Deaf view on a CI kid... its a bummer..

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Not quite. I talked about SOUND, because I wanted explain something to you, and after I that I wanted to explain something else.

Yes you talk about SOUND which comes from ears. That´s why I use "ear" because you keep on talk about sound, hear, etc. etc.

Yes, I know that you tried to explain but I tried to explain you that it doesn´t matter how exact difference sound HOH and hearing can hear but mainly important is they are happy and consider themselves to can hear normal. You denied that "HOH" who can speak/phone on the phone with HA like hearing people.


It is true that you didn't follow me, but talked about your own thing.

Yes, that´s right. Why should I follow you when I don´t know what an exact sound is because I am deaf. I tried to pick your post to share what I know from my life experience about sounds etc.


My posts didn't make sense to you because you didn't understand what I wanted to say.

Not that I didn´t understand what you want to say. All what you kept on talk about ear which is mainly important to you than anything including language skill etc... example of all: You mentioned in previous post that hearing parents do not have to learn sign..., can speak children´s ear to help to hear development which make no sense to me... You think ear is mainly important... I think language skill is mainly important... That´s why we talk different.

EXACTLY, you are NOT interested in what I have to say - you only want to push your opinion on ME.

Is it push when I expressed my opinion in friendly and polite way to you? I often say that I am not interest about an exact sound etc. etc... All what I want to positive you what I know in life experiences how the people are happy what they are.. and can hear on the phone with HA and can speak like hearing... It´s mainly important to me than consider the exact different sounds etc.


If you were interested in what I wanted to say, you'd listen.

Yes, I do listen... If I do not listen then I would not quote your post, don´t I? I quoted your posts because I disagree with your post and positive my post in different way about real life experiences.


This is sad how you never give me chance to actually say something to you.

I would only if you respect our posts instead of prove us wrong. I have no problem to have you to disagree with me but prove us wrong/accused us as a liar, false, etc... which is not acceptance. You said this to me at other general thread.

Yes because I could see you don't get my point -LIKE WITH THE PIG HAM.
Why is that you never believe me? I told you over and over and over - you don't understand about the Ham. And you were like "oh yeah, yeah, I do"! Then I showed you the picture.

No, you confused me with your post over ham... You said "Ham in pet food". I was like huh because I never see that ham in pet food here in Germany but pork, beef, chicken, turkey, kind of fishes... You keep on say... YES, ham in pet foods are everywhere in the world. I check websites but none... all what they say is pork, beef, etc... in pet foods... We confused until you post the picture. I got what you talked about is PORK... That´s what I kept said pork, pork.. pork.. you kept on said ham ham ham..

ham
ham - Google Bilder

pork
pork - Google Bilder

You should say PORK... , not HAM...

Don´t try to confuse me with your post... You did READ my post about "PORK"... or maybe you didn´t know what "pork" is because it´s British language, not American language?



and you are doing it again now with different subject. why not believe me?
Sadly, I don't have any picture to prove this time.

What kind of pictures, you want to prove me here since you already posted several pictures here and another CI threads ? *scratch my head* or you think I don´t understand the pictures what you posted here?

No, actually you wanted patiently to tell me YOUR POV, not listen to MINE.

No, I am very patience with your rude and offensive behavior toward me at other general thread, not just CI threads. I am very patience with your for call me liar, maniputation, etc at other general thread. I am also very patience and tried to calm you down after read your insult/acussed posts toward posters here and 2 CI threads.


I abolutely did not that to convince other posters. That was between me and you. Should I have PM you?

Really?
http://www.alldeaf.com/846560-post241.html

If you claimed that it should be between you and me then solve PM.

You could have tell me to.

How do I know that you digged 2 years old post and pasted over here?

I did that to GET YOU TO UNDERSTAND. To remind you how once you were convinced you got my POV but you DIDN'T.

Yes I know what you talked about but do I have to follow your POV when I see different as you?

I am aware of that, and I agree, but this has nothing to do with WHY I brough this old post up - I brought this back because I wanted to show you YOU DON'T get MY POV.

I see different.

Those ham situation is confused with different language between British and American which is total different as our debate here. Don´t try to compare ham situation with CI situation here.




