Confederate Flag

What does Confederate Rebel Flag means to you?

  • A symbol of Civil War History

    Votes: 41 25.8%

  • A symbol of racist

    Votes: 44 27.7%

  • A symbol of Heritage (Civil War Veteran Generation)

    Votes: 60 37.7%

  • Others - please specify

    Votes: 14 8.8%
  • Total voters
    159
Liebling:-))) said:
Exactly that´s what I thought so.

Rules is Rules... !!!
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Yes...

one :topic: question

I wonder is Germany schools is the same way - forbid showing Nazi symbols?
 
Calvin said:
ah allright :ty: :)


It's not illegal to show Confederate here, but for school yes it's against rules.
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As you probably know that my high school were against the Confederate symbols but the bunch of rednecks and cowboys wear the confederate symbols on my school's campus, the teachers and principals doesn't look seem care about it. :dunno:
 
Texan Guy said:
As you probably know that my high school were against the Confederate symbols but the bunch of rednecks and cowboys wear the confederate symbols on my school's campus, the teachers and principals doesn't look seem care about it. :dunno:
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Yeah maybe some schools are easy with it, most are strict. Anyone know how long has the ban took effect since? I'm not sure if it was a big deal in the 90's and before the school violence spiked. :dunno:
 
Calvin said:
ah allright :ty: :)


It's not illegal to show Confederate here, but for school yes it's against rules.
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Not at my high school, also not in other high school in southeast states that I went during half of my senior year.
 
voted heritage, since thats what it means too me I have 3 of the four confederate flags, the battle flag and the Naval Jack, so five flags in all wooot woot
 
Confederate is power evil not easy deaf and hard hearing terrior south waring cause
people you can't.:evil:
 
The Confederate Flag: Hate or Heritage?

A debate has been raging on Associated Content and in Society over the Confederate Flag. Does it represent heritage or racism? The answer is simple. The Confederate Flag has been used to represent both. The Confederate flag represents a geographical region: The South. It represents trucks with lift kits, the "Dukes of Hazzard," fishing, hunting, grits, barbecue, the use of the word "y'all," and the broad spectrum of Southern cultural identity. It represents Ole Miss and Lynyrd Skynyrd. It represents the history of an Army that bravely fought to defend their homeland and their families against an invader. It represents the memory of solemn, sacred, battlefields where Americans from the North and South fought and fell. Unfortunately, the Confederate Flag has also been used to represent racism. In the 1950s, segregationists added the Confederate Flag to some Southern state flags to make a point about segregations. Unfortunately, too many people sat idly by and let the Klan, segregationists, and other hate groups use the Confederate Flag in an effort to intimidate people. In the eyes of many, a symbol of heritage became a symbol of hate.

To me the Confederate Flag is an exuberant expression of Redneck Culture. Personally, I don't think that the old Battle Flag of the Confederacy is a symbol of hate, in fact, I'd really love to have red Dodge Charger with a Confederate Flag painted boldly on the roof. I don't and I won't. First of all, I'm forty and I can't climb through the window like they did on the "Dukes of Hazzard." Second, I have a respectable office job and such a display would be frowned upon in the corporate world. But, most importantly, I'm aware that many people are offended by the Confederate Flag and I simply don't want to be rude. As a Southerner, I place value politeness, hospitality, and courtesy. In my mind, it would be impolite. I'd rather see the flag in just a few select sacred places like battlefields, cemeteries, biker bars, and Southern rock concerts.
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The Confederate Flag: Hate or Heritage?

He has a good example of what the flag represents. It's just sad to see that flag is being abused by such groups which takes the wrong message. I just see the flag that represents history that Americans fought against Americans. Like I posted earlier in this thread, there is always controversy surrounding the Confederate flag.
 
Calvin said:
The Confederate Flag: Hate or Heritage?

He has a good example of what the flag represents. It's just sad to see that flag is being abused by such groups which takes the wrong message. I just see the flag that represents history that Americans fought against Americans. Like I posted earlier in this thread, there is always controversy surrounding the Confederate flag.
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Interesting story.

