Court of public opinion looms large in George Zimmerman murder trial

CNN - Simpson: I won't work to pay the Goldmans - July 11, 1997
LOS ANGELES (CNN) -- O.J. Simpson says he has no intention of working to pay off a $33.5 million judgment against him for the 1994 deaths of his ex-wife, Nicole Brown Simpson, and Ronald Goldman.

In an interview with Greta Van Susteren on CNN's "Burden of Proof," Simpson said he plans instead to pay his living expenses and those of his children with his $25,000 monthly pensions, which are protected from the judgment.

"I'm not going to go and work and give my money to Fred Goldman," said Simpson, referring to Ronald Goldman's father.
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Also Monday, Simpson's mansion in the Brentwood section of Los Angeles, valued at $3 million, will go on the auction block. The home was foreclosed upon after Simpson got behind in his mortgage payments.

"I've accepted that I've already lost it," Simpson said. "It's a house that I've been in for over 20 years, and just about every plant and flower and tree that you see on the property, I planted. And Nicole and I put a lot of effort in various designs.

"Part of me, you know, will miss it, obviously," he said. "But life goes on, and I believe that in some areas, the move will be good because I'll leave some memories."

Simpson said he has not yet found a new home for himself and the two children under his custody from his marriage with Nicole.

But he said he has been looking in the Los Angeles area, where he plans to stay until his legal appeals are finished. Simpson wants to be resettled before the children go back to school in the fall.

Asked if he might declare bankruptcy to protect his assets, Simpson said, "If I have to, I will."
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however.... 11 USC § 523 - Exceptions to discharge | Title 11 - Bankruptcy | U.S. Code | LII / Legal Information Institute

again... broke as heck! or just smart with money.
 
Reba said:
So, he didn't lose his kids. Also, he didn't lose his house as a result of the murder but as a result of his going to prison for his other crime.

Which brings up another point about Zimmerman. Even if he is acquitted of murder, the Martin's parents can sue him in civil court for wrongful death.
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Martin's parents could sues all the neighbors that where apart of the neighborhood watch as they used Zimmerman as the captain of the watch and GZ was a walking time bomb . You can hear it on the 911 call and GZ said in one statement that HE walked up to TM , so that would make GZ the aggressive person.
 
whatdidyousay! said:
Martin's parents could sues all the neighbors that where apart of the neighborhood watch as they used Zimmerman as the captain of the watch and GZ was a walking time bomb . You can hear it on the 911 call and GZ said in one statement that HE walked up to TM , so that would make GZ the aggressive person.
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They already did.

Report: Trayvon Martin's family settles with homeowners association - CNN.com

It doesn't matter if GZ was the aggressor.

776.041 - - 2011 Florida Statutes - The Florida Senate
 
Jiro said:
actually it does which I've already posted CCW information from Florida State Police.
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I will let people judge for themselves. I have posted the actual Florida statute. Here it is again.

776.041 Use of force by aggressor.—The justification described in the preceding sections of this chapter is not available to a person who:
(1) Is attempting to commit, committing, or escaping after the commission of, a forcible felony; or
(2) Initially provokes the use of force against himself or herself, unless:
(a) Such force is so great that the person reasonably believes that he or she is in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm and that he or she has exhausted every reasonable means to escape such danger other than the use of force which is likely to cause death or great bodily harm to the assailant; or
(b) In good faith, the person withdraws from physical contact with the assailant and indicates clearly to the assailant that he or she desires to withdraw and terminate the use of force, but the assailant continues or resumes the use of force.
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Interesting point discussed on CNN, the fact that GZs statements vary slightly actually makes them more credible. People often remember details differently as time passes. They said when a story stays the same it comes off as contrived and rehearsed causing Red Flags.
 
update news

George Zimmerman Could Face Life or 25 Years Without Parole
George Zimmerman Could Face Life or 25 Years Without Parole - Yahoo!