I DID understand, understand NOW, and always WILL understand and accept about the differences about British and American langauge.

You claimed you understood that the confusion between British and American language over ham but why brought those subject up to create more problem here for? Is that because I am not interesting to follow your POV?
 
Actually, Cloggy......
Just think about it. First she boasted about moving a couple states for her son.
Then somebody pointed out how she severed all close relationship her son had by moving away. Immediately another relatives at a new place resurfaced.

That, too, was cloggy. And if you must know, it is all very true. I grew up in Ohio, moved to TN with my husband, returned to Ohio. Since I grew up here, I have many relatives all over the state of Ohio. Perhaps if you ever got out of your limited little world you would see that it is very possible.
I briefly wondered if she is a psychologist, and yes, you guess it :) - of course immediately she became one :)

Where have I ever said I was a psychologist? I said one of my degrees was in psychology. In order to be defined as a "psychologist" one msut have earned either a Ph.D. or a Psy.D. in psychology. I have an undergraduate degree with a major in psychology, a minor in sociology, and graduated Summa Cum Laude. I have a Master's in counseling, and am currently working on my Ph.D. in counseling. Therefore, I am a clinical counselor with certification in school and rehab. Please, fuzzy, if you are going to attempt to disprove, you need to get your facts straight. And as you are probably unaware of the fact, as well, that clinical lisensure in counseling provides one the priviledge of diagnosisng and treating mental disorders.
She claimed to know all about AVT until somebody pointed out it doesn't use sign language. Then immediately she is at Bill Wilkerson Speech and Hearing Center???

Yep, my son attended Mama Lere Preschool at Bill Wilkerson Speech and Hearing Center in Nashville, Tn. If you bothered to read any of my posts, you would already see the progression. However, as you are intent in opnly posting regarding your misunderstanding, rather than your understanding, you are constatly bringing up additional points on which you are also mistaken. And yes, AVTdoes not use sign language, and if you will do a little research instead of spending all your time looking for discrepancies that do not exist, yo will find that in 1988, Bill Wilkerson was a strict oral institution, as was their pre-school program. If you had read all of my post, you would also see that I went outside of the program to seek sign language for both myself and my son because the strict oral philosophy being imposed upon us was creating an atmosphere of frustration for my child. I did what was necessary to remedicte that. It is obvious what that level of frustration is capable of doing to achild. Just look in the mirror.
If you showed a link about sneezing being beneficial for a deaf development she probaly would immediately come up with having a few degrees on the subject.

I guess after an hour or two on Google, anyone can quickly become an expert....

Yep, an hour or two on Google makes you think you are an expert on everything, when in reality, your knowledge and experience are extremely limited. The problem is, you don't understand exactly how little you do know, nor will you listen to anyone's attempt to attempt to provide you with correction. You, my friend are ignorance, personified, and seem to be very happy in your own ignorant state. Thee is hope for those who are ignorant, but willing to learn. For angry, bitter, ignorant people such as yourself, there is no hope.
 
Once again, the kind of English -British or American - doesn't matter.
What matter is, when I tell you "Liebling, I can see by your responses to me, you don't get my POV" - and you say "yes I do! yes I do!'
I say "NO Liebling you don't get it, I can see it". You say - "yes I DO! don't twist and manipulate my words, you learn about literacy!"

So, I went back and dig up the old post to PROVE YOU DON'T GET ME.

And you immediately accuse me of being ignorant, belittling and whatever, Fine.


That's because you don't even know what your POV is. It changes everythime you think you see an opportunity to impress some hearing person with your POV. Then when the heat from the deaf gets too much for you to bear, you start backtracking and trying to change your original words. Get a grip fuzzy, and decide which side of the fence you are standing on. Your neediness to be accepted by someone...anyone...is having a too great influence on your behavior.
 
Once again, the kind of English -British or American - doesn't matter.
What matter is, when I tell you "Liebling, I can see by your responses to me, you don't get my POV" - and you say "yes I do! yes I do!'
I say "NO Liebling you don't get it, I can see it". You say - "yes I DO! don't twist and manipulate my words, you learn about literacy!"

So, I went back and dig up the old post to PROVE YOU DON'T GET ME.

