Discuss about dangerous dogs

[SxyPorkie]

Oh my gosh...speaking of dangerous dogs..here is what happened to us yesterday..

I took my son and daughter for my daughter's softball game and I went to sit on the bench, another mother came to sit next to me. She brought her 2 small children and her rotweiller. My son saw the dog and he went over to pet it and I was like NO! The woman said the dog is not dangerous and loves kids. Still, I always get nervous cuz my cousin when he was a baby got brutally attacked by the pet dog which was a Doberman..nearly killed him. Because I was there ..I was about 10 years old, I have issues with big dogs and small children together. Doesnt matter what breed. Anyways..I let my son pet the BACK of the dog not its head..no way. My husband shows up 30 mins later...and he saw the dog and I told him that the dog likes children so he walked with our son over to the dog and as my son was about to pet him the dog jumped up and started attacking at my husband barking, growling and snarling and I immediately grabbed my son. Luckily the dog was on a leash and the woman said "I am sorry..he doesnt like men." I am like WTF..WHY FUCKING bring the dog to a park full of adults and children if he doesnt like men? Forget letting my son pet a big dog ever again! My husband said if the dog bit him or our son, he will seriously fuck the dog up and it will become ugly. How stupid can that woman be? That means she will bring the dog to every game (yesterday was the first game)? What should I do? Report to the police or what?

You can report to police and ASPCA.. if you know the name of the dog owner and address....

 

[WhisperHorse]

Shel90,

some of dogs would hate women or men or something by reason..

Once, my best friend had a dog is lab mixed(husky include) and he's beautiful dog. His name is Duke, he always growl at men but if old men or a boy kid, he wouldn't growl at.. I was puzzled and spoke with my best friend's mother about that, she said that Duke used to be abuse by man that used to own him. His wife forced him to give him up, so Duke end up growl at any men because he remember his last owner....

Also, my uncle own one dog, Im not sure what kind breed she is and I think it's more like mini gold rev. And, she hate all of men because Vet found out that she had been abused and raped by a man. She end up ran away but my uncle did try to get her in the truck instead of having her hurt from anything but she put her faith in him and she's happy with her new family with my uncle but she was growling at my family who is man until she got used to them and didn't growl at them anymore unless if she meet a new man, will growl...

Same with my dog, Lucy... She hate my two uncles, I don't know why until I found out that one of my uncles who dislike kids since Lucy love kids, she always protect kids from my uncle, it's cute of her also she knew that my other uncle used to work for police to training dogs, she is afraid of my uncle, that's so strange...

My other best friend have a dog that is daschund, she alwys GROWL at black men... I don't know why, she had that dog since she was baby....

Our friend have a dog that is pitbull mixed(black lab), she's VERY sweety and is very cuddler... She only growl at a guy who is very tall and very muscular, they think that she used to be abuse by that kind of guy before and she did get lost around in her neighorhood and she kept her since no one claim about her.

I bet there's more dogs that have experience by abusing from people, they would end up growling or bark at people... Unless, like I mention about Daschund, that's so strange... Depends on their smell of sense and they would know who they excalty are and would growling at... They have their own reasons to do that... If stupid reason, then it's not good.

 

[Cane Corso]

Oh my gosh...speaking of dangerous dogs..here is what happened to us yesterday..

I took my son and daughter for my daughter's softball game and I went to sit on the bench, another mother came to sit next to me. She brought her 2 small children and her rotweiller. Luckily the dog was on a leash and the woman said "I am sorry..he doesnt like men." ?

This woman is simple stupid for bringing her dog to the park, I do not care if it was a rottweilier or not. It does not matter a lab or golden retriever can attack your husband like this too. She is stupid to bring a dog when she knew that dog does not like men. She is putting someone at the risk.

You must teach your son NEVER to approach ANY DOGS any where. Not small, medium, or large dogs because not all will like kids. My aunt had a yorkie terrier who hates ALL children and attacked a boy who lived next door from her. He had to get 20 stitiches on his arms. Not every dog that yourson meet is his friends. Teach your son to ask for a permission to pet the dog first before he ran up to the dog.

 

[shel90]

This woman is simple stupid for bringing her dog to the park, I do not care if it was a rottweilier or not. It does not matter a lab or golden retriever can attack your husband like this too. She is stupid to bring a dog when she knew that dog does not like men. She is putting someone at the risk.

