do to help, trusting God" perspective?

You raise an excellent point here. While I don't hold with the Christian view, I do hold that it is better for us to help others than to be be alone with a pile of canned meat and beans. People have always done better as a group (ie. families, townships, etc..) because we are social beings.

exactly. it's already been historically proven that we will survive better as a community than as a one-man army. You want a proof? just look at tons of news relating to disasters for past several decades. and the primitive tribes. and animals like wolves/monkeys/lions/elephants.

 

[Jiro]

How do you think EMP is delivered?

there is a non-nuclear version and it's much more feasible that way. The Americans dropped an EMP bomb in Iraq back in 1991

 

[Jiro]

One should have a contingency plan for all eventualities. That could be NBC warfare, EMP attack, earthquakes, hurricanes, civil disturbance (riots and looting), power grid black out, wild fires, floods, etc.

Even an EMP attack might not happen in a vacuum. It could be the result of, in combination with, or the precursor to some other forms of attack.

in event of nuclear and biological warfare - the only contingency plan I have is, as your instructor said, "bend forward as far as you can, grasp both ankles . . . then kiss your ass good-bye."

 

[Reba]

in event of nuclear and biological warfare - the only contingency plan I have is, as your instructor said, "bend forward as far as you can, grasp both ankles . . . then kiss your ass good-bye."

Actually, unless you are at ground zero, those events are survivable.

There are too many variables for a simple answer.

 

[Jiro]

Actually, unless you are at ground zero, those events are survivable.

There are too many variables for a simple answer.

where I am... yep - gonna stand at my window looking at NYC and drink my last cup of burnt coffee. It's a matter of rolling dice because we won't know exactly where the nuclear missile will hit us. My beloved home area is every enemy's target

yup... my only contingency plan....

 

[Reba]

... we won't know exactly where the nuclear missile will hit us....

You (and your neighbors) might not know what's coming but there will be those who will know. Missiles don't travel untracked.

 

[deafskeptic]

Too many canned beans and you'll be left alone anyway!

j/k

I certainly don't want to be left with piles of spam or holed up in some dark cave like building all alone.

 

[deafskeptic]

exactly. it's already been historically proven that we will survive better as a community than as a one-man army. You want a proof? just look at tons of news relating to disasters for past several decades. and the primitive tribes. and animals like wolves/monkeys/lions/elephants.

Being a one man army does make for a great Hollywood movie.

 

[somedeafdudefromPNW]

I certainly don't want to be left with piles of spam or holed up in some dark cave like building all alone.

Wouldn't make a difference to me if I was or not.

I need a life.

 

[rockdrummer]

there is a non-nuclear version and it's much more feasible that way. The Americans dropped an EMP bomb in Iraq back in 1991

First of while yes this thread is about EMP if you read the OP it talks about nuclear delivery. Secondly, nuclear delivery is going to be the most likley choice due to the limited range of NNEMP devices.

 

[rockdrummer]

Actually, unless you are at ground zero, those events are survivable.

There are too many variables for a simple answer.

That is not necessiarly true. Nuclear fallout can reach much further out than ground zero. It depends on the payload and magnituted of the bomb.

 

[Jiro]

You (and your neighbors) might not know what's coming but there will be those who will know. Missiles don't travel untracked.

right - NORAD can track any missiles flying but they can only guess its trajectory based on type of missiles and original launch destination.

I pray that it will be announced in tv so I can hurry and brew up my last cup of coffee

 

[Jiro]

That is not necessiarly true. Nuclear fallout can reach much further out than ground zero. It depends on the payload and magnituted of the bomb.

and the geographical condition along with weather condition. Simply put - it's fubar especially for those living in major metropolitan areas. not gonna bother quickly evacuating and all.

 

[Jiro]

First of while yes this thread is about EMP if you read the OP it talks about nuclear delivery.

oh - you're right.

Secondly, nuclear delivery is going to be the most likley choice due to the limited range of NNEMP devices.

perhaps and not gonna discard that out of window. Just that I think it's so unlikely we'll ever have a nuclear war because it's madness. Even Iran & NK officials will not do what their leaders want.

It is much more practical and simpler to set off NNEMP bomb at strategic locations such as major power station (remember Northeast Blackout of 2003) and major communication center.