I use confederate flag as southern pride and heritage, however I know some people got offended but really don't care because they don't understand and rather not to discuss if any people want ask after got offended, this flag isn't used for any hate.

I noticed mostly rural/suburb blacks are more tolerate to confederate flag since most urban blacks aren't.
 
Foxrac said:
Interesting story.

I use confederate flag as southern pride and heritage, however I know some people got offended but really don't care because they don't understand and rather not to discuss if any people want ask after got offended, this flag isn't used for any hate.

I noticed mostly rural/suburb blacks are more tolerate to confederate flag since most urban blacks aren't.
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I don't think that statement would hold up to scrutiny. For one thing, it is not just blacks that object to the use of the Confederate flag.
 
jillio said:
I don't think that statement would hold up to scrutiny. For one thing, it is not just blacks that object to the use of the Confederate flag.
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I was speaking of my experience in my state, I had already noticed by myself.

I do have some black friends and they don't have problem with confederate flag.
 
Foxrac said:
I was speaking of my experience in my state, I had already noticed by myself.

I do have some black friends and they don't have problem with confederate flag.
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Many blacks don't have a problem with the use of the Confederate flag. It is not the symbol of the flag that causes objections. It is the behavior of some indviduals who use the flag intentionally as a symbol of their racist attitudes. It is not the flag, it is the individual's intent.
In those cases, you can take away the Confederate flag, but you still have a racist.
 
jillio said:
Many blacks don't have a problem with the use of the Confederate flag. It is not the symbol of the flag that causes objections. It is the behavior of some indviduals who use the flag intentionally as a symbol of their racist attitudes. It is not the flag, it is the individual's intent.
In those cases, you can take away the Confederate flag, but you still have a racist.
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How I'm still racist?
 
Foxrac said:
How I'm still racist?
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I didn't say you were. I said some individuals use the Confederate flag as a symbol for their racist attitudes. Forbidding those individuals to display the Conferderate flag doesn't take away their racism.
 
jillio said:
I didn't say you were. I said some individuals use the Confederate flag as a symbol for their racist attitudes. Forbidding those individuals to display the Conferderate flag doesn't take away their racism.
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Ok, I got your point.
 
jillio said:
Many blacks don't have a problem with the use of the Confederate flag. It is not the symbol of the flag that causes objections. It is the behavior of some indviduals who use the flag intentionally as a symbol of their racist attitudes. It is not the flag, it is the individual's intent.
In those cases, you can take away the Confederate flag, but you still have a racist.
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that is a good thought-provoking statement. Although I think of it slightly different - I look at what the Confederate Flag stood for and the historical background of it. I'm surprised that many black people don't have a problem with it. I guess that's something I learned today.

Yes I understand nowadays Confederate Flag represent the heritage of the Southern USA but the fact is too strong to overlook - the people behind this flag fought to retain slavery in bloody Civil War.
 
Calvin said:
The Confederate Flag: Hate or Heritage?

He has a good example of what the flag represents. It's just sad to see that flag is being abused by such groups which takes the wrong message. I just see the flag that represents history that Americans fought against Americans. Like I posted earlier in this thread, there is always controversy surrounding the Confederate flag.
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Yes, There will always be controversy regarding of the Confederate Flag. Unfortunately, the attitude will always portray it otherwise. The Confederate Flag represent the Southern States - not only because of the racism but it also represent part of this country for once and for why they defended their land.

This may be a little bit off the topic - but in a sense it is kinda related - Let's look at it this way; The GBLT community has adopted the Rainbow colored flags or whatanot as their symbol and I don't think I've ever seen an objection to this or a controversy related to this. So why should it be any different for the Confederate Flag?

The Confederate Flag does not represent racism at all -- but yes - there are a lot of misunderstanding to it, since there are other hate-crime groups that adopts this view, unfortunately.

Civil War will always remain to be one of the most misunderstood war of all times. They say it's because of the slavery stance but that is not entirely the main reason. The other reason is - Economic aspect because the south were very large on cotton and among other things as well.
 
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