Deaf with cochlear implants....

Cochlear hurts our deaf culture. :pissed:
 
sr171soars said:
I will second this statement. This is exactly what I have been experiencing as well. What is hearing by any other name? All the stuff being said about how it really sounds like is really a crock! How would anybody without a CI know? Arguments like these have no bearing on Neecy's or mine life as we are living our lives in a satisfying way...with a viable means to make the most of it.
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So you're saying that how can people understand what the sounds are really like when they haven't tried or wear a cochlear implants ? I don't think it should matter whether some of us haven't experiences what it may sounds like once we're implanted with CI but the main point of this thread is how some hearing people states once their children are implanted with CI is no longer deaf or hard of hearing, but hearing and that's not true at all, no matter how much sounds they're able to hear whether it may be from the use of cochlear implants or hearing aids, they're still considered deaf or hard of hearing...
 
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TrippLA said:
Cochlear hurts our deaf culture. :pissed:
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I am thinking this is off topic. TrippLA, please start a thread because I would be very interested in more than the one-liner you posted here. Please to explain how the CI hurts the deaf culture? I am a hearing individual and I would like to understand this further. I am an open minded person and am interested in all sides of the issue. Can you start a thread and elaborate a bit on your comment. Maybe a good name for the thread is "Why CI's hurt the deaf culture" Just a suggestion.

Thank you
 
Cloggy said:
And that's what saddens me. People could learn so much here, but choose to ignore.
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What saddness me is when some CI users tried to define " hearing " as a hearing person, when most of us can hear from either cochlear implants or hearing aids, but it doesn't mean we're hearing and no longer deaf or hard of hearing....


And they choose to ignore the real fact what cochlear implants and hearing aids can do to many of us...
 
rockdrummer said:
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I am thinking this is off topic. TrippLA, please start a thread because I would be very interested in more than the one-liner you posted here. Please to explain how the CI hurts the deaf culture? I am a hearing individual and I would like to understand this further. I am an open minded person and am interested in all sides of the issue. Can you start a thread and elaborate a bit on your comment. Maybe a good name for the thread is "Why CI's hurt the deaf culture" Just a suggestion.

Thank you
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I accept all opinions rather it's alit off topic or not. It's not your place to hog my thread and decide when something is off-topic. Since when do anyone ever stick with the point of the topic? Nobody barely does anyways. :)

Go ahead TrippLA, Please continue. ;)
 
CI'ers are still labeled as DEAF/HOH period.

I am tired of some hearing people and some CI'ers REPEATEDLY rubbing in deaf people's faces about how wonderful it is to hear.
 
CutePommie said:
I want to say thank you to Cheri,

I have a deaf son who is 13 years old now , when he was 13 months old the ENT specialists said that my son are on the borderline to have the C.I . and I said to the ENT specialists No thanks because I want my son to make his own decision when he get older. So he can hear good with hearing aids, and recently I talked to my deaf son about this ENT that said he is on the borderline for get the C.I . Know what his response to me ... * THANKS GOD that you didn't get me this C.I*. And said this hearing aids is good enough for him to use and can hear but not clearly . but does can hear when his name being calling by me or families even friends too ... etc..... so on ..... :scatter:

One of my decesed service user at work . he had the C.I user for 20 years . I asked him can he hear clearly with this C.I he said no just make funny background noises he can't not to catch it and said too many noises he can not to make it out what it is and he said it all waste of time, so he sometime had to used it for reason when he is alone at home so he said can sometime to picked up any noises....

So Cloggy please try to accept it what your daughter have .. it is nothing to be shame of. I always say that I am DEAF when people try talk to me like in the food stores . E.G:- when I was just check or look at the foods from the shelves .. then it turned around realised that the person been tried talk to me ... and I told this person sorry I am Deaf . then this person said Oh I am sorry .. then I used lipreading to this person Can I help ? , this person started talked slowly asked me how much is this please because I had left my reading glasses at home. then I check and used my finger to writing the amount of this item. and this person thank me very much for it .... I just felt so proud what I did ... that showing the hearing world that the Deaf People can do it of any help .. yet knowing some hearing people often walk away after I said that I am Deaf. I just went 'huh' oh well .. ( sniff my armpits or check see I have got 2 heads on my shoulders LOL )

But it would be the different story if any person who were born hearing then became deaf in earlier or later life , when they get the C.I they will know what it like to be hearing ... because they can to remember what the noises or music like ... that fine and but for me no thanks as I was born deaf SO BE IT!

