Deaf VR counselor arrested by undercover cops for child cybersex case

[Throwstones]

"Bait the predators"--that's the key phrase. The law enforcers are catching child predators, not innocent people.

some innocent people could be baiting by decoy for no reason.. You never know what will be happening to any of us!

 

[Reba]

some innocent people could be baiting by decoy for no reason.. You never know what will be happening to any of us!

If you don't want to get arrested, don't try to meet 13-year-olds for sex. Simple.

 

[deafmyers]

If you don't want to get arrested, don't try to meet 13-year-olds for sex. Simple.

Amen! Amen! Amen! -- R.

 

[Reba]

The OK officials have been doing this for a while. Apparently, some people don't learn.

Police: Virgin ploy snares Tulsa man

By Tom Blakey
The Norman Transcript

A 30-year-old Tulsa man was arrested Tuesday by Norman police detectives, after he allegedly arranged a sexual encounter with a woman he thought was a 13-year-old virgin while communicating with her in an Internet chat room.
Aaron Sandor Vajda was charged Thursday in Cleveland County District Court with attempted lewd proposal to a minor; attempted abduction of a person under age 15; use of a computer to violate Oklahoma law; possession of child pornography; and engaging in a pattern of criminal offenses.
The woman posing as a 13-year-old virgin was in fact Nikki, a 36-year-old Colorado resident who works with Norman police detectives in busting would-be pedophiles. Nikki is the owner/operator of U.S. Cyberwatch, an Internet-based organization that tracks would-be child predators (uscyberwatch.com). Nikki asked that her real name be withheld to protect her children from retaliation.
Nikki said she posed in the chat room as a "girl who knew very little about anything sexual."
"He liked that and got very graphic -- so graphic with the Web cam images he sent that he's being charged with pornography," she said.
This is the second time Vajda has been taken in by the virgin ploy. The first time was 15 months ago, Nikki said.
"But because we didn't have a pre-existing agreement with Tulsa police, he wasn't arrested," she said. Nikki said Vajda went to the pre-arranged meeting place in Tulsa, but detectives weren't waiting to arrest him, as they did in Norman.
"U.S. Cyberwatch did post his photo and chat room logs (on their Web site) and community notification went out (fliers and letters warning neighbors and employers that Vajda is a potential pedophile)," she said.
Vajda initiated a series of conversations with Nikki in early June, police said, and was arrested by detectives after arriving at an east central Norman residence where he thought he'd be meeting the 13-year-old.
"U.S. Cyberwatch targets only those child predators who want to meet in real life," she said.
Nikki said U.S. Cyberwatch is planning to conduct a community meeting in Norman later this year to raise awareness of the predators lurking in Internet chat rooms.
"We're focusing not only on catching these predators, but also on prevention, so that children can avoid becoming the target of a predator in the first place," she said.
District Attorney Tim Kuykendall is sponsoring the community meeting, tentatively planned for early fall "after school starts back up," Nikki said.
Tom Blakey 366-3540 tblakey@normantranscript.com
The Norman Transcript - Police: Virgin ploy snares Tulsa man

"Vajda initiated a series of conversations with Nikki." That means the guy started it, not the girl.

If a guy is innocent, why would he go to a chat site to meet young girls?

This shows that the police don't lure the guys into temptation.

 

[shel90]

some innocent people could be baiting by decoy for no reason.. You never know what will be happening to any of us!

How inncoent is the guy if he said "ok" to meeting a "13 year old" for sex? That way of thinking and the fact he acted on it MAkES him GUILTY!!!!

Like Reba said, if u don't want to get "caught" or be "baited" don't talk to a strange 13 year old in the first place even if that 13 year old is really an undercover cop!!!!

This man cud prey on my daughter so I am so happy he got caught!

 

[Reba]

The same thing happened here last week. A man from Michigan flew to Charleston to meet a 12-year-old girl for sex. When he landed at the airport, he was arrested. He had his laptop computer with him. How stupid is that? He carried all his incriminating evidence with him. Ha!

 

[deafmyers]

Ya know.. Its common sense NOT to meet a 13 year old at a convenience store ALONE for any reason. If its your own child, then thats different but come on.. 13 year olds can not make legal decisions, cannot enter to a contract, etc like adults can... plain and simple. -- R.

 

[deafmyers]

The same thing happened here last week. A man from Michigan flew to Charleston to meet a 12-year-old girl for sex. When he landed at the airport, he was arrested. He had his laptop computer with him. How stupid is that? He carried all his incriminating evidence with him. Ha!

