Deaf Education research......

[AlleyCat]

I didn't say fine. I say decent. I just don't think we know the whole story. I mean she had no auditory input for 9 years and all ASL? if she went from there to good speech?

Who knows .. Perhaps she did have decent (or even fine - I equate them to be about the same) oral skills. Perhaps not. I guess we don't know for sure. It was just a movie.

 

[deafgal001]

yeah. just a movie.

 

[Bebonang]

It sound like the movie is a real life story to FJ. And it is only a movie which give the viewer an idea of what a deaf was like before she got CI. It is only a movie. :roll:

 

[faire_jour]

It sound like the movie is a real life story to FJ. And it is only a movie which give the viewer an idea of what a deaf was like before she got CI. It is only a movie. :roll:

No, it is a documentary. It was a true story. Did you not understand that? That eye roll is way off base.

 

[Bebonang]

No, it is a documentary. It was a true story. Did you not understand that? That eye roll is way off base.

Only if it is true, but you never know that the director or the writer, not the author, would change the story a little bit different what the author is trying to write in a true story. If the book is telling the true story, then that is true. Beside, I have not see the movie and all movies are always fiction, whether true story or not. Sorry for the roll eyes.

 

[faire_jour]

Only if it is true, but you never know that the director or the writer, not the author, would change the story a little bit different what the author is trying to write in a true story. If the book is telling the true story, then that is true. Beside, I have not see the movie and all movies are always fiction, whether true story or not. Sorry for the roll eyes.

They didn't write it. They just filmed the family during their real life. There isn't an author or a book or actors, it is real life with a real family.

 

[Frisky Feline]

I saw her and I have not seen her speaking but signing to her aunt. She's pretty tall than I am. lol.

 

[rockdrummer]

Just responding in kind and you, after your below the belt comments about RD's child, should be the last person to comment.

He is part of the problem and he doesn't even realize it. He is only doing harm and a tremendous dis-service to the deaf community. Remember this is the guy that suggested it's ok for a deaf child to be molested at a residential deaf school for the sake of the quality education they will get there.

 

[Daredevel7]

I didn't say fine. I say decent. I just don't think we know the whole story. I mean she had no auditory input for 9 years and all ASL? if she went from there to good speech?

I don't know anything about Sound and Fury. But I can tell you that I've seen this in person. A family member of mine who is profoundly deaf had NO ASL and NO English (written nor spoken) before he got implanted because oral-only did not work for him at all. Only hand-made signs. He got implanted when he was about 6 years old. He also went to a oral deaf school designed for CI students. By the time he was 14, he was mainstreamed, spoke better than me, and could talk to his friends on the phone. When he was 16, he met a Deaf girl and got involved in the deaf community and signs now too.

So I am not surprised by the capability of the CI to change someone drastically along with an education methodology geared for CI recipients.

BTW I am not saying that the above method was the ONLY way to get him updated to his peer level. It's possible that if he went to a deaf school, he could have the same results.

Although, they found out later, when he finally had language, he was legally blind also. Not sure how that would affect his visual reception of ASL/fingerspelling..... It's all very interesting to me!

 

[posts from hell]

He is part of the problem and he doesn't even realize it. He is only doing harm and a tremendous dis-service to the deaf community. Remember this is the guy that suggested it's ok for a deaf child to be molested at a residential deaf school for the sake of the quality education they will get there.

lolololol Nice twist on things... *smh*

BTW: Just yesterday I improved deaf accessibility at a county jail - free of charge.

 

[faire_jour]

I don't know anything about Sound and Fury. But I can tell you that I've seen this in person. A family member of mine who is profoundly deaf had NO ASL and NO English (written nor spoken) before he got implanted because oral-only did not work for him at all. Only hand-made signs. He got implanted when he was about 6 years old. He also went to a oral deaf school designed for CI students. By the time he was 14, he was mainstreamed, spoke better than me, and could talk to his friends on the phone. When he was 16, he met a Deaf girl and got involved in the deaf community and signs now too.

So I am not surprised by the capability of the CI to change someone drastically along with an education methodology geared for CI recipients.

BTW I am not saying that the above method was the ONLY way to get him updated to his peer level. It's possible that if he went to a deaf school, he could have the same results.

Although, they found out later, when he finally had language, he was legally blind also. Not sure how that would affect his visual reception of ASL/fingerspelling..... It's all very interesting to me!

What school did he attend? They must be very good!

 

[deafgal001]

Wirelessly posted

6 years old sound about right. This girl was over 9 years old when she was implanted. I still think she developed oral skills at her old deaf school.

Btw, some blinddeaf use tacile SL

 

[jillio]

Me too..I find that much much more important than speech skills.

However, it wont stop me from giving every child an opportunity to develop speech/spoken skills.

Education, literacy, and healthy socio-emotiona development is my #1 primary for these kids.

And that is how it should be. That is the way to empower these kids so they grow up to be independent, well adjusted, and self sustaining adults.

 

[rockdrummer]

He is part of the problem and he doesn't even realize it. He is only doing harm and a tremendous dis-service to the deaf community. Remember this is the guy that suggested it's ok for a deaf child to be molested at a residential deaf school for the sake of the quality education they will get there.

lolololol Nice twist on things... *smh*

BTW: Just yesterday I improved deaf accessibility at a county jail - free of charge.

Nothing is twisted except your mind.

 

[Jiro]

Nothing is twisted except your mind.

but... you did twist it.

 

[Daredevel7]

What school did he attend? They must be very good!

Honestly, I don't know. I just know it was in St. Louis. They moved from Miami to there just for him. I only see him maybe once a year or less because his parents are divorced and his dad is still in Miami. I can ask next time I see the dad.

 

[posts from hell]

Nothing is twisted except your mind.

*shrugs* Just wait till the newspapers hit again... You'll see videophones in Boulder County Jail.

No big deal, just another day for me.

 

[jillio]

Not speech, I am talking about language. And why on earth would using spoken language mean that someone would end up unemployed? As I have always said, language is the most important thing (along with literacy, obviously) not which language or mode.

Oral programs focus on spoken language. And sacrifice access in the process.

 

[Daredevel7]

Wirelessly posted

6 years old sound about right. This girl was over 9 years old when she was implanted. I still think she developed oral skills at her old deaf school.

Btw, some blinddeaf use tacile SL

I understand, but since he was just barely legally blind, it wasn't obvious that he couldn't see very well. So even if he was taught ASL in order to teach him language without knowing that he couldn't see very well, would he be able be as receptive to ASL as someone who could see? Since he did do hand signs, perhaps he can understand some, but I would think fingerspelling would be too hard for him.

Or perhaps the act of him not being able to repeat fingerspelling would show that he couldn't see very well? I dunno. It's just an interesting case for me.

 

[jillio]

You're absolutely correct. And the person you're replying to demanded earlier to know how to teach or learn spoken language. I wonder why, when the "mode" was not important in just the very post before yours.

So many contradictions going on.