Deaf vs. Hearing Impaired
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It really doesnt matter. I would like to call myself deaf. Not the capital "D". I go in both worlds of deaf and hearing. It's been like that my entire life. Back then the term "hearing impaired" bother me quite so but today I have come to deal with it for some people are ignorant about the meaning behind that term and "Deaf". Truth be told, yes hearing impaired is a medical condition diagnosed by doctors but I have a culture. Sometimes I see myself "Deaf". Some day I'm like hard of hearing or just simply deaf depending on the situation I am in and the people I am around.
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I would prefer to be labeled "hearing". 
Sometimes I call myself deaf-impaired as a joke.
Sometimes I call myself deaf-impaired as a joke.
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deaf (not Deaf) because I interact with deaf and hearing people so, I have two worlds (deaf and hearing worlds).
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The words "hearing impaired" come from the fact that many hearing people think "deaf" is an insult. Oddly, most hearing people think that is more polite than "deaf".Throwstones said:
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Oops...forgot that one. :Oops: I'll fix it:pek1 said:To us, you are a "hearie," which means that you're a hearing person. But, it is a cardinal sin to try and pass for a deaf or hoh person.
I prefer being labeled "hearing" or a "hearie".
I wouldn't lie about being deaf to a deaf person--I always introduce myself as being hearing but knowing ASL. Lots of hearies think I'm deaf, though, and say lots of rude things (like "dumb deaf idiot using that baby language...") when I'm signing. I let those idiots know I'm hearing by yelling at them "I HEARD THAT!!!
" Then they run away fast.... 
nah..gnulinuxman said:
the word "hearing impaired" means those deaf and hard of hearing's hearing are impaired "hearing are impaired" drop "are" then it is "hearing impaired"
now use common sense and courtesy... most hearing does not know their actual hearing loss so they resort to this word "hearing impaired" as to avoid mistake of labeling a hoh as deaf or latened deaf as hoh.
now see this dialogue;
person 1: Hi are you hearing-impaired?
person 2: Yes, I am deaf and I was born deaf that way.
person 2: ah, you are deaf, OK! Nice meeting you!
person 1 and 2: *shake hands*
instead of
person 1: hi are you hearing-impaired?
person 2: *shocked and turn into anger then flipping bird* frak you! don't call me hearing-imapired! I am DEAF!
person 1: *frightened and puzzled looks* whoa! okay! calm down! I don't know your type of hearing loss! bye! *walk off*
well? take your pick?
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Boult, this one is more common around here:
Though it is normally more like this:
But I myself am hearing, a hearie, or deaf-impaired.
Boult said:
Though it is normally more like this:
But I myself am hearing, a hearie, or deaf-impaired.
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Impaired means less then perfect. It doesn't mean broken as some of you've mentioned earlier. I looked up dictionary on website. It shown:
Impaired: being in a less than perfect or whole condition: as a : handicapped or functionally defective -- often used in combination <hearing-impaired> b : intoxicated by alcohol or narcotics <driving while impaired>
Hard of Hearing: of or relating to a defective but functional sense of hearing
Deaf: 1 : lacking or deficient in the sense of hearing
2 : unwilling to hear or listen : not to be persuaded <was overwrought and deaf to reason>
Stone-Deaf: totally deaf
Deaf-Mute: often offensive : a deaf person who cannot speak
I remember a friend of mine years ago said she has to say she's deaf but act like hard of hearing because she can speak very well but can not hear a sound at all without hearing aids.
In the past when I said I'm hard of hearing, someone asked me how come I didn't understand what was going on on TV (without CC at that time). The other time, when I said I'm deaf, someone said but I can hear some sounds and understood some songs when I heard it. This is very confusing for hearing people so I must say I'm hearing impaired. Period.
One thing that was bothering me in the past when I said I'm deaf, they said "but you can speak very well". Well I had to say I don't have speech impaired!!!
