Deaf VR counselor arrested by undercover cops for child cybersex case

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Oh, the other thing is this, few years ago, I'm not there anymore. I was overseers for moderator one of the chat room. It is adult room, one claimed to be in the 20's and one came up on pvt message and said he is 15, i automatically report to mod, immediately banned the person. Many kids are doing that, and it is no excuse for kids doing that toward adult against personal will inspite of ages. It has to be stop and it is parents responsibilty to block the chat room and i dont care what age and the parents should find out if their kids fake their ages to cause adult in trouble.

Yes, it happen to anyone, anywhere.. When I was a student from SFSU at that time, it was a local story about a bookstore worker at SFSU got arrested for meeting a minor at a hotel. She thought that gal was 18, but the gal lied about her own age. That gal was really 13. It was terrible. Yes, that female bookstore worker went to jail and has to register into sexual offender database.
 
Yes, I know about Laura Ingalls Wilder, and not just from the TV show. I sure hope you aren't even trying to compare the marriage of two 19th century pioneers with a 21st century dirty old married man pursuing sex with teens over the internet! Whoa!

hahaha, pursuiting is sickening. But treat a person as a human being is different view. hahaha, As Little House on the Prairie, not sure if you know as a real life that real Almonzo is much older than Laura Ingalls and what has happen not the whole story as on tv, but as the idea they were actually large different age range and there are some "Almonzo" reputation in this society, but couldn't able to do it. Bec they focusing on "statistic" of the problem than the person who really is. More as we are not human anymore, we are "statistic", bec they will not care what you really say, bec they will say, "I heard that before", not from you, but from "high rating" of people are saying and identify as you are like everyone else. That is where the problem are coming from, not just what this thread about, it can be anything, even you may be arrested in simplistic thing without you know why you are arrested , bec their words against you. There are alot you get guilty charges without motives. And even been tainted. But like you said pursuiting the teens, is big NO NO. And,it is sickening.
 
Yes, it happen to anyone, anywhere.. When I was a student from SFSU at that time, it was a local story about a bookstore worker at SFSU got arrested for meeting a minor at a hotel. She thought that gal was 18, but the gal lied about her own age. That gal was really 13. It was terrible. Yes, that female bookstore worker went to jail and has to register into sexual offender database.

Yupper, that's how that work. And tragically, there is no law, for falsifying if you are a minor and claimed to be an adult. I have been hearing many people saying, I hate kids. Bec they feel totally insecure by them. And even Senior citizen hating young people bec what young people did to them and lead them feeling insecure. There are lot of messed up in the legal system. Not only that, like parents went to work and thought the kid was sick, but really truance situation. Many lost their job bec arrested on the job, bec of their kids. And is it still parents fault? Even the kids lied to their parents' even thought their kids is sick or claiming they are at school without parent's knowledge? The law will not listen to theirs or your "excuses" as the law perspective. I'm very respectful for the law, but the problem I have is the one who is the law themselves the way how they use. If you break the law, is it always bad? Not always, it's depend on what. Look at Daniel in the Bible, Paul, Peter and etc. It's depends. Hahaha, even some state use like it is illegal for having ice cream cones in your pocket. In Neb., the couple was arrested bec their baby burped in the church. HAHAHAHA. There are a book called Wacky Law, has a lot of pages about different state laws, toooo many you wouldn't beleive. It was my brother's book.
 
I have raised few questions, how was this investigation executed? I was wondering if this counselor had arrangement to meet at convience store or cop just spotted him there? Have any plans to meet together going on? This article didn't say details and I am not so sure. Also, do he have wireless network at his home, if so is there any chance somebody with lappy inside car happen to be next to his house and broke in and doing sicko chat and frame him up?

I didn't think of this until recently. I felt that it would be good idea to find out exact what had happened instead of jumping the gun.
 
It doesn't matter if he had six PhD's. It wasn't his brain that was controlling him; use your imagination. Maybe, Feb. 12 was an "accident"; but Feb. 23 was no accident.

Since you know so much about this case, maybe you can share with us where this meeting online took place. Was Kirby doing research for a doctoral dissertation "accidentally" at myspace?

I understand that I was so shocked when I first heard about it. He used to be my VR counselor. After my husband explained to me that it can happened to anyone no matter who is from the background like ministers, pastor, doctors, FBI agent, senator from Washington DC, etc that he saw on TV. He was amazed that it all come from a different men who are having the problem with their own lifestyle. The important things is to have a controlled in your mind and heart in the right place.
 
can you blame on anyone to tempt you if you fell into sinning?

Remember those people are being testing on their weakness from their heart and mind and can you look in 1 Peter 5:8-9. You can't blame or making any judgment on people if they choose to serve the devil!

Remembered that when King David had an affair with a beautiful woman and King David murdered her husband!!! That is an example we lived in today's world!!
 
Read this newspaper again... Pretendor is a undercover with over 18 years age can be saying i am 13 years old to Kirby that why kirby do not know that pretendor is over 18 years age How can it hardly tell???? Can you blame on Kirby for causing? No... It is causing by undercover cops or person!

He already knew that girl was 13 years old when chatting online. He choose it himself. You said he did not know??? He knew it was 13 years old girl! That is a big different in here.
 
I am blaming on undercovers cops, detective or FBI for setting up to Kirby and tempted him to fell into sinning.

We lived in a law of nation so that is what law is here for to catching anyone who is breaking the laws. Those any undercover cops, agents, FBI & any other official group are following within the laws to do their job. In same way, if we speeding on the highway and we get either get a warning or fine ticket so that is a law for the cops to stopping us.