You must teach your son NEVER to approach ANY DOGS any where. Not small, medium, or large dogs because not all will like kids. My aunt had a yorkie terrier who hates ALL children and attacked a boy who lived next door from her. He had to get 20 stitiches on his arms. Not every dog that yourson meet is his friends. Teach your son to ask for a permission to pet the dog first before he ran up to the dog.

Oh I plan on doing that..i kept telling him no no whenever he would dart for the dog..made it hard for me to watch the game..grrr. My son is only 17 months old. My daughter already knows not to approach dogs without my permission. My son, I just have to keep him at bay and tell him no no. Makes things harder on me cuz I want to WATCH my daughter play not worry about the stupid dog around my son. ugh!!!

 

[GalaxyAngel]

Let's see.. uh okay..

Whatever you disagree everyone.. that's fine as your own POV.. don't need point finger against their eyes again.. as long you can respect their have good reason fears.. So let's move on...

Needless... ALLL FRIGG'N DANGEROUS PERIOD.. no disagreement.. rest of your case
Do need say it oh tha.. dog is very dumb and friendly... I don't care what kind of your dog..
whatever you like call my dog is dangerous.. that's fine as long you don't need near my dog then.. Keep distance within 100 meters.. simple no complain.. it's solved!

 

[Foxrac]

I got problem with pitbull in mid-90's and my mom did popped the ball then hit on their body but I understand about she want keep me to be safe. I did almost got in attack with pitbull when I was innocent, how is pathetic? I started dislike pitbull but I don't hate rottweiler, though.
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Ok, take a pop quiz i posted in there. Let's see if you are picking out the right pitbull. Come back with an honest answer. Maybe a good chance that it was not a pitbull.

Cane Corso...

No, You are wrong!!! It was from pitbull, also I know about in last 10 years ago.

It's same as like other pitbulls on pictures then quit to think that 100% of pitbulls are innocent.

You aren't my momma or whatever...

 

[GalaxyAngel]

Cane Corso...

No, You are wrong!!! It was from pitbull, also I know about in last 10 years ago.

It's same as like other pitbulls on pictures then quit to think that 100% of pitbulls are innocent.

You aren't my momma or whatever...

you're wasting time.... If you continue blabbing complain.. what i've said recommend is... no need point finger their eyes.. to make them shudd'up.. as long everyone are animals DANGEROUS peroid.. no complain..
rest of case..

Debate making you feel fool and wasting time..

I'm tell you ya..

 

[Foxrac]

I totally disagree. It is not the breed that is dangerous, it is the owners who are uneducated how to handle these breeds. It is what make them dangerous to have these dogs. I have a rare breed from Italy called cane corso and it looks like a gaint pitbull who is on steriod. My dog is not dangerous and he has CGC, TDI, TT, and SchH I. Do you know what these titiles are? Don't your dog has one? I have met labs, golden, and other breeds who did not pass these titles.

When I hear people tell someone that pibtulls, dobermans, and rottweilers are dangerous, they are simple ignorant and uneducated. Don't make yourself look like a fool like them.

Are you high? You have NO respect in my opinion, like other people does.

I have admit that pitbull is #1 most dangerous dogs in USA, that right for my opinion.

Now, you are just ignorant... whatever...

 

[Foxrac]

Yes it does, in my state of Ohio, Pit bulls, Rottweilers, German Shepherds, Akitas, Dobermans, and Chow Chows are required to be on leash at all times, and a pen with a top or in a fenced yard or by chaining, control the dog with a leash and a muzzle when in public, and purchase $100,000 liability insurance. If the pit bull, Rottweiler, German Shepherds, Akitas, Dobermans and Chow Chows killed or injury anyone, the dog will be killed and the owner is subject to felony charges.

Yup, I noticed that.

I had been done with research, also we have strict city law in my area, also pitbull is require to leashed or fenced in backyard to prevent people from dog attack.

 

[Foxrac]

Oh really, like you live in my state?

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Nah, she's from Arizona.

Now, she's just nothing to know about Ohio, though.

 

[Foxrac]

In Florida... it is illegal to own pitbulls.. if caught.. the owners will be fined heavily and put pitbulls to sleep...

Not really, it does banned in several cities.

Just like over USA, it does banned in Denver, some part of NYC and other seveal cities but Chicago and NYC (except for Harlem, Queens and Bronx are already banned) are considering to banned in over citywide, also it does banned in several neighborhood in Chicago right now.
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It does banned in UK, that's nationwide.

