Declaration of Occupy Wall Street

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kokonut said:
And that's fine. No need for "paying" members in their attempt to impart a bit of guilt or look down with their noses in the air towards those who have not "paid."
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But, you do the same thing when discussing taxes...
 
naisho said:
Cool, thanks for answering. Now that you had paid, I see you may have saw it as a need to pay for something. I had no intent of discussing about the intent of any secondary party that the money is going to. (Not bringing the hospital into the discussion)

Though how is AllDeaf classified as a service for you? Maybe your definition might be something else, but from around where I am accustomed to, a service conducted as an action provided for another party else where the recipient is expected to return the favor by compensating them with something, usually in the form of money. I think this is the general legal term if basing an action as a service.

AllDeaf never demands anyone nor its members for money in the first place - it continues to remain completely free and donations are gladly accepted to keep the fees minimal. The fees have never been mandatory, they are optional.
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Exactly, AD does however offer a premium service. Like local rec centers that are free to residents but still charge for classes,towel service and locker rentals. Nothing wrong with that.
 
TXgolfer said:
Exactly, AD does however offer a premium service. Like local rec centers that are free to residents but still charge for classes,towel service and locker rentals. Nothing wrong with that.
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There is nothing of value in the premium member service that the existing non-donors cannot benefit from...
We barely get anything for it to be considered of value... :Ohno:
 
saywhatkid said:
Correct. Some people have been members for many years without donating. I find it a cause I believe in. If this site was gone, what fills the niche? Any other forum is geared toward something; be it sports, politics, finance, etc. Not a lot of deaf-oriented forums to choose from, especially with the membership size we have here. I feel fortunate to have this spot.
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It's a great website. I wouldn't call it a cause. Unless I am mistaken AD is still a for profit business. Granted a for profit business that benefits a small community greatly, but still a business.

If, AD is a non-profit then of course I change my opinion here, but I haven't heard that it was. I could be wrong.

I think AD is a great website that serves a great purpose, but it doesn't fit my definitions of cause or donations.
 
naisho said:
There is nothing of value in the premium member service that the existing non-donors cannot benefit from...
We barely get anything for it to be considered of value... :Ohno:
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Alex mentioned new areas that would be opened in the future for premium members.
 
TXgolfer said:
Exactly, AD does however offer a premium service. Like local rec centers that are free to residents but still charge for classes,towel service and locker rentals. Nothing wrong with that.
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Local Rec Center does not run free. Is it not fair for others to not chip in at the expense of others for their amusement?

that's being cheap as described by SWK. We chipped in to keep AD free for all and there are a few frequent ADers who do not chip in and contributed nothing but with ill intention. When I say contribute, it doesn't have to be in monetary sense. I'm also referring to "contributing to community".

AD is a community to me because a lot of us know each other in person. We all congregate together in here and exchange stories. I believe it would behooves you (general you) as freeloaders to be respective and contributive to those who helped to make AD free for you.

nice of you to see defending kokonut but this post just strikes me as smugly and arrogant. and cheap too.
kokonut said:
:dunno: Like I said, I gave mine already to a worthy organization, an efficient use of my money.
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naisho said:
There is nothing of value in the premium member service that the existing non-donors cannot benefit from...
We barely get anything for it to be considered of value... :Ohno:
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But we get GIFs and bigger inboxes. :lol:
 
Someone's doing the work of the towel collecting, bleaching, washing, servicing the lockers too.. It's not free for the REC center, but it is free for the members. You could leave a tip in the tip box for that situation.
 
TXgolfer said:
It's a great website. I wouldn't call it a cause. Unless I am mistaken AD is still a for profit business. Granted a for profit business that benefits a small community greatly, but still a business.

If, AD is a non-profit then of course I change my opinion here, but I haven't heard that it was. I could be wrong.

I think AD is a great website that serves a great purpose, but it doesn't fit my definitions of cause or donations.
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think outside the box.

You are not required to pay for it. You are free to contribute at any amount to AD. Is that not called "donation"?
 
TXgolfer said:
It's a great website. I wouldn't call it a cause. Unless I am mistaken AD is still a for profit business. Granted a for profit business that benefits a small community greatly, but still a business.

If, AD is a non-profit then of course I change my opinion here, but I haven't heard that it was. I could be wrong.

I think AD is a great website that serves a great purpose, but it doesn't fit my definitions of cause or donations.
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I believe I asked you a question. I'll ask again.


Why did you decide to donate just recently?
 
Jiro said:
Local Rec Center does not run free. Is it not fair for others to not chip in at the expense of others for their amusement?

that's being cheap as described by SWK. We chipped in to keep AD free for all and there are a few frequent ADers who do not chip in and contributed nothing but with ill intention. When I say contribute, it doesn't have to be in monetary sense. I'm also referring to "contributing to community".

AD is a community to me because a lot of us know each other in person. We all congregate together in here and exchange stories. I believe it would behooves you (general you) as freeloaders to be respective and contributive to those who helped to make AD free for you.

nice of you to see defending kokonut but this post just strikes me as smugly and arrogant. and cheap too.
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I don't think you understood what I said....
 
TheWriteAlex said:
I believe I asked you a question. I'll ask again.


Why did you decide to donate just recently?
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I think he was jealous of seeing our names bolded, and that luscious orange bar under it. :P

Actually, I thought he had already donated before. I could have sworn he had the VIP thingy.
 
TheWriteAlex said:
I believe I asked you a question. I'll ask again.


Why did you decide to donate just recently?
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If you asked I didn't see it.

The answer, I finally saw what the membership was for..... I PMed some members asking about this membership before it was ever discussed in this thread. They are welcome to verify this if they wish.
 
saywhatkid said:
I think he was jealous of seeing our names bolded, and that luscious orange bar under it. :P

Actually, I thought he had already donated before. I could have sworn he had the VIP thingy.
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Nah, TWA is correct, I just joined.
 
TXgolfer said:
If you asked I didn't see it.

The answer, I finally saw what the membership was for..... I PMed some members asking about this membership before it was ever discussed in this thread. They are welcome to verify this if they wish.
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that's not what TWA asked.

After you saw what the membership was for..... what made you decide to donate to AD?
 
TXgolfer said:
If you asked I didn't see it.

The answer, I finally saw what the membership was for..... I PMed some members asking about this membership before it was ever discussed in this thread. They are welcome to verify this if they wish.
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Okay, gotcha. But it was this discussion first started by SWK that prompted you to look in to the matter? Or was it just a coincidence?
 
Jiro said:
that's not what TWA asked.

After you saw what the membership was for..... what made you decide to donate to AD?
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Well, it was sort of what I asked. heh . . .
 
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