Here is another one who are cheating on their spouses everyday, Cheaters.com - Cheaters® reality TV exposes extramarital affairs,marriage problems,cheating husbands,cheating spouses,causes of divorce and emotional infidelity.. They are out there to catch anyone so they can use the evidences against their spouse in court. There is nothing we can do about that because of the laws. There is no way to sue against them if they are complying within the laws.
 
Where Are The Female Predators?

interesting,

Inside Dateline : Where are the female predators?

by Jesamyn Go, Dateline Web producer

After every ‘To Catch the Predator’ broadcast, the Dateline inbox always gets this question from viewers: Where are the female predators?

“They are out there,” one e-mailer wrote. “I find it hard to believe given all the teacher scandals that there are no female Internet predators.”

Perverted-Justice has only ever encountered one female predator, according to Del Harvey, who has been a Perverted-Justice contributor since 2004 and who has acted as a decoy in the group’s investigations. The contributors use decoy profiles that are of girls and boys, but only men have shown up for meetings with what they thought to be underage teens.

Robert Weiss, executive director and founder of the Sexual Recovery Clinic in California (and who has been featured in one of our episodes), says that while their center treats both male and female offenders, sexual compulsions on the Internet do seem to be a male-dominated thing. “Women, in general, seem to look for relationships and not necessarily sex – although female offenders will have sex with a minor. They’re just less likely to seek someone out randomly online.”

He adds that men tend to me more visual (which is probably why pornography often factors into potential predators’ online chats with decoys), and men tend to be more comfortable with sex detached from relationships.

Weiss also says that in relationships, women are generally less aggressive than men — and that this is also true in this case. “So a ‘female predator’ needs to cross more social and cultural lines to actually become an offender. But when they reach that point or seek out help, they are generally more troubled and are tougher to treat.”

So what makes a ‘predator’? For Weiss, a man or woman truly needs help if the desire to have a sexual relationship with an underage teen turns into attempts to do so. Weiss says, “You’re not a predator if you have occasional fantasies about underage teens and don’t take it further than that. Predators take it to the next step by seeking out images, chats and eventual meetings with kids. Any attempt to make that kind of fantasy into a reality is predatory.”

Also, the person must be taking advantage of an inequity of power – due to age or the nature of the relationship. Perhaps this is why for many, including for those us working at Dateline, it is more upsetting to see people like teachers, doctors, and rabbis — people who are expected to protect youngsters — walk into the house.

Weiss hopes the series encourages more people who need help to seek it. He says that the clinic has received numerous calls from people who, after watching the Dateline reports, identified with the problem and feared they could be potential predators. “There are a lot of things at play for those men — problems that exist and things that happen to an individual — before they end up showing up at the Dateline house,” he says. “Compulsive sexual behavior is treatable,” he says.
 
investigations To Catch a Predator
Dateline hidden camera investigations on 'Net predators
Location Year No. of men who showed up
Outside NYC-area 2004 18 men in 2 1/2 days
Washington D.C. suburb 2005 19 men in 3 days
Southern California 2006 50 men in 3 days
Greenville, Ohio *Part 1 and Part 2 2006 18 men in 3 days (list)
Ft. Myers, Florida *Part 1 and Part 2 2006 24 men in 3 days (list)
Harris County, Ga. *Part 1 and Part 2 2006 20 men in 4 1/2 days (list)
Petaluma, Calif. *Part 1 and Part 2 2006 29 men in 3 days (list)
Long Beach, Calif. *Part 1 and *Part 2 2006 38 men in 3 days (list)
Murphy, Texas *Part 1 and *Part 2 2006 25 men
(list)
Flagler Beach, Fla. *Part 1 and Part 2 2006 21 men in 4 days​
 
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Thanks RR for cleaning it up in here... I think the intent of this thread to be as informative and to share our opinions of this matter but NOT trying to insult or bash anyone in this forum. RR deserves a hand wave!!!! :bowdown: :thumb::ty:
 
Just pray for Kirby Hodges and his family... God comfort their situation and be strengthen from the Lord!
 
Its hard to believe if the predator is someone you know well and for years. I do not know if Kirby is truly a predator or was in a frame up. Have to wait for the trial.

Besides, many predators often lead "double lives" which means they live one life as a married person with kids, job, education, etc and the other life as a predator--molesting, having sex with minors and so on...The dark/evil life they have usually is hidden from everyone who knows them except the victims.

It sucks that we have f***ked up people walking on earth and hurting others.
 
Its hard to believe if the predator is someone you know well and for years. I do not know if Kirby is truly a predator or was in a frame up. Have to wait for the trial.

Besides, many predators often lead "double lives" which means they live one life as a married person with kids, job, education, etc and the other life as a predator--molesting, having sex with minors and so on...The dark/evil life they have usually is hidden from everyone who knows them except the victims.

It sucks that we have f***ked up people walking on earth and hurting others.

Hey Sillycat.. I know what you mean! Tonight I had bowling league, someone informed me that past year the news spread around state that they already set new system for decoy to bait the predators. We thought if Kirby knows about this or not because he may or may not attention on the news or new law update. We have no idea what is going on by now.

Yeah I agree with you that could be frame up on Kirby or not. We have to wait and see how thing is going on.
 
...someone informed me that past year the news spread around state that they already set new system for decoy to bait the predators. ...
"Bait the predators"--that's the key phrase. The law enforcers are catching child predators, not innocent people.
 
Yeah, have no all story come out. True, need to catch the REAL predators. As of Kirby's case, have to find out what the WHOLE story, not editing story.
 
Yeah, have no all story come out. True, need to catch the REAL predators. As of Kirby's case, have to find out what the WHOLE story, not editing story.

Yup.. and his preliminary hearing has been continued until April 3rd. -- R.
 
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