Should have been profiled on "dumb crooks" LOL! -- R.

 

[christlovedeaf]

Yup.. and his preliminary hearing has been continued until April 3rd. -- R.

yeah, remember, sometimes many years later, found out the person actually innocence. If you are from Okla, if so, you know about D A Bob Macy did. He tainted and paying chemist to make a person looks guilty and several prisoners dna didnt matched as recording to Wash. DC. So doesn't matter what the outcome can be. So hard to tell who really is a criminal and also been accuse criminals. D A forced to retired, not going to prison, could I call that fair and justice, Nopey. One guy been in prison for 17 yr missed his child birth to grad, and that D A stole his livelyhood and characters. That is worse crime of all crime to do so.

 

[Throwstones]

If you don't want to get arrested, don't try to meet 13-year-olds for sex. Simple.

That's right but I speak of general not prediators. That is what I meant to tell you! I know the law not allow anyone to talk to 13 years old girl about sex issues.

I try to tell you that anyone who can frame any of us up for no reason for any general issues.

 

[deafmyers]

yeah, remember, sometimes many years later, found out the person actually innocence. If you are from Okla, if so, you know about D A Bob Macy did. He tainted and paying chemist to make a person looks guilty and several prisoners dna didnt matched as recording to Wash. DC. So doesn't matter what the outcome can be. So hard to tell who really is a criminal and also been accuse criminals. D A forced to retired, not going to prison, could I call that fair and justice, Nopey. One guy been in prison for 17 yr missed his child birth to grad, and that D A stole his livelyhood and characters. That is worse crime of all crime to do so.

Granted there are bad apples out there but in this case... Talking to a "13 year old" online about sex is worse than what the DA Macy did... far worse! -- R.

 

[deafmyers]

That's right but I speak of general not prediators. That is what I meant to tell you! I know the law not allow anyone to talk to 13 years old girl about sex issues.

I try to tell you that anyone who can frame any of us up for no reason for any general issues.

OK - Talking to a 13 year old about general issues such as?????? -- R.

 

[christlovedeaf]

Granted there are bad apples out there but in this case... Talking to a "13 year old" online about sex is worse than what the DA Macy did... far worse! -- R.

i would say the same. bec imagining putting you in prison something you didnt do or whatever that might be, which lead you mentally, emotionally damage and scarred. it's horrible and frightening to think about. yes, what he did does cost him to do. but what and how it happen, must be known. it is silly, to get to involve minors and sickening too.

 

[Throwstones]

OK - Talking to a 13 year old about general issues such as?????? -- R.

No, The general is any prostitution, drugs dealer, gambling illegal, sex molestor, and other issues. The decoys can arrest them for illegal purpose but some innocent people could be happening through one of those.

 

[Throwstones]

i would say the same. bec imagining putting you in prison something you didnt do or whatever that might be, which lead you mentally, emotionally damage and scarred. it's horrible and frightening to think about. yes, what he did does cost him to do. but what and how it happen, must be known. it is silly, to get to involve minors and sickening too.

A person once arrested by decoy then his/her life will NEVER be same after getting SCAR in their mind, emotion and soul. That will be extremely affect her/his life to change. You will notice it.

 

[deafmyers]

OK - Talking to a 13 year old about general issues such as?????? -- R.

The point is.. I cant see being arrested for talking to a 13 year old about school activities, cars, etc that would subject you being arrested or even "framed" .... that is what I mean.. -- R.

 

[Throwstones]

The point is.. I cant see being arrested for talking to a 13 year old about school activities, cars, etc that would subject you being arrested or even "framed" .... that is what I mean.. -- R.

For example, anyone can set you up for no reason and put false accusation on you before decoy can arrest you as it is actually framed up. Clear???

 

[deafmyers]

For example, anyone can set you up for no reason and put false accusation on you before decoy can arrest you as it is actually framed up. Clear???

OK but how does this have anything to do with talking to a 13 year old? --R.

 

[christlovedeaf]

well, i wont be ongoing debate about this issues. there are differences. there will be real predators and accuse of predator be thrown in jail alike.

 

[deafmyers]

well, i wont be ongoing debate about this issues. there are differences. there will be real predators and accuse of predator be thrown in jail alike.

Christlovedeaf... I wasnt debating with you.. LOL... I was with Throwstones... I was attempting to rationalize how talking to a minor could subect you to being arrested if it was talking about general issues? Smile. -- R.