'Company Policy: We are not hiring until Obama is gone'

[Banjo]

Sure, why?

Just curious, not many are familiar with the history of this particular historical figure.

 

[Banjo]

You are right. The healthcare crisis could have easily been prevented by couples first making sure BOTH had insurance on themself and a financial foundation BEFORE having a child. Which means as soon as that child is born and for childhood the PARENTS carry the responsibility of not only the childs health insurance but for themselves also.
NOT the government! It is called FAMILY PLANNING, something tooooooo few people have heard of.

Then there would be no children and America would die.

 

[Beowulf]

Hmmm, a "small business" must have a minimum of 60 employees to start "worrying" about providing health care insurance for its workers. If you cannot cut that mustard, you do not deserve to be running a business.

 

[kokonut]

The healthcare crisis could easily had been prevented in the first place. But the government had to let capitalists to put money first, people second. Thanks to all of the lobbyists over the years, many, many Americans now have to suffer and generations to come will be paying for their mistakes.

Anyway, the key to being a good business owner is to know what you are doing. You don't hire people if you know you cannot afford them. Real business owners don't whine about not being able to hire people, they don't seek attention by whining about how mean the government is and how they prevent you from hiring people. If you need help but cannot afford, you have to take a good look at what your financial status is and see what can be done about it. That's why people have financial consultants too as well. A good business owner should have one.

No one is holding a gun to their heads. Either you hire or you don't.

There are a lot of outside factors involved why some businesses cannot be sustained in the kind of business they are in. I can say the same thing about Solyndra and many other similar companies and how they've begged to get more money from the Federal govt to help keep their companies afloat. This small business owner guy is making a point. He's not asking for a handout or get one of the few thousand waivers doled out to companies to be temporarily exempt from Obamacare. He's gonna wait until the situation improves just like thousands of other companies who are doing the same thing. They are faced with uncertainty over the next few years and are not hiring. Many were forced to reduced their staff to cut expenses to anticipate the changes coming in 2014. Just not the lobbying (which should be banned) but the passing of a very, very, very bad health care legislation without the proper input from everybody in Congress.

 

[Beowulf]

It'll be four years before he hires again? Hmmm, I think I will start one in his place.

 

[kokonut]

Just curious, not many are familiar with the history of this particular historical figure.

He was a member of a 1605 plot to blow up the British House of Lords. The mask came from a comic book, V for Vendetta, which which was eventually made into a movie. The movie’s character who wore a Fawkes mask never removes it while he kills policemen by the score with hate, and bombed landmark buildings in a London of the future. A plot that takes place in a imaginary place where people lead dehumanized and fearful lives . Anonymous, Wikileaks, and anarchists around the world have adopted this mask as a symbol. Julian Assange, of Wikileaks, wore one of these masks at Occupy London Stock Exchange recently, too.

 

[Banjo]

Hmmm, a "small business" must have a minimum of 60 employees to start "worrying" about providing health care insurance for its workers. If you cannot cut that mustard, you do not deserve to be running a business.

Right. People worry too much.

 

[Jiro]

He was a member of a 1605 plot to blow up the British House of Lords. The mask came from a comic book, V for Vendetta, which which was eventually made into a movie. The movie’s character who wore a Fawkes mask never removes it while he kills policemen by the score with hate, and bombed landmark buildings in a London of the future. A plot that takes place in a imaginary place where people lead dehumanized and fearful lives . Anonymous, Wikileaks, and anarchists around the world have adopted this mask as a symbol. Julian Assange, of Wikileaks, wore one of these masks at Occupy London Stock Exchange recently, too.

wow. you really are aiming to be the most interesting man in the world.

 

[Jiro]

Let me start with Obamacare. The government forcing Americans to purchase goverment run healthcare.

no they are not forcing you to buy government-run insurance. since you're an airport security... that means you already have healthcare insurance. you are not required to buy government-run insurance. beside - do you realize that millions of Americans are already using government-run insurance? it's called Medicaid/Medicare. Military vets are using it too.

The bail out or buy out by the government of the banks and car industry.

that would be Republican Party

Failing to defend laws on record.

that would be Bush Administration. the worst offender in the history.

Spending trillions but refusing to create or allow job growth such as the pipeline.

that would be Republican Party which favors spending trillions to the riches by "trickling it down to the poor" tactic.

Telling the military how to handle religious matters.

eh?

Bad mouthing our country abroad.

eh ok

Desiring to take money from the rich and supposedly give to the poor. Overtaxing the rich.

I find it comical and puzzling that you and poor Republican voters consistently defend the riches when they have been getting richer while you're getting poorer. you do realize that the riches haven't been "overtaxed" or "taxed" for past several years? Do you realize that for the past few decades, the riches have been taking your money and giving it to themselves and their kids?

Too many new business regulations.

but... this mess was due to too many deregulations. look at what it brought us.