 

[Foxrac]

Hi, this is for everyone to read:
I would like to point out some things about dogs of every breed. I am not very comfortable whenever I see a big dog. It is because I am in a wheelchair. I am sure that any of you would disagree because a lot of disabled people have big dogs trained as a guidance dog. I would STILL feel uncomfortable. Pitbulls for example, they might need special kind of training to behave properly. Oftentimes, trained or nontrained pitbulls like us humans can throw a short fuse for [strong]NO[/strong] reason; they get real aggressive and go on a rampage to look for something to "destroy". I read the newspaper daily I'd often see stories of a pitbull or pitbulls mauling people somewhere outside of the neighborhood. Especially in my hometown in California where I live, there was a young little girl, she got mauled badly by a pitbull. She was bitten on her cheek. She was required to have many stitches on her face because of the size of a pitbull's mouth so huge. A pitbull's jaw is the most powerful weapon which can severely harm or kill. As of recently, state of California will prohibit to be pitbull owners or pitbull owners from owning a pitbull. It is not definite yet but will be soon.

Of course, pitbulls have social issues to deal with they demand to get so much attention. People view pitbulls as a bad image of being a bad and dangerous dog among other breeds.

My Two Cents,
LeezaC

Ouch, I understand about your feeling.

I would happy for you if it does banned in CA but Vodka will going to be unhappy about it.

 

[GalaxyAngel]

Hey Pacman..

Really wasting your time..
no need debate them..

Likely EVERY DOGS ARE DANGEROUS period rest of case because still counts..

I do understand you have fear one kind of dog.. but other people thinks you're losing marble mind.. Not worth to debate w/them.. some of people aren't understand.. their choice their own problem.. not you
understand
no need debate w/them who have dangerous dog!

let them go.. useless..
I'm tell you ya..

 

[nozobo]

Not really, it does banned in several cities.

Just like over USA, it does banned in Denver...

That's right, there was many occurrence happening from time to time so it has to stop in Denver. I dont blame people around here but it's the owner's responsiblity...

 

[Theseus]

Are you high? You have NO respect in my opinion, like other people does.

I have admit that pitbull is #1 most dangerous dogs in USA, that right for my opinion.

Now, you are just ignorant... whatever...

I noticed you posting this to Cane Corso, and no she's not being ignorant.

It is in the training and treatment of dogs that usually defines the way they will treat people. If a dog was bullied by kids while it was a puppy, it will probably grow a fear or dislike for kids.

The stature (physical appearance) of Rotweillers makes them dogs that owners like to train for guard dogs, due to their muscular appearance. Their appearance attracts aggressive owners who like to use them for such purposes, and is it any wonder that they can be really aggressive dogs?

Sometimes, memories from previous generations are passed on to offspring. If a dog had parents that were trained to be cattle dogs, that dog will unconsciously exhibit cattle dog behavior even without ever being trained or ever seeing such behavior. I have personally seen such cases many times.

Is it the breed itself that makes the dog more likely to be aggressive, or its programming from previous generations plus the attitude of the dogs' owners?

In other words, is it really the dog's fault if it exhibits such behavior, or is it the owner's fault?

Thinking of the pitbull as the #1 most dangerous dog in the USA is an example of a belief that may be based on misconceptions about the dog itself. You should be blaming the owner's behavior towards the dog instead of the dog itself, because the owner's behavior may be what caused the dog to become an aggressive breed.

Alex already pointed out it was the owner's attitude towards the dog that he believes to be the main problem.

What is so hard to understand about this?

Cane Corso is not being ignorant...she is just pointing out why it's not correct to simply call a dog a dangerous breed, but to understand first why the dog may be perceived as such. It is not necessarily the dog's fault, and a generalization such as calling the dog a dangerous breed is most likely the result of a prejudice against the dog. Avoid prejudices at all cost.

Bringing up that the dog is a dangerous breed without understanding why it behaves as it does, but to simply say it bites and attacks, is to imply that it's the dog's fault to begin with.

In this respect, Cane Corso is only protecting the dog and trying to help you understand it's not the dog's fault and not to mislead other people about this.

 

[Cane Corso]

Cane Corso...

No, You are wrong!!! It was from pitbull, also I know about in last 10 years ago.

It's same as like other pitbulls on pictures then quit to think that 100% of pitbulls are innocent.

You aren't my momma or whatever...

