Court of public opinion looms large in George Zimmerman murder trial

[Foxrac]

OK, for example, a food market employee hit you for no reason. You sue that food market and you win the settlement. Then you want to sue the employee who hit you. You will get nothing because you already got settled.

Reba is correct - see #800.

Both cases are separated.

 

[Jiro]

That was already settled. Didn't you read TXgolfer's post # 786 regarding that?

It's up to the homeowners association to sue him or kick him out if he still owns the place or do nothing. So that means TM's family can't sue GZ for wrongful death because they already got money from the homeowners association for wrongful death.

Settlement = money, otherwise no settlement = no money.

that's between Trayvon's family and HOA.... but not with Zimmerman.

edit - oh I see that it has been answered... oopsie!

 

[CrazyPaul]

Also, in that scenario, a criminal charge against the employee would be in order. That would be assault and battery, and would go to a criminal court, not a civil court. The civil action (suing for money) would be separate.

I remember reading that anyone can't file a lawsuit twice for the same reason. In other words, if a judge finds that they have already filed a lawsuit against one person or company, they can't file another lawsuit as long as it's for the same reason. A judge will reject that claim due to greed.

 

[Jiro]

I remember reading that anyone can't file a lawsuit twice for the same reason.

no. you're thinking of Double Jeopardy law.

a person cannot be prosecuted twice for same crime after acquittal. a person can be sued as many as they want lol.

 

[Reba]

I remember reading that anyone can't file a lawsuit twice for the same reason.

When suing against a corporation or an individual, if you read the actual complaints, you would probably find that the basis of each suit was different. One is for corporate responsibility, which usually refers to their culpability for providing the environment for whatever wrong thing happened. The other, for the individual, is for committing a specific act of wrong doing. Therefore, it's not the same reason for the complaint. It might be the same event but not the same reason.

It all depends on the various specifics.

 

[Reba]

I remember reading that anyone can't file a lawsuit twice for the same reason. In other words, if a judge finds that they have already filed a lawsuit against one person or company, they can't file another lawsuit as long as it's for the same reason. A judge will reject that claim due to greed.

I guess you added that sentence after my reply.

Anyway, I've never heard of a legal justification for rejecting a claim "due to greed." That's not a law.

Judges can reject complaints that are obviously frivolous or done just to be annoying and have no merit but "greed" is not a legal ground.

 

[CrazyPaul]

When suing against a corporation or an individual, if you read the actual complaints, you would probably find that the basis of each suit was different. One is for corporate responsibility, which usually refers to their culpability for providing the environment for whatever wrong thing happened. The other, for the individual, is for committing a specific act of wrong doing. Therefore, it's not the same reason for the complaint. It might be the same event but not the same reason.

It all depends on the various specifics.

TM's family won the settlement with the homeowners association for wrongful death after they filed a lawsuit. So can they file a lawsuit against GZ for the same reason, wrongful death?

 

[Foxrac]

TM's family won the settlement with the homeowners association for wrongful death after they filed a lawsuit. So can they file a lawsuit against GZ for the same reason, wrongful death?

Yes.

 

[Jiro]

TM's family won the settlement with the homeowners association for wrongful death after they filed a lawsuit. So can they file a lawsuit against GZ for the same reason, wrongful death?

didn't you learn anything? it's two separate entities.

HOA and Zimmerman.

 

[Tousi]

TM's family won the settlement with the homeowners association for wrongful death after they filed a lawsuit. So can they file a lawsuit against GZ for the same reason, wrongful death?

Yes, we are jumping from criminal to civil........see?

 

[jonnyghost]

TM's family won the settlement with the homeowners association for wrongful death after they filed a lawsuit. So can they file a lawsuit against GZ for the same reason, wrongful death?

You don't win a settlement. You win (or loose) a judgment. A settlement is a formal arrangement. Basically they did not admit any wrongdoing or liability but agreed to pay a lot of money to avoid litigation. It was most likely a business decision.

 

[rockin'robin]

Security preps for Zimmerman verdict.......

Police bracing for possible riots following Zimmerman verdict

JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -
As the fate of George Zimmerman gets that much closer to be in the jurors' hands, law enforcement and church and community leaders are on high alert.

There's been concern that no matter what the outcome is, whether Zimmerman is found guilty or not guilty, there will be public outcry from people who disagree.

The defense will make their closing arguments Friday morning. After that, Jury deliberations are expected to begin sometime in the afternoon. Thursday the judge ruled that jurors can consider a lesser charge of manslaughter, in addition to second-degree murder.

