Cure for Down Syndrome...ban it!

KarissaMann05 said:
I think he meant by his family has a lower chance of disability risk, which probably don't concern him. But, I pray there is nothing happen to his family and him! :fingersx:
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Yes, someday he could possibly be the daddy. Then what?

Some people just lack empathy.
 
KarissaMann05 said:
I think he meant by his family has a lower chance of disability risk, which probably don't concern him. But, I pray there is nothing happen to his family and him! :fingersx:
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Yes, that's correct, there is no DS in my family and I was first person that is deaf in my family.
 
Reba said:
You are avoiding the question.

If a prenatal test could determine if a baby would be born deaf or homosexual, and the mothers decided to abort those babies, would your philosophy be the same? Would you support that?

I never said anything about a ban on abortion.
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I answered your question so I have to answer again.

My answer is no. I don't personally support women to abort their baby if they are deaf or homosexual. It is very sad but I don't want to interfere with mother's choice, beside advice.
 
Some thoughts -

I personally support the mother's right to choose from a generic standpoint - that is, in terms of the whole

BUT

I disagree with aborting purely because of the kid having Down. Or because of deaf. I disagree with aborting because of some alleged desire for individual "perfection" and/or some philosophical ideology.

In case medical testing determines that the child is actually sickly, suffering, poor quality of life, then that is something else.
 
well said dogmom, its about degrees of what is appropriate for 'discrimnation', not upholding ablism...ableism < read about that!
 
Reba said:
I find some attitudes about DS people to be disturbing.

Prenatal positive test results for a DS baby? Just get rid of it. Abort it. Have a "perfect" baby later.

How about expanding that to prenatal testing for deafness? Positive results? Abort the deaf baby. After all, they require more time, effort and expense to raise. You can always have a "perfect" baby later.

Chilling and disappointing.
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what is means on DS abbressive short??

means on DS baby? i am not sure DS:lol: it is cure to on baby?
 
Smithtr said:
what is means on DS abbressive short??

means on DS baby? i am not sure DS:lol: it is cure to on baby?
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DS = Down Syndrome

Down Syndrome is a birth defect caused by an extra chromosome in the baby. It is permanent.

Here's more explanation:

Down Syndrome Basics - What is Down Syndrome?

Down Syndrome causes mental retardation and physical health problems.

There is no cure for Down Syndrome.
 
I admit that some of my comment maybe disturbed to some members.

Before you make accusation, I never give a suggestion that mother should abort their child with DS or severe medical condition and I avoid those situation because I have no knowledge about people with DS. I can give plenty of advice if baby is deaf or blind. I believe that mother make decision with their baby.

I perfectly capable to take care of child who is deaf or deafblind because I have knowledge about deaf and deafblind (ASL/tactile signing is cool).

For child with DS, I have no knowledge/experience about them. If my income is limit so I may not have enough resource to take care of them, including medical care. I think it is best interest for adoptive parent to take care of them if they have knowledge/experience for child with special needs. One of my interpreter is excellent person to take care of child with special needs.

Because of false negative, some parents may have child with DS, by surprise if test doesn't say so.
 
Foxrac said:
Deafness? If they invent the testing to detect the deafness so they will unlikely to know until after 20 weeks. It is too late for abortion in some states, but they include exception for severe medical condition, such as DS so enable for women to have abortion after 20 weeks.

For states with little abortion restriction, abort deaf baby is sad but it is mother's choice, IMO.
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what's THAT? that's not an opinion!!, that's a fact, COMPLETELY different, sorry have to say, you don't seem to grasp fully the the meaning of "opinion" i mean Don't say IMO = which means 'In my opinion' because clearly it is NOT your opinion, you are just saying that there is a problem ans there is little or nothing you can do about it.. it's not an opinion!!
 
Foxrac said:
I don't understand about how sensitive are you and I think you are misunderstood my post.

I'm saying that 5% is not high number, regardless if it is from my families or anyone, also it is my opinion.

I never encourage any women to have abortion if they find their baby may have disability, including DS. It is completely in doctor and mother's hand.
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you are talking way above your own head again, and quit being stubborn, LISTEN to other posters here!, Reba is asking you something important, don't just think for 5 mins, THINK and pretend your are someone else and try think like them for half an hour, THEN post...

try it,its just another way of 'understand another person's question - properly'

which is why in 'marriage or relationships, or workplace disputes, or business meetings if argument occurs they say ' i need to go and come back why? not just for cooling off, but to THINK...and REALLY THINK!!!

try it
 
Grummer said:
what's THAT? that's not an opinion!!, that's a fact, COMPLETELY different, sorry have to say, you don't seem to grasp fully the the meaning of "opinion" i mean Don't say IMO = which means 'In my opinion' because clearly it is NOT your opinion, you are just saying that there is a problem ans there is little or nothing you can do about it.. it's not an opinion!!
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Oh wow, you misunderstanding my post and I have to clarify.

Abort the baby because of deaf is very sad but... I believe it is mother's choice, in my opinion.

It was my opinion about believe that mother make choice to do with their baby.

NOTE: The forum moderators saying that any of member's statement are treated as opinion, so if you try to claim as fact but I see you as opinion.
 
Grummer said:
you are talking way above your own head again, and quit being stubborn, LISTEN to other posters here!, Reba is asking you something important, don't just think for 5 mins, THINK and pretend your are someone else and try think like them for half an hour, THEN post...

try it,its just another way of 'understand another person's question - properly'

which is why in 'marriage or relationships, or workplace disputes, or business meetings if argument occurs they say ' i need to go and come back why? not just for cooling off, but to THINK...and REALLY THINK!!!

try it
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Oh wow, you are misunderstanding my post and I don't have good to say to make you understand.

5% is not high number, IMO. :cool2:

I answered Reba's question - see #63.
 
Reba said:
DS = Down Syndrome

Down Syndrome is a birth defect caused by an extra chromosome in the baby. It is permanent.

Here's more explanation:

Down Syndrome Basics - What is Down Syndrome?

Down Syndrome causes mental retardation and physical health problems.

There is no cure for Down Syndrome.
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Downs syndromes people looks like this...




these are 'best examples' meaning they look closer to normal looking people, they are 'more common' real Downs, but its hard to find them in google image search probably out of shame or censored by famillies of themselves, or what i don't know...
but this is jus tto give you an idea so you know what we're talking about
 
It is rare for me to see people with DS in public today - see about very few time in one month.

I think abortion is blamed for declining of population with DS.
 
Grummer said:
and...you could say that for Deaf people..now what you see??
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Different reason - not because of abortion - decline of deaf baby is mostly related to immunization (rubella shot).

There are more deaf babies receive CI and develop in oral language today - I think it is sad too.
 
I had conversation with my friend about babies with disabilities/medical condition, so he shared same agreement as mine.

Personally, I found any mothers want their baby aborted because of disabilities, is very sad but I believe in mother's choice because it is her body.

FYI, I'm pro-choice.

This thread became into pro-choice vs. pro-life argument with unnecessary statement, especially facepalm.

You can complain what you want but I don't care - it will risk to get this thread locked up.
 
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