Huh it was dork for you to tell me that I am not your mommy. I don't want to be your mother because you seem to have a nasty personality and a bit too judgemental. If you are truly myson, it sounds like I had you when I was a baby or was not even born yet. I am sure I am too young to be your mom. Completely foolish dude.

There is ONLY one dog who is truly a pitbull in the picture so I bet you pick out the wrong one many times. I bet you think you are that ingelligent when it comes to identify a breed. Since you got kinda pissy, you gave me a nice nasty comment that I wasn't your mom. lt shows that you could not identify the correct picture so you had to get that nasty. Well, this is an example of breed ignorant.

 

[Cane Corso]

Oh I plan on doing that..i kept telling him no no whenever he would dart for the dog..made it hard for me to watch the game..grrr. My son is only 17 months old. My daughter already knows not to approach dogs without my permission. My son, I just have to keep him at bay and tell him no no. Makes things harder on me cuz I want to WATCH my daughter play not worry about the stupid dog around my son. ugh!!!

I am glad that you do realize how important to tell your kids not to run up to any dogs. I know that young kids from the age 2 to 6 are not easy to handle. Good lucky trying to keep them away from all dogs. I hope most dogs you will meet are nice ones.

 

[Angel]

Most Dangerous Dog: Pit Bull Bans Raise Questions

CBS) CHICAGO Mention a pit bull these days, and many people will react with fear. The breed brings to mind a number of recent attacks on humans and some lawmakers are even calling for a pit bull ban.

But are they the most dangerous dog?

CBS 2's Dana Kozlov has the good, the bad and the ugly side of this controversial canine.

Wes Alicea breeds pit bulls. Apocalypse is one of his dogs, and Alicea insists his pit bulls would never hurt anyone.

"They are loving, loyal, friendly," he said.

But in the last two weeks alone, pit bulls have been responsible for three attacks on humans, including the vicious mauling of six people in Cary. Brooks Foley displays the tears he suffered at the jaws of those dogs. His 10-year-old son was left in critical condition.

“And they were going to kill me, that's were they were going to do,” Foley said.

So what, if anything, about this breed makes them so dangerous?

“Genetically, these dogs can be, and have the ability to be, an aggressive animal," said Dr. Sheldon Rubin, chief of staff at Blum Animal Hospital.

In fact, the original purpose of the breed was to fight other dogs. Today's pit bull is actually a mix of the American bulldog with the Staffordshire terrier, making it very muscular and powerful. The result?

"As a breed that has been bred over the generations to be dog aggressive, they don't bite another dog just to show them superiority. They will bite until that other dog is down," Rubin said.

And when they bite a human Dr. Rubin says it will likely use its strong jaw to clamp down and not let go.

Animal activists say many pit bulls today are being raised as fighters for sport or weapons by gang bangers. But PAWS Chicago founder and chairman Paula Fasseas insists pit bulls are not vicious by nature.

"It's because of the people that are the guardians of them. The owners. They are totally irresponsible and they are not socializing them," Fasseas said.

Dr. Rubin and Wes Aliceas echo that sentiment, and stress the importance of strict training and socialization of pit bulls at a young age. Spaying or neutering is also essential.

"There has never been a known fatality, human fatality, by a dog that was fixed," Fasseas said.

Ultimately, they believe any dog can be dangerous -- if not deadly -- and any pit bull can be a good pet if raised properly.

"There are dogs for every type of person. If you are a humble person, not dominant enough, then you don't want a pit bull," Aliceas said.

Most animal professionals we spoke with are against any type of ban on pit bulls or any breed. But that is an ongoing debate right now.

Experts also stress the importance of researching a dog before adopting it. You can call your local shelter or vet for help in behavior testing a dog for any aggressive tendencies.

Viewers can access the American Veterinary Medical Association's "Community Approach to Dog Bite Prevention" at American Veterinary Medical Association. It discusses the problems with breed specific legislation and what prompts dogs to bite.

The American Veterinary Society of Animal Behaviorists also has a web site with members listed. It is avsab.us. But obviously a behavior problem is something that requires immediate attention.

The American College of Veterinary Behaviorist have a website at www.dacvb.org. Their members are Board Certified by the American College of Veterinary Behaviorists.