And you immediately accuse me of being ignorant, belittling and whatever, Fine.


That's because you don't even know what your POV is. It changes everythime you think you see an opportunity to impress some hearing person with your POV. Then when the heat from the deaf gets too much for you to bear, you start backtracking and trying to change your original words. Get a grip fuzzy, and decide which side of the fence you are standing on. Your neediness to be accepted by someone...anyone...is having a too great influence on your behavior.

Jillio, I don't think Fuzzy will ever get it. There's a wall in front of her and she will keep goin' at it, believe me.
 
First she boasted about moving a couple states for her son.

Boast?

That´s an exactly example what I tried to tell you in previous post that we talk/see different.

I see different as you... I don´t see that she boasted.... but she answered somebody´s question in manner way because somebody want her answer.
 
Look you said your daugther WAS deaf huh no she is still DEAF always will be no she is not hearing with CI on. She only can hear when she put her CI on which it doesn't mean she is hearing get it!!
LOL nice try Cloggy.!!! I didn't say that you DENIED. You just wouldn't type* deaf* with capital D.
Geezzzz you really cannot read. Have a look, and now read it... (click here..)

..look at thread *Why Cochlear Implant Hurt Deaf Culture?*
Post 420/426/431.
You quoted said your daughter hearing. :roll:
Again, find the post where I said that....

Don't just back out now. Show me MY posts where I said that...

Ahh.. well let me just make sure: My daughter is not Deaf.
And .... my daughter is deaf. She can hear...
 
Jeezzz, you guys, this is spiraling into pettiness. Enough, I say! Let's start all over again but this time let us all bring our manners.
 
Once again. Ubeliveable. I just read posts I've missed:

Just the page 7:

I'm just thriller that none of these hearing parents here are like you, it seem you would put yourself first before your deaf child, how sad....


You already responded to that on post #172 after I stated that on post #162...

Nice try Fuzzy,
 
Geezzzz you really cannot read. Have a look, and now read it... (click here..)


Again, find the post where I said that....

Don't just back out now. Show me MY posts where I said that...

Ahh.. well let me just make sure: My daughter is not Deaf.
And .... my daughter is deaf. She can hear...

She already did. Or can you not read the post numbers?

Ahhh, so yur daughter is deaf, and in your reasoning,that also means you consider her to handicapped.
 
Boast?

That´s an exactly example what I tried to tell you in previous post that we talk/see different.

I see different as you... I don´t see that she boasted.... but she answered somebody´s question in manner way because somebody want her answer.

Thank you liebling. It wasn't intended as boasting at all, just a statement of facts.
 
She already did. Or can you not read the post numbers?

Ahhh, so yur daughter is deaf, and in your reasoning,that also means you consider her to handicapped.

Your son is deaf isn't he? So doesn't that make him handicapped as well? Anybody can twist Deaf/deaf to fit their own needs. Lotte is NOT "big-D-Deaf" as considered by the Deaf community.

I'm deaf *and* I can hear - why do so many people have a problem with this kind of statement?
 
Your son is deaf isn't he? So doesn't that make him handicapped as well? Anybody can twist Deaf/deaf to fit their own needs. Lotte is NOT "big-D-Deaf" as considered by the Deaf community.

I'm deaf *and* I can hear - why do so many people have a problem with this kind of statement?


I don't have a problem with that statement but however when someone says " my child is no longer deaf *but* hearing " that can confused many folks here not only those who are deaf ....
 
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I'm deaf *and* I can hear - why do so many people have a problem with this kind of statement?

Because that kind of statement can really confused people in believing that you're hearing and deaf. It's best to say, "I'm deaf but now wearing a CI to help me hear." That's a much better statement to put down, Less confusing. :)
 
Because that kind of statement can really confused people in believing that you're hearing and deaf. It's best to say, "I'm deaf but now wearing a CI to help me hear." That's a much better statement to put down, Less confusing. :)


QFT!!!
 
I'm deaf *and* I can hear - why do so many people have a problem with this kind of statement?

I really have no problem for your statement like that.

I was like :confused: when someone stated: "My child WAS deaf..." It sound like that his/her child is an ex-deaf or what?

I would say, Yes I am deaf but I can hear with the help from HA or CI.
 
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