No matter what the jury decides, some people will be unhappy.

Many law enforcement and church agencies have set up a response plan. A South Florida Sheriff's Office released a public service announcement making a plea for people to not resort to violence, but police are still bracing for possible riots.

Florida authorities have a message as the verdict in the george zimmerman trial looms: "raise your voice, not your hands" if you're unhappy with the outcome.

Law enforcement agencies are anticipating the outcome of this very public and racially charged case is likely to disappoint people on one side or the other. That's why Channel 4's crime and safety analyst Ken Jefferson says they have to prepare now .

"Some are leaning this way, others are leaning another way so the police are on standby for that, they're ready for any type of civil unrest not only are they ready in Sanford, but other cities within the state of Florida are on high alert," said Jefferson.

Church leaders who have been given seats at the trial have pledged to use their influence in the community to stop any violence.

"They're getting the ministers involved, they're getting community leaders involved to say lets do this thing peacefully, whether we agree with it or not, it's our criminal justice system we have to give it a change," said Jefferson.

Jefferson says this type of anticipation in such a high profile case isn't unusual. He recalls this happening with the O.J. Simpson and Michael Jackson trials as well, it's just that this one is so close to home.

"Those seem to be so far away we don't really think about it serious, now it's here in our town or our state if you will, but it affects the entire state this has national implications in it of itself," said Jefferson.

Jefferson said most law enforcement agencies have what's called a Field Force Unit that's responsible for handling riots and protests any place a large group of people congregate with the possibility of violence. He said they train regularly and will be ready to respond should anything erupt after the verdict is read.

Security preps for Zimmerman verdict | News - Home

 

[whatdidyousay!]

You don't win a settlement. You win (or loose) a judgment. A settlement is a formal arrangement. Basically they did not admit any wrongdoing or liability but agreed to pay a lot of money to avoid litigation. It was most likely a business decision.

That is right. There was a case out my way where a woman got caught shopping lifting and she said when she was question by the store security guard he made a pass at her. The store wanted this all to go away and agreed on a settlement ,but it did not mean the store security guard was guilty.

 

[whatdidyousay!]

Source, please.

CNN news it was on TV . And I was right about Zimmerman getting out of his car, the neighborhood watch rules was posted during the state
closing argument and one of the rules was a person on watch was' not' leave their car , to only use their eyes and ears.

 

[Reba]

CNN news it was on TV . And I was right about Zimmerman getting out of his car, the neighborhood watch rules was posted during the state closing argument and one of the rules was a person on watch was' not' leave their car, to only use their eyes and ears.

Zimmerman wasn't "on watch" at the time; he was going to the store to shop, as a regular resident.

 

[TXgolfer]

So how does that work in the settlement? Will Zimmerman have to pay more than the other home owner?

Not in this settlement. The money will come from HOA funds, possibly insurance and a special assessment in HOA fees to all home owners within the assoc. Some HOAs vary fees by size of property so technically he could pay a little more or even little less than everyone else. That is assuming he stayed/stays in the neighborhood.

 

[TXgolfer]

I remember reading that anyone can't file a lawsuit twice for the same reason. In other words, if a judge finds that they have already filed a lawsuit against one person or company, they can't file another lawsuit as long as it's for the same reason. A judge will reject that claim due to greed.

No, the judge will allow the suit against GZ. The Martin family won't get anything because GZ doesn't have anything. They will still sue to get a judgement in case GZ should make money from a book deal or something like that. GZ will probably spend the rest of his life living off of gifts which the Martin family can't touch in most cases.

 

[TXgolfer]

CNN news it was on TV . And I was right about Zimmerman getting out of his car, the neighborhood watch rules was posted during the state
closing argument and one of the rules was a person on watch was' not' leave their car , to only use their eyes and ears.

Neighborhood watch rules are not laws.

 

[Reba]

Not in this settlement. The money will come from HOA funds, possibly insurance and a special assessment in HOA fees to all home owners within the assoc. Some HOAs vary fees by size of property so technically he could pay a little more or even little less than everyone else. That is assuming he stayed/stays in the neighborhood.

It will probably come out of the HOA insurance. Our HOA was sued a few years ago, and insurance covered the settlement money. It did not affect our dues in any way.

 

[TXgolfer]

It will probably come out of the HOA insurance. Our HOA was sued a few years ago, and insurance covered the settlement money. It did not affect our dues in any way.

That is what I am thinking too. I doubt the settlement was for a figure larger than the insurance would cover.

ETA: Possibly in my previous post should have been "probably"