Certified Behaviorist recommended by PAWS
Valerie J. Chalcraft, Ph.D.
Applied Animal Behavior
731 W. 18th Street, #11
Chicago, IL 60616
phone: 312-391-5537
email: info@appliedanimalbehavior.com
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It's true that any dogs can be dangerous and yet other dogs don't have strong jaw to clamp down and not let go like pit bulls do and that may makes pitbull the most dangerous one....that's explain why many people are fear of pit bulls more than any other breeds, and people are not only trying to pin point the blame on pitbuls but knowing that there are increase of numbers of pitbull attacks on humans and other pets more than any other breeds, seem that the pet owners are adopting pitbulls for the wrong reason, they should researching more on pitbulls before adopting them..

I know I have made a promise not to bring up about pitbull but then again I can't sit here and let people thinks that every dogs out there can clamp down a human or a pet and not let go....I personally think that pet owners need to think twice about adopting dogs if they are truly serious of taken care of them, cause it not fair to have innocent children or pets being attacked or killed just cause some owners did not keep their dogs uncontrol...lastly but not at least, a dangerous breed needs the type of owner who will respondsibly raise the dog in a good environment....

 

[Cane Corso]

Are you high? You have NO respect in my opinion, like other people does.

I have admit that pitbull is #1 most dangerous dogs in USA, that right for my opinion.

Now, you are just ignorant... whatever...

Oh really, I think it reflects on you more than me since you have a poor understanding about what dogs are all about. You only focus on what kind it was, rather than the personality of the dog or how the owner disciplines the dog properly. I feel sorry for you because you can not see that for yourself. I know you can not open your mind to see the difference so you only can see one color. If a black man raped your wife, it sounds like you would think that all black men are evil. Just like how you see a pit-bull because you had one bad case with it. Whatever anything bad happened to you, it scarred your mind forever and you can not get over that.

I do not think you understand when I tried to explain about the having a dog that a person can control and cannot control. This makes the biggest difference in handling a dominant/ powerful breed. When a person can control the dog 100%, there is NO reason to get rid of that dog whether if it's a rottweilier or pit-bull. If a thief pointed a gun at you, a trained pit-bull came to you rescue. How will you view that? Maybe it does not happen, but there are pit bulls who are drug detectors that work for the police department. They did their jobs marvelous well. When a BSL law passed, unfortunately these police dogs will have to dispose. I tell you, many owners who have these dogs do not take the time to train properly their dogs or understand how to replace things like their natural protectiveness or habit.

Example, Lab was bred to hunt ducks and small animals so hunters had to teach the lab not to eat them. The hunters do not want the dog to maul the duck when it holds in the mouth. They only want the dog to retrieve the dead duck. One thing you have FAILED to understand this is, that these labs WILL eat the dead duck with out having the proper training just like an aggressive dog lacks a proper socialization and training. Owners who failed to realize that these dogs can get aggressive, they just stand there and do nothing. All they had to say was sorry my doggie bite you and he is not aggressive. Again, this is WRONG for the owner to bring out the aggressvie or nervous dog. Those labs were not born to be retriever, that skill has been exchanged from "Prey" to "Retriever." Since hunters know that they can not stop the lab's "prey" drive, they exchanged that to retriever. It works well, but takes hours to train labs not to eat ducks They start with a stuffed duck, before they try it on the real duck (Dead). Hunters already expect that their labs’ first two attempts will fail because they are more likely to eat the dead duck.

I have a cane corso. I can control him very well and he heels to me prefect good. When I walk beside him in heel position, he has to look up to my face. He does not look anywhere, but me only. He focuses on me only and my commands. He accepts and rejects anyone when I tell him to. He is NEVER allowed to act aggressive to ANYONE who does not show any threats, not even a person who walks funny, make funny weird noises, or dress in weird outfit with an evil mask. Yes he sounds like a robot that is waiting for my commands, but it makes me control him VERY easy. It means kids can run up to him and I know he would not harm them.

Heel position I talked about above here in the post
YouTube - Me doing obedience with Jake

French Ring
YouTube - PADOK FRENCH RING TRAINING 2006
YouTube - french ring

 

[Cane Corso]

Not really, it does banned in several cities.

Just like over USA, it does banned in Denver, some part of NYC and other seveal cities but Chicago and NYC (except for Harlem, Queens and Bronx are already banned) are considering to banned in over citywide, also it does banned in several neighborhood in Chicago right now.
Pit Bull - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It does banned in UK, that's nationwide.

yeah, i already know that. There is no state in the US has been banned yet so only small part of the cities and county.