Dislike my cochlear device after 3 years using it...??

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Oooh ouch!

kazing!

Not really that much of a ouch/kazing... Not the first time ive said it.

 

[Daredevel7]

Not really that much of a ouch/kazing... Not the first time ive said it.

I guess it's the first I've seen it.

 

[faire_jour]

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get lost FJ

get over yourself. You don't bother me, and you don't have anything to add, so please let us have an actual conversation rather than assumptions and name calling.

 

[faire_jour]

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it must feel awful inside to be so closed-minded that you have to hate people who have new ideas ans different opinions...

 

[Daredevel7]

I smell hate.

 

[Hohtopics]

I have a Cochlear Nucleus BTE. I don't know what version the nucleus is. I think i might be eligible for an upgrade now. I see the newest ones seem to be much smaller.

The strange thing is that lately i actually have to turn all my settings down. I can hear better with lower settings. Things don't seem to rush in all at once when i lower it. I'm going to make an appointment for the mapping, upgrade and to get a long cord.

Another possibility is that you could use a new processor. If the one you're currently wearing is the same you've had since you first had your implant, then it could be somewhat affected from the wear and tear. I just had mine exchanged for a newer one and was also able to do so under warranty.

 

[posts from hell]

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get over yourself. You don't bother me, and you don't have anything to add, so please let us have an actual conversation rather than assumptions and name calling.

an actual conversation isnt stirring the pot, just to let you know.

 

[Banjo]

Oh golly, some people don't need any help making themselves an easy target.

 

[shel90]

Seems the problem some of us have is with ONLY ASL or ONLY spoken language being the language of instruction and conversation within the classroom (rather than an isolated pullout session 1-3 X a week or watching Signing Time videos here and there) for those of us who want to raise our children bilingual.

How are BiBi programs only ASL when English is being taught as well? That is what I dont get. It seems like English can only be mastered if one can do it in the spoken form and that is somewhat a form of audism if not blantant audist.

 

[GrendelQ]

How are BiBi programs only ASL when English is being taught as well? That is what I dont get. It seems like English can only be mastered if one can do it in the spoken form and that is somewhat a form of audism if not blantant audist.

You find that English is typically used equally as the language of instruction and conversation in a classroom in most bi-bi schools? At my daughter's bi-bi school, ASL is used for these purposes and written English is a subject that's taught -- except for within the auditory access classes (where both ASL and spoken English are used by instructors in teaching the classes, and by students in conversation).

 

[BecLak]

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no, i have specifically, over and over, said that reading and writing are COMPLETELY unrelated to spoken english. One can easily have one without the other.

i am saying that no one can learn any language without using and being exposed to a language. And pull out speech therapy is not enough time to learn a language.

would anyone here advocate teaching ASL through an hour a week sessions?

Beclak, I think FJ has written this plainly several times.

It is plain that FJ believes that you cannot master the entire English language without speaking. My point is - it is irrevelent how much time you spend in speech therapy to learn to articulate whether it be 20 mins, a hour, a week, a month, a year or years, articulation helps some, but you can master the entire English language without the need to speak it. Deaf children/people do not need to speak to communicate. Visual and sign language surpasses all communication barriers if we allow it to.

 

[shel90]

You find that English is typically used equally as the language of instruction and conversation in a classroom in most bi-bi schools? At my daughter's bi-bi school, ASL is used for these purposes and written English is a subject that's taught -- except for within the auditory access classes (where both ASL and spoken English are used by instructors in teaching the classes, and by students in conversation).

As long as the children are mastering both languages whether they have speech skills or not, that should be the main focus. Why the heavy focus on speech skills>

 

[deafdyke]

Most, if not all, are given the opportunity to develop speech skills using English as well.

FJ just has a problem with ASL being the language of instruction at the Deaf schools. That is what it seems like what she is complaining about. *shrugs*
Seems the problem some of us have is with ONLY ASL or ONLY spoken language being the language of instruction and conversation within the classroom (rather than an isolated pullout session 1-3 X a week or watching Signing Time videos here and there) for those of us who want to raise our children bilingual.

Yes, it's quite rare overall for kids to be totally voice off. Most dhh kids do get a pretty hefty dose of spoken language/oracy instruction.....and not just survival speech. Granted, that DOES depend on the school. But there are quite a few Signing schools that have very decent spoken language departments. However, it can be hard for the state schools to attract talented speech therapists. Most speech therapists who are familiar with how to teach dhh kids tend to be attracted to oral only/private programs.
I think right now, Deaf Ed is slowly transistioning to hoh friendly bilingal ed. Hell, maybe in ten or twenty years we'll have ASL classes at Clarke if it wants to survive as an actual school, rather then just a preschool. I mean hell, there are hoh kids at a lot of schools for the deaf (and not CID/St. Josephs etc)....you would not have seen that even 20 years ago!

actually, i'm advocating access to the language and immersion, NOT speech therapy. Therapy is for articulation NOT language learning. You can't teach language fluently through therapy.

Oh really? What about auditory verbal therapy? What about the fact that students who attend Clarke have speech therapy 3 times a day? What about the fact that hearing students who have language disorders take speech therapy to correct language disorders?

 

[shel90]

actually, i'm advocating access to the language and immersion, NOT speech therapy. Therapy is for articulation NOT language learning. You can't teach language fluently through therapy.

I had speech therapy so by your definition, I am not fluent in English.

Thanks for the heads up.

 

[Miss-Delectable]

Then why do some hearing people believe that speech therapy teaches the child to develop and speak a language?

 

[faire_jour]

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actually, i'm advocating access to the language and immersion, NOT speech therapy. Therapy is for articulation NOT language learning. You can't teach language fluently through therapy.

I had speech therapy so by your definition, I am not fluent in English.

Thanks for the heads up.

you were immersed in spoken language all the time! It was the only language you were ever exposed to. You didn't learn it soley through therapy, that's the whole point.

do you actually think that an oral deaf child could learn asl through 20 minute pull outs?

 

[faire_jour]

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no, i have specifically, over and over, said that reading and writing are COMPLETELY unrelated to spoken english. One can easily have one without the other.

i am saying that no one can learn any language without using and being exposed to a language. And pull out speech therapy is not enough time to learn a language.

would anyone here advocate teaching ASL through an hour a week sessions?

Beclak, I think FJ has written this plainly several times.

It is plain that FJ believes that you cannot master the entire English language without speaking. My point is - it is irrevelent how much time you spend in speech therapy to learn to articulate whether it be 20 mins, a hour, a week, a month, a year or years, articulation helps some, but you can master the entire English language without the need to speak it. Deaf children/people do not need to speak to communicate. Visual and sign language surpasses all communication barriers if we allow it to.

i never said that at all. But there are people who value spoken english in addition to written english.

 

[green427]

Then why do some hearing people believe that speech therapy teaches the child to develop and speak a language?

The world judges people by how they speak. If you can't speak the language, then you probably don't know the language. It is human behavior.

 

[BecLak]

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i never said that at all. But there are people who value spoken english in addition to written english.

And you make it very clear in the vast majority of your posts that you are one of them. But, of course you would - you are hearing. But it is not about you, it is about Deaf children/people, so to push hearing peoples' values of spoken language is considered blatant audism.

 

[BecLak]

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you were immersed in spoken language all the time! It was the only language you were ever exposed to. You didn't learn it soley through therapy, that's the whole point.

do you actually think that an oral deaf child could learn asl through 20 minute pull outs?

"Access to language" "immersed in spoken language" So you are now advocating for oral-only?