That is all i could say ... :)
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Just some remarks:
You cannot compare a deaf child within a deaf family/culture with a deaf child within a hearing family/culture.
When HA's work for someone there's no ground for CI.
You cannot compare the CI of 20 years ago with one from now.... are you typing on a 20-year old computer?
 
^Angel^ said:
.............And they choose to ignore the real fact what cochlear implants and hearing aids can do to many of us...
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which is...
 
ButterflyGirl said:
CI'ers are still labeled as DEAF/HOH period.

I am tired of some hearing people and some CI'ers REPEATEDLY rubbing in deaf people's faces about how wonderful it is to hear.
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Perhaps it is because some deaf people rubbing in hearing people's faces about how wonderful it is to be deaf.
 
Cloggy said:
Perhaps it is because some deaf people rubbing in hearing people's faces about how wonderful it is to be deaf.
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That is after some people rub in their faces about how wonderful it is to hear.
 
Cloggy said:
Perhaps it is because some deaf people rubbing in hearing people's faces about how wonderful it is to be deaf.
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Is that what you think? I think you misunderstood them, They meant was they are happy for who they are as a person they became since the time they became deaf. It's more like accepting themselves instead of trying to be better than anyone else.
 
Cheri said:
Is that what you think? I think you misunderstood them, They meant was they are happy for who they are as a person they became since the time they became deaf. It's more like accepting themselves instead of trying to be better than anyone else.
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ButterflyGirl said:
CI'ers are still labeled as DEAF/HOH period.

I am tired of some hearing people and some CI'ers REPEATEDLY rubbing in deaf people's faces about how wonderful it is to hear.
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This is what I hear lately from some CI users " I can hear so much more but can you? with a smile on their face " I feel like I'm being compared on how much I could actually hear, and they made it sounds like they're alot better than I am.... :dunno:
 
ButterflyGirl said:
CI'ers are still labeled as DEAF/HOH period.
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I think that in the future, CI will be an additional category. Technique is improving so fast that the results diverge from HA-results very fast.

ButterflyGirl said:
I am tired of some hearing people and some CI'ers REPEATEDLY rubbing in deaf people's faces about how wonderful it is to hear.
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What are you afraid of...?
 
Cloggy said:
Perhaps it is because some deaf people rubbing in hearing people's faces about how wonderful it is to be deaf.
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Acutally it more of saying they are happy with their own deafness and they don't need anything to help them hear, and I respect that as I respect those who have CI or hearing aids...
 
TrippLA said:
Cochlear hurts our deaf culture. :pissed:
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I got to say I agree with TrippLA.

I had a friend, who was implanted with a CI a few years ago, dump all her deaf friends and the deaf world. She even got mad at me when I mentioned to a sales lady that we were deaf. All I did was to let her know that we were deaf after she came up to us asking us if she could help us and she couldn't understand what my friend was saying. What was wrong with me letting her know that we were deaf? GEEZ!!!!

Also another friend who had her toddler son implanted with a CI decide not to expose her son to the deaf culture. One day I ran into them at a store and I said hello. The boy, who was now around 11 years old, looked at me like I was some kind of a freak and pulled his mother down to whisper something in her ear. The mother then looked at me and gave out a fake smile. She said it was nothing about me that he said in her ear. I was like yeah right :roll:
 
^Angel^ said:
Acutally it more of saying they are happy with their own deafness and they don't need anything to help them hear, and I respect that as I respect those who have CI or hearing aids...
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I agree. As long as "Rejecting Hearing" is not part of being deaf. I have a feeling that this sometimes is the case.
 
Cloggy said:
Just some remarks:
You cannot compare a deaf child within a deaf family/culture with a deaf child within a hearing family/culture.
When HA's work for someone there's no ground for CI.
You cannot compare the CI of 20 years ago with one from now.... are you typing on a 20-year old computer?
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Oh boy ....you think YOU KNOW EVERYTHING BETTER THAN US .... OH FOR GOD'S SAKE GET A LIFE !!!! YOU MAKE ME SO ANGRY :pissed: ... I CAN NOT TO BELIEVE THIS PERSON WHO IS YOU !!!! I FEEL SORRY FOR YOUR DAUGHTER !!


Cheri I am sorry for this ..
 
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