Impaired: being in a less than perfect or whole condition: as a : handicapped or functionally defective -- often used in combination <hearing-impaired> b : intoxicated by alcohol or narcotics <driving while impaired>
Hard of Hearing: of or relating to a defective but functional sense of hearing
Deaf: 1 : lacking or deficient in the sense of hearing
2 : unwilling to hear or listen : not to be persuaded <was overwrought and deaf to reason>
Stone-Deaf: totally deaf
Deaf-Mute: often offensive : a deaf person who cannot speak
I remember a friend of mine years ago said she has to say she's deaf but act like hard of hearing because she can speak very well but can not hear a sound at all without hearing aids.
In the past when I said I'm hard of hearing, someone asked me how come I didn't understand what was going on on TV (without CC at that time). The other time, when I said I'm deaf, someone said but I can hear some sounds and understood some songs when I heard it. This is very confusing for hearing people so I must say I'm hearing impaired. Period.
One thing that was bothering me in the past when I said I'm deaf, they said "but you can speak very well". Well I had to say I don't have speech impaired!!!
Thats a real bull. Hearing impaired relates the medical term that covers up the truth of the deafness. It s more confusion which deafness levels you are in. I dont appreciate that someone called me Hearing Impaired if you mind. I prefer to be called Deaf. It s real rude for someone thinks that my ears are broken.
Also I noticed latened deaf people want to cover themselves that they were a former hearing.. Is that fair?? I think not!
I born deaf not defective. Also I wasnt unwilling to hear or listen that is wrong defination term to be use. I cannot help it for being deaf and you cannot expect me to hear with devices that doesnt help you to hear everything if you mind. So therefore I am Deaf as always. You cannot expect every deaf children to hear what you are saying without ASL. PERIOD. It s very strainful to read people s different lip movements for all of us deafies. Thats when people are having the barrier of communication between Deaf and Hearing. So be it!
Deaf means you cannot hear every incomprehension words that hearing people can.
Right now, I m Stoned Deaf without devices that I am thankful for it. It s so much less stress and headaches from the noise pollution that relates the sound. It s not always to have the greatest sound in your ears all the time without having the device on. Jeez!
Sweetmnd
Also I noticed latened deaf people want to cover themselves that they were a former hearing.. Is that fair?? I think not!
I born deaf not defective. Also I wasnt unwilling to hear or listen that is wrong defination term to be use. I cannot help it for being deaf and you cannot expect me to hear with devices that doesnt help you to hear everything if you mind. So therefore I am Deaf as always. You cannot expect every deaf children to hear what you are saying without ASL. PERIOD. It s very strainful to read people s different lip movements for all of us deafies. Thats when people are having the barrier of communication between Deaf and Hearing. So be it!
Deaf means you cannot hear every incomprehension words that hearing people can.
Right now, I m Stoned Deaf without devices that I am thankful for it. It s so much less stress and headaches from the noise pollution that relates the sound. It s not always to have the greatest sound in your ears all the time without having the device on. Jeez!
Sweetmnd
Look up more than one source...
From The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48:
hearing-impaired \hearing-impaired\ adj.
having a hearing impairment making hearing difficult; having
a defective but functioning sense of hearing.
Syn: hard-of-hearing.
[WordNet 1.5 +PJC]
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From WordNet (r) 2.0:
hearing-impaired
adj : having a hearing loss [syn: hard-of-hearing]
more can be found for this word "hearing-impaired"
http://www.answers.com/hearing-impaired#Dictionary
and this from Apple's Dictionary software that use the source from "New Oxford American Dictionary" and "Oxford American Writers Thesaurus"
Dictionary
impaired |im?pe(?)rd|
adjective
having a disability of a specified kind : [in combination ] hearing-impaired children.
impair |im?pe(?)r|
verb [ trans. ]
weaken or damage (esp. a human faculty or function) : drug use that impairs job performance.
ORIGIN Middle English enpeire, from Old French empeirier, based on late Latin pejorare (from Latin pejor ‘worse’ ). The current spelling is due to association with words derived from Latin beginning with im-.
Thesaurus
impaired
adjective
1 visually impaired disabled, handicapped, incapacitated; euphemistic challenged, differently abled.
2 driving while impaired drunk, intoxicated, under the influence, inebriated; informal bombed, high, stoned, wasted, smashed, plastered, soused.
From The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48:
hearing-impaired \hearing-impaired\ adj.
having a hearing impairment making hearing difficult; having
a defective but functioning sense of hearing.