'He assumed Trayvon was a criminal and that is why we are here': Prosecution make closing arguments in Zimmerman trial after jury are told they can go for manslaughter
George Zimmerman trial: Jury asked to consider lesser charges of manslaughter and third-degree murder | Mail Online

Zimmerman Was 'Wannabe Cop' - Prosecutor
Zimmerman Was 'Wannabe Cop' - Prosecutor

Pressing for murder verdict, prosecution uses Zimmerman's words against him
Prosecution uses Zimmerman's own words against him - CNN.com

George Zimmerman trial: Prosecutor blasts Zimmerman's self-defense claim during closing arguments
George Zimmerman trial: Prosecutor blasts Zimmerman's self-defense claim during closing arguments - Crimesider - CBS News

if he will faces 25 years or rest of his lifes in prison judge will ruled!
 
SMH.... Just like I said earlier...


The legal watchdog Judicial Watch released an audio recording Thursday of a Department of Justice staffer urging Sanford, Fla., city officials and the minority advocacy group Dream Defenders to seek justice for Trayvon Martin, because “if a community perceives that there’s something wrong in the black community, there’s something wrong.”
“CRS is an arm of the department that we call the Peacemakers,” Thomas Battles, regional director of the DOJ's Community Relations Service, said at a meeting at the Shiloh Church on April 19, 2012. “We work with communities where there is real or perceived racial tensions.”

“…When Trayvon happened, for many of us, it was the proverbial straw that broke the camel’s back,” he continued. “We had grown up in a state and environment where race is a way of life … We’re not from Sanford, but what Sanford represented to us was the very real problems going around this state and this country. We wanted to figure out how could we stand in solidarity, and how could we make this about not just justice for Trayvon, but using this moment and using the opportunity to honor his memory, to honor his spirit by working to bring down the various structures and the various systems that allow something like this to happen.”
It was reported Wednesday, according to documents obtained through the Freedom of Information Act, that from March 25 to April 12, CRS spent roughly $5,000 upon being deployed to Sanford to work marches, demonstrations, and rallies “related to the shooting and death of an African-American teen by a neighborhood watch captain.”
The findings, Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton said, “detail the extraordinary intervention by the Justice Department in the pressure campaign leading to the prosecution of George Zimmerman. My guess is that most Americans would rightly object to taxpayers paying government employees to help organize racially-charged demonstrations.”


Read more: 'Justice for Trayvon': Audio released of DOJ member urging action against George Zimmerman - Washington Times
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whatdidyousay! said:
Martin's parents could sues all the neighbors that where apart of the neighborhood watch as they used Zimmerman as the captain of the watch and GZ was a walking time bomb . You can hear it on the 911 call and GZ said in one statement that HE walked up to TM , so that would make GZ the aggressive person.
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Source, please.
 
Jiro said:
that's up to court to decide.
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That was already settled. Didn't you read TXgolfer's post # 786 regarding that?

It's up to the homeowners association to sue him or kick him out if he still owns the place or do nothing. So that means TM's family can't sue GZ for wrongful death because they already got money from the homeowners association for wrongful death.

Settlement = money, otherwise no settlement = no money.
 
CrazyPaul said:
That was already settled. Didn't you read TXgolfer's post # 786 regarding that?

It's up to the homeowners association to sue him or kick him out if he still owns the place or do nothing. So that means TM's family can't sue GZ for wrongful death because they already got money for that from the homeowners association.
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No, TM's family can sue GZ for wrongful death.

The case between HOA and GZ are separated.
 
Foxrac said:
No, TM's family can sue GZ for wrongful death.

The case between HOA and GZ are separated.
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OK, for example, a food market employee hit you for no reason. You sue that food market and you win the settlement. Then you want to sue the employee who hit you. You will get nothing because you already got settled.
 
CrazyPaul said:
OK, for example, a food market employee hit you for no reason. You sue that food market and you win the settlement. Then you want to sue the employee who hit you. You will get nothing because you already got settled.
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Not necessarily.

The store and the individual employee can be considered two separate entities. It also depends on the terms of the settlement.

The reason that people prefer to sue corporations rather than individuals is that corporations have deeper pockets. That is, the plaintiffs can recover more monetary damages from a corporation than from an individual, in most circumstances.
 
CrazyPaul said:
OK, for example, a food market employee hit you for no reason. You sue that food market and you win the settlement. Then you want to sue the employee who hit you. You will get nothing because you already got settled.
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Also, in that scenario, a criminal charge against the employee would be in order. That would be assault and battery, and would go to a criminal court, not a civil court. The civil action (suing for money) would be separate.
 
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