An over abundance of Czars, for what I don't know?

are you talking about Bush? That's what he did with Homeland Security and Patriot Act.

Destroying the morale of our military by repealing don't ask. How's that for starters.

but according to poll, majority of military did not care.

Currently I support Howard Cain for president as he has not been so much of a politician but more of a successful businessman in the past and I like his thoughts and ideas on reform. The only other canidate that I might support would be Ron Paul but I haven't heard his stance as much or as strongly as Cain's. I think he may be too radical of a change just yet for America? I also like Michelle Bachman as I think she makes good sense and I align myself with her beliefs. Unfortunately I don't think she will make a come back.

These are just my take and opinions. We all have our own don't we. America needs our prayers and strong support to recover.

Obama’s Regulations Killing Businesses…and Jobs « FactReal

oic

 

[kokonut]

Minimum is 50 employees but that's beside the point.

I've stated repeatedly that many are not hiring because of the uncertainty of Obamacare starting in 2014. For small businesses they would be hit with $2,000 per worker penalty for not offering coverage once the number hits 50 or more employees. Small business owners recognize the disparity in Obamacare plan and are very troubled by it.

Even if a business does offer a ‘qualified plan,’ it still might be fined just as much. Ironically, the fine for businesses that don’t offer coverage is $2,000 per employee… and the fine for a business that does offer coverage is $3,000 per employee, plus the cost they’re paying for coverage.

Small Business Owners Speak Out Against ObamaCare

Like I said, Obamacare is bad for businesses because it's bad planning in the first place. It creates this dark cloud of economic uncertainty for thousands of small businesses which is America's economic engine and growth.

Now, tell me, why the need for HHS to dole out some 1,500 waivers that would exempt companies and unions from the minimum annual cap on the benefits amount and let those companies and unions keep their existing plans until 2014? Why? Isn't that a handout, too? Isn't that begging, too? Isn't that whining, too? But what's interesting is that we don't know exactly the criteria required in order to get these waivers. What were the conditions mandated for the approval and rejection? Even in the era of supreme "transparency" and continued FOIA requests, the HHS is strangely and curiously quiet about those questions being asked. Why the need to waive the law for 3.4 million Americans thru those waivers doled out?

 

[kokonut]

Right. People worry too much.

Until you actually own and run a business with employees I'd say people wouldn't know what worrying is like for an owner when it comes to trying to keep the company alive while trying to turn a profit and keep their employees knowing that they depend on you and the company for their livelihoods.

 

[Jiro]

Until you actually own and run a business with employees I'd say people wouldn't know what worrying is like for an owner when it comes to trying to keep the company alive while trying to turn a profit and keep their employees knowing that they depend on you and the company for their livelihoods.

so how many employees did this guy have before Obama Administration?

 

[Banjo]

Until you actually own and run a business with employees I'd say people wouldn't know what worrying is like for an owner when it comes to trying to keep the company alive while trying to turn a profit and keep their employees knowing that they depend on you and the company for their livelihoods.

Again, this is not about me.

If you run a company with over 50 employees and you are not providing health benefits, you are an idiot.

 

[kokonut]

Again, this is not about me.

If you run a company with over 50 employees and you are not providing health benefits, you are an idiot.

Explain to me again the need to dole out 1,500 waivers to companies that obviously have more than 50 employees. That's a lot idiots out there. Care to explain?

 

[Banjo]

Explain to me again the need to dole out 1,500 waivers to companies that obviously have more than 50 employees. That's a lot idiots out there. Care to explain?

Like I said, if you are running a company with over 50 employees and you are not providing health benefits one way or another, you are an idiot.

 

[Beowulf]

Like I said, if you are running a company with over 50 employees and you are not providing health benefits one way or another, you are an idiot.

That is absolutely correct.

 

[kokonut]

Like I said, if you are running a company with over 50 employees and you are not providing health benefits one way or another, you are an idiot.

So, Obama's an idiot to allow the doling out of those waivers then? HHS was wrong to dole out waivers? And that all those 1,500 companies who got their waivers should tough it out like the rest of the businesses and own up to getting the proper health benefits?

 

[Banjo]

So, Obama's an idiot to allow the doling out of those waivers then? HHS was wrong to dole out waivers? And that all those 1,500 companies who got their waivers should tough it out like the rest of the businesses and own up to getting the proper health benefits?

If you are running a company with over 50 employees and you cannot afford to provide health benefits, it means one thing, you have too many employees. My bet is that a good number of business owners have bought liability insurance, yet provide nothing to their employees.

I am often dubious of people who claim that they want to hire people provided that they are able to afford them. They only say that to build up their reputation. It's quite simple, you don't hire people if you cannot afford them.

 

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[deafskeptic]

Do you know the history of Guy Fawkes?

Or even the movie V for Vendetta :P