Syn: hard-of-hearing.
[WordNet 1.5 +PJC]
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From WordNet (r) 2.0:
hearing-impaired
adj : having a hearing loss [syn: hard-of-hearing]
more can be found for this word "hearing-impaired"
http://www.answers.com/hearing-impaired#Dictionary
and this from Apple's Dictionary software that use the source from "New Oxford American Dictionary" and "Oxford American Writers Thesaurus"
Dictionary
impaired |im?pe(?)rd|
adjective
having a disability of a specified kind : [in combination ] hearing-impaired children.
impair |im?pe(?)r|
verb [ trans. ]
weaken or damage (esp. a human faculty or function) : drug use that impairs job performance.
ORIGIN Middle English enpeire, from Old French empeirier, based on late Latin pejorare (from Latin pejor ‘worse’ ). The current spelling is due to association with words derived from Latin beginning with im-.
Thesaurus
impaired
adjective
1 visually impaired disabled, handicapped, incapacitated; euphemistic challenged, differently abled.
2 driving while impaired drunk, intoxicated, under the influence, inebriated; informal bombed, high, stoned, wasted, smashed, plastered, soused.
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Sweetmind said:Thats a real bull. Hearing impaired relates the medical term that covers up the truth of the deafness. It s more confusion which deafness levels you are in. I dont appreciate that someone called me Hearing Impaired if you mind. I prefer to be called Deaf. It s real rude for someone thinks that my ears are broken.
Also I noticed latened deaf people want to cover themselves that they were a former hearing.. Is that fair?? I think not!
I born deaf not defective. Also I wasnt unwilling to hear or listen that is wrong defination term to be use. I cannot help it for being deaf and you cannot expect me to hear with devices that doesnt help you to hear everything if you mind. So therefore I am Deaf as always. You cannot expect every deaf children to hear what you are saying without ASL. PERIOD. It s very strainful to read people s different lip movements for all of us deafies. Thats when people are having the barrier of communication between Deaf and Hearing. So be it!
Deaf means you cannot hear every incomprehension words that hearing people can.
Right now, I m Stoned Deaf without devices that I am thankful for it. It s so much less stress and headaches from the noise pollution that relates the sound. It s not always to have the greatest sound in your ears all the time without having the device on. Jeez!
Sweetmnd
First of all, a Rose is a Rose by any other name. You are missing one of five senses that are considered a part of the human experience. Thus the definition of hearing impaired is correct for you and for me as well as those who are former hearing folks. There ain't no two ways about it and doing a contortionist act to redefine yourself is disingenious at best. It is the same as the story where the kid yells out "Hey, the king has no clothes on!". In your case, you don't have even a fig on you. The medical profession is not covering up on deafness. They are describing very accurately the condition of somebody who does not hear as it is normally defined and universally understood. Anybody with a hint of intelligence can tell that deafness is not a normal condition. Which leads me to my next thought...
Secondly, life is never fair...lets get that straight and it matters not that you think it should be either. Sure, it is not fair that hearing people in general have no understanding about deafness and what it can be like. It is not fair that they sometimes are shocked at what the deaf can do. It goes on and on the list of things that the deaf can name as insults and offensiveness and uglyness when it comes from the hearing. The deaf is not immune to those things either lest they get high and mighty from a moral standpoint. I, myself, have been looked down by the deaf just because I can fit in the hearing world (talk about double standards but fortunately that is a small minority). By and large when the hearing are exposed to the deaf, they often understand somewhat better the issues of the deaf. There is where the two worlds begin to understand each other. Fighting a war that can never be won is not very productive. My maxim is "When in Rome, do as the Romans do" and that can take one quite far if one is able. If not, don't expend your energy getting mad at the hearing and their views as it won't do you any good. Life is far too short and too precious to waste it on stupidity like trying define terms...but be my guest if you are so inclined.
You are such a full of it.. I born natural deaf if you dont mind. I never was being hearing person that you couldnt handle it.
You are forcing me to accept that term of hearing impaired. SCOFFS! It s more of insulting my own deafness. I born natural deaf that you dont want to hear it.
YOu have a huge problem with the term of D E A F .
