Court of public opinion looms large in George Zimmerman murder trial

Reba said:
She didn't say "forgive." (See Jiro's post #210 with the transcript.)
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That's why I said (roughly) I couldn't remember the exact phrasing. And you are correct, the actual phrasing benefits GZ more.

FYI, that is "Live Blogging" and not an actual transcript. But you are correct in the phrasing.
 
Reba said:
Not exactly. He said it didn't sound like him. It's like looking at a candid picture of yourself that you didn't know was taken at a stressful moment, looking at it and saying, "That doesn't even look like me!" That doesn't mean it is not you but that it seems out of the normal for you.


Because that is normal in court. Defendants often decline testifying in court. Their lawyers often advise against it because they don't want to expose their clients to cross examination.

We don't know yet if he will testify.


It's Zimmerman's (and all defendants') Constitutional right to decline testifying.
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and I feel this is wrong. Zimmerman should be questioned just like the other people where. I know why Zimmerman is not taking the stand , I just think the Constitutional is wrong on this. When a person kill a person he should be questions in court ,he should not have more rights that the dead person had.
 
whatdidyousay! said:
Sanford, Fla. Police Officers Testify in Zimmerman Trial - Officer.com




This web site said the cops told Zimmerman when he got out of this truck to follow TM "he did not need to do that" So the cops did not want Zimmerman following TM by foot . If is the first time I read when the cops said this to Zimmerman . And this web said a cop asked Zimmerman why didn't he tell TM why he was following him. After reading this web site I really feel Zimmerman is guilty , he called TM a suspect and TM had not commit any crime.
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What you are describing only makes his actions "I'll advised" not illegal. So far they have been unable to show any wrongdoing.
 
whatdidyousay! said:
and I feel this is wrong. Zimmerman should be questioned just like the other people where.
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The other people were witnesses, not defendants.

I know why Zimmerman is not taking the stand ,
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We don't know yet whether or not he will take the stand.

I just think the Constitutional is wrong on this.
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The Constitution is correct; it protects innocent people from self-incrimination in addition to the guilty people self incriminating themselves.

When a person kill a person he should be questions in court ,he should not have more rights that the dead person had.
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Unfortunately, dead people have no rights.
 
I just watched Anderson Cooper 360 on CNN. It mentioned that TM's mother may testify and 5 out of 6 female jurors are mothers. It may not look good for the defense. I think during jury selection, the defense made a mistake to choose women who are mothers as jurors because they may be sympathetic for TM's mother if she takes a witness stand.
 
CrazyPaul said:
I just watched Anderson Cooper 360 on CNN. It mentioned that TM's mother may testify and 5 out of 6 female jurors are mothers. It may not look good for the defense. I think during jury selection, the defense made a mistake to choose women who are mothers as jurors because they may be sympathetic for TM's mother if she takes a witness stand.
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If she testifies that would be awesome for the defense most likely. She wasn't a witness to the events so the only thing she could testify to really is Trayvon's "character." If she does that, it opens the door to all of the bad stuff that Trayvon did.
 
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TXgolfer said:
CrazyPaul said:
I just watched Anderson Cooper 360 on CNN. It mentioned that TM's mother may testify and 5 out of 6 female jurors are mothers. It may not look good for the defense. I think during jury selection, the defense made a mistake to choose women who are mothers as jurors because they may be sympathetic for TM's mother if she takes a witness stand.
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If she testifies that would be awesome for the defense most likely. She wasn't a witness to the events so the only thing she could testify to really is Trayvon's "character." If she does that, it opens the door to all of the bad stuff that Trayvon did.
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The bad stuff he did? How is that going to be relevant to why he was killed? He was not commiting a crime at the time GM killled him.
 
TXgolfer said:
If she testifies that would be awesome for the defense most likely. She wasn't a witness to the events so the only thing she could testify to really is Trayvon's "character." If she does that, it opens the door to all of the bad stuff that Trayvon did.
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I think the judge doesn't allow both the defense lawyer and prosecutor to bring up TM's and GZ's backgrounds respectively.

The show mentioned that TM's mother may testify to the screamings in 911 recordings since she said it was TM's voice to prove that he needed help.

If she will testify, GZ's father who said it was GZ's voice should testify, too. That way the jury will decide which side to believe.
 
Babyblue said:
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The bad stuff he did? How is that going to be relevant to why he was killed? He was not commiting a crime at the time GM killled him.
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Before GZ shot him, TM assaulted him, therefore he was committing a crime. What's more, as GZ told the police, TM said to him "You are going to die tonight". I definitely believe that.
 
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whatdidyousay! said:
and I feel this is wrong. Zimmerman should be questioned just like the other people where. I know why Zimmerman is not taking the stand , I just think the Constitutional is wrong on this. When a person kill a person he should be questions in court ,he should not have more rights that the dead person had.
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Look up"inalienable rights".
 
Tousi said:
Look up"inalienable rights".
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I understand all of that ! I just happen to disagree with it.


I said I feel Zimmerman should have to take the stand . The person that committed the crime get treated with kids gloves in court and that make me sick! The victims did not get treated that way . I feel we should stop pampering people on trial then just maybe a person will think before they decides to kill a person or commit any crime . I think the court it too soft on the person on trial and I am talking about every trial not just Zimmerman.

I KNOW why Zimmerman does not have to take the stand . But I do not have to agree with it.
 
CrazyPaul said:
Before GZ shot him, TM assaulted him, therefore he was committing a crime. What's more, as GZ told the police, TM said to him "You are going to die tonight". I definitely believe that.
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You should not go after suspicious person so it is very highly chance that you will die from shot or beat up to death because criminals don't like witness, so they use to kill witness to cover up.

It is part of common sense.
 
Foxrac said:
You should not go after suspicious person so it is very highly chance that you will die from shot or beat up to death because criminals don't like witness, so they use to kill witness to cover up.

It is part of common sense.
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Him? I highly doubt it.
 
Babyblue said:
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The bad stuff he did? How is that going to be relevant to why he was killed? He was not commiting a crime at the time GM killled him.
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The "good stuff" isn't relevant either...
 
CrazyPaul said:
Before GZ shot him, TM assaulted him, therefore he was committing a crime. What's more, as GZ told the police, TM said to him "You are going to die tonight". I definitely believe that.
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I think you got that backwards. GZ profiled and stalked TM. Therefore GM was committing the crime. Even after the 911 operator told him to stop following him. But believe what you want.
 
whatdidyousay! said:
I understand all of that ! I just happen to disagree with it.
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I doubt that you would disagree with it if you or a loved one were the defendant.

That's why courts follow the procedures of the Constitution. Emotions and opinions are not allowed to control court proceedings.

I said I feel Zimmerman should have to take the stand . The person that committed the crime get treated with kids gloves in court and that make me sick!
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One clarification.

Until a verdict of guilty, the defendant is not determined to be a "person that committed the crime." In fact, it also has to be proven that a crime was indeed committed.

The victims did not get treated that way . I feel we should stop pampering people on trial then just maybe a person will think before they decides to kill a person or commit any crime . I think the court it too soft on the person on trial and I am talking about every trial not just Zimmerman.
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Following the Constitution is not pampering or being soft on the defendant. It works both ways. It also prevents innocent people from being mistreated and railroaded into hasty guilty verdicts.

I KNOW why Zimmerman does not have to take the stand . But I do not have to agree with it.
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No, you don't have to agree with it but you have to accept it, just as I (and others) have to accept verdicts that we don't agree with. However, in this case, they haven't even come down with a verdict so there's nothing to agree or disagree with yet.
 
Babyblue said:
I agree. The only thing is relevant is what happened that night and one person is dead and can not tell his side. Sad isn't it.
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Yeah, I think there are surveillance cameras but they had problems at that time, I am not sure. Maybe it was another incident.
 
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