Well, I am D E A F DEAF D E A F DEAF D E A F. DEAF people are beautiful people to communicate with our hands that works so well while you dont know how to sign. What a pity! Deaf can do anything except hear. Whoo hoo!
Deaf is the term of our category that you couldnt deal with.. What a pity and bittered people couldnt stand to use the term of D E A F.!
Yah! DEAF PRIDE and DEAF SPIRIT that comes out very positive reinforcement that people need to face the reality and change their negative view of our deafness attitude. It hasnt bit changed much for years and years.. NO WONDER they are still not listening to us Deaf people who knows the truth more than Hearing professional. What kind of people are they trying to turn against Deaf children s will? ** shakin my head**
Have a wonderful day!
Sweetmind
You might just as well be bitter about accepting HEARING IMPAIRED. Why can't you accept that the deaf way is not supposed to be the way you describe it in your perfect fantasy for all deaf children? I have had my share of frustration, but I know ASL would not have solved the problem mind you. I am sorry you had such a bitter life and taking it out on others. Maybe it's time you grow up and see your real blessings in your current life rather than focusing on your bitter past. You are really missing a lot of things being so bitter and angry towards those that think differently. You do not speak for me as a hearing impaired/deaf person as well as a lot of people who are deaf just like you who disagree. You don't know any better about the right way to raise deaf children. Time to find your peace.
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Sweetmind said:You are such a full of it.. I born natural deaf if you dont mind. I never was being hearing person that you couldnt handle it.
You are forcing me to accept that term of hearing impaired. SCOFFS! It s more of insulting my own deafness. I born natural deaf that you dont want to hear it.
YOu have a huge problem with the term of D E A F .
Well, I am D E A F DEAF D E A F DEAF D E A F. DEAF people are beautiful people to communicate with our hands that works so well while you dont know how to sign. What a pity! Deaf can do anything except hear. Whoo hoo!
Deaf is the term of our category that you couldnt deal with.. What a pity and bittered people couldnt stand to use the term of D E A F.!
Yah! DEAF PRIDE and DEAF SPIRIT that comes out very positive reinforcement that people need to face the reality and change their negative view of our deafness attitude. It hasnt bit changed much for years and years.. NO WONDER they are still not listening to us Deaf people who knows the truth more than Hearing professional. What kind of people are they trying to turn against Deaf children s will? ** shakin my head**
Have a wonderful day!
Sweetmind
Tsk, tsk, tsk...It's as usual for you...that is your MO (modus operandi)
in your refusal to think things through. I have nowhere denigrated the deaf in any shape or manner or form. You are the one who is defensive to the max and it shows in your responses.I have no problem being deaf. I know it and wearing a CI doesn't change that fact except in one respect. I can hear with it and that is why I have it. Each to their own and if it works for me that is all that matters. So, it doesn't work for you (using HA or whatever). Enjoy your world where you are comfortable. I certainly don't lord it over you or blast you or everybody in sight who disagrees with me.
I'm not forcing you to do anything. Any fool can live in a fool's paradise. Many do it and anyone who prefers to stick their head in the sand...is exactly that...foolish and maybe a fool. Being labeled hearing impaired doesn't limit you in how you want to live (other than be like the hearing) but simply a recognition of a reality that whether you like it or not that you cannot hear. You are missing a sense and their are significant consequences of that fact. Your denial does nothing to remove that fact.
As for signing, I have told you before and I will say it again, I have never needed it and therefore never learned it. With my CI, it really makes it a moot point for me. It is another language and I don't have time to learn it nor anybody to use it on.
If anybody is embittered, I suggest you look long and hard in the mirror yourself... I'm quite content with who and what I am...that is a deaf person who lives amongst the hearing on their terms... This is what gets your goat that some can do it and you couldn't (which is no crime) and thus makes me and others in your mind a traitor to the deaf which is blatant poppycock.
Just remember there are two types of people in this world, those that are willing to deal with what life gives them and those that blame everybody else for their problems. Which will it be? Your choice...
Oh by the way, who said people have a perfect body that has no irregular bodies. So therefore no one is normal. It makes sense. Why bother bickering from you about having the term of DEAF from the start?
YOu know what s it alike to be deaf however you dont know what is alike to be hearing from the start. So therefore you are deaf as always since you were born.
So Medical professional poked your ears to make it functional hearing that is not always actually hearing. I hope you understand what I mean by this.
CI device arent perfect, and the brain of a deaf person is wired for the other 4 senses that is not always functional perfect because it doesnt fit our deafness brain that cannot measure it right. Anyhow, CI 's are more useful to latened deaf people because their brain are already wired for hearing itself.
Anything to say? How can you be hearing at first place? You have no idea what s it alike to be hearing. I cannot speak for hearing people because I am not functional hearing if you mind. So therefore hearing people with a huge negative audist attitude cannot speak for us and our deafness.
Then why are these people forced us to wear devices all the time that expect us to hear. So whats the purpose for us to have it from the beginning.. They were hoping for us and our deafness turned out to a hearing that will never happens.. You are wasting my time.
I dont need to be bittered about my own deafness that they taught you to feel this way all those years.. So I dont think they deserve to make money out on us and Deaf children from the start with all that negative attitude toward the TERM of DEAF. *RME*
No need to stick with one world that they want us into a Utopia group. Jeez! I am sorry you couldnt fix me as a hearing person that you need to face the reality. So be it!
I am Deaf as always that I will not regret for being deaf. People need to hear this more often.
Have a good day!
Sweetmind
YOu know what s it alike to be deaf however you dont know what is alike to be hearing from the start. So therefore you are deaf as always since you were born.
So Medical professional poked your ears to make it functional hearing that is not always actually hearing. I hope you understand what I mean by this.
CI device arent perfect, and the brain of a deaf person is wired for the other 4 senses that is not always functional perfect because it doesnt fit our deafness brain that cannot measure it right. Anyhow, CI 's are more useful to latened deaf people because their brain are already wired for hearing itself.
Anything to say? How can you be hearing at first place? You have no idea what s it alike to be hearing. I cannot speak for hearing people because I am not functional hearing if you mind. So therefore hearing people with a huge negative audist attitude cannot speak for us and our deafness.
Then why are these people forced us to wear devices all the time that expect us to hear. So whats the purpose for us to have it from the beginning.. They were hoping for us and our deafness turned out to a hearing that will never happens.. You are wasting my time.
I dont need to be bittered about my own deafness that they taught you to feel this way all those years.. So I dont think they deserve to make money out on us and Deaf children from the start with all that negative attitude toward the TERM of DEAF. *RME*
No need to stick with one world that they want us into a Utopia group. Jeez! I am sorry you couldnt fix me as a hearing person that you need to face the reality. So be it!
I am Deaf as always that I will not regret for being deaf. People need to hear this more often.
Have a good day!
Sweetmind
Also you have forgotten that the sounds that I can feel the vibration. Thats my own adaption. So what is your point of my missing sense?
How dare you forced me as a hearing person that is ignorant for me to stay deaf? It s my business and peaceful for being deaf. No one tells me that I cannot be deaf. For pete 's sake! No one have the right to make me as a hearing person because you cannot handle me as a Deaf person.. So that 's your own weakness.
I am happy the way I am that is the way it goes for me. Period! I have had enough with all those negative audist attitude people who doenst have any respect for a Deaf person like me. If you dont like then it s your problem.
So long!
Sweetmind
How dare you forced me as a hearing person that is ignorant for me to stay deaf? It s my business and peaceful for being deaf. No one tells me that I cannot be deaf. For pete 's sake! No one have the right to make me as a hearing person because you cannot handle me as a Deaf person.. So that 's your own weakness.
I am happy the way I am that is the way it goes for me. Period! I have had enough with all those negative audist attitude people who doenst have any respect for a Deaf person like me. If you dont like then it s your problem.
So long!
Sweetmind
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Sunshine1 said:
Yeah, I sometimes get that, too. Some people wonder how I can be hoh because my speech is very clear. I have a hearing dog and sometimes they even take the liberty to ask about my hearing, point and gawk at my dog (we're a circus act, remember . . . keep watching, we may do a trick) or ask what specific duties my dog does, as if I have to prove my hearing loss. :roll: Gee, can I ask the women if it's their time of month or ask the men if they have E D?
I'm tempted to sometimes. 