Cochlear decison

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shushugah said:
Awwww, :( I like them furry trolls, what if it's a deaf troll? :P No one here has ever discussed anything beyond Oral or ASL, what about TSL??? Haters gonna hate, but this sucks, :(
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TSL? Total Communication?
 
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It's about invalidation. People shouldn't be subjected to it. That's when I speak up.
 
Shu, go home and be a family man. ;)
 
DAMN IT!! Why can't I just be a moronic hypocrite?? :( (Im in class now...and it's dead boring, zzzz....)
 
Beach girl said:
Every conversation along these lines seems to end up in a "let's tell Grendel just how WRONG she is" thread, virtually always from people who made a different choice for themselves and/or their children.
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Nobody has said that Grendel made the wrong choice for her child. The only thing any of us have done is offer corrections when she and others provide false or misleading information. I would expect anybody to do the same for me. It's nothing personal.
 
shushugah said:
Yay!! Adults fighting for pages and pages and pages, when they could have used that time to bond with family, meet friendly people, perhaps help new users on AD even. These threads serve little purpose, because it's the same people every time, and no new comer is going to want to read any of these comment fights, :P

Let's all just cool it, go to a friendlier thread and or do something more meaningful other than repeating the same arguments over and over again. Everyone pretty much had a chance to say their fair exchange of words, let's just end it here, and hold hands virtually and sing/sign (love how it's same letters...) Kumbaya!! :D

Jilio, dunno if you can, but is there a way to Lock this thread?[/QUOTE]

Yes, Jillio...can you lock this thread and ban many of us? That would be a great idea!
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shel90 said:
shushugah said:
Yay!! Adults fighting for pages and pages and pages, when they could have used that time to bond with family, meet friendly people, perhaps help new users on AD even. These threads serve little purpose, because it's the same people every time, and no new comer is going to want to read any of these comment fights, :P

Let's all just cool it, go to a friendlier thread and or do something more meaningful other than repeating the same arguments over and over again. Everyone pretty much had a chance to say their fair exchange of words, let's just end it here, and hold hands virtually and sing/sign (love how it's same letters...) Kumbaya!! :D

Jilio, dunno if you can, but is there a way to Lock this thread?[/QUOTE]

Yes, Jillio...can you lock this thread and ban many of us? That would be a great idea!
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:laugh2: In a perfect world, shel, in a perfect world.:giggle:
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rick48 said:
Amazing that you deign yourself the arbiter of who is and who is not cordial. Perhaps you should take a look in the mirror.

Anyway, having too good a night to let you and the rest of the anti-ci crowd get me down.

Have a nice life.
Rick
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Get over it rick. This is NOT the early '90's and the CI controversy has died down quite a bit. As a matter of fact, I predict in the next five-ten years the anti CIers will become as archic as the anti HAers.
Besides, you who claim that we're all anti CI, don't even understand. We're bringing up related issues, and then you guys get offended and claim we're anti CI.
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you may not be anti-CI but there are plenty of people here who post every single day that they are against childhood implantation. Way more than step up and say they support it!
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I wonder why.
 
faire_jour said:
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and that is not how therapy is done for young children today. You read books, tell stories and play. It is not drill.

one speech therpy session for my daughter when she was young was reading "brown bear, brown bear, what do you see" and then having her make the book herself and then having her "read" it back. It targeted auditory comprehension of two word phrases (her listening to the therapist say what was next and understanding and repeating it back.)

that is just the first example i came up with. There are many others. The point of therapy with young ci kids is learning language, not articulation. Most kids implanted young hear well enough to develop great artic without focus on it.
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It has been often stated on this forum that CIs do not provide perfect hearing. At most, they allow a deaf child/adult to be functionally HoH. If my memory serves me right, no one has yet denied this, even Hearing parents of CI-implanted children. However, it is necessary to point out that it has also been stated on this forum that even those with mild 'hearing loss' experience difficulties with articulation and also being in an oral only environment.
 
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actually, it was not teaching the language in that session but instead working on auditory comprehension of two critical elements in a relatively closed set (any color combined with any animal).
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Just the way you phrased your words has 'therapy session' written all over it.
 
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no, we are using language she already knows to help her build her auditory memory. She may have been able to understand those words in isolation but through that activity she had to listen for two critical elements within a longer phrase, which is much more difficult than picking out a single word from a closed set of, say, 6. We would use language that she already knew, receptively as well as expressively, to grow her auditory skills.
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You seem to have it down pat like a 'science' and then you say your daughter is learning 'naturally'. :hmm:
 
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it is not repeatative. Why do you not understand that? Each time it is a different activity, with the same goal, but done in different ways. Another game with the same goal could be putting together mr. Potato head. The therapist would ask the child to hand them a specific part with two critical elements embedded within a phrase. Same goal, different words and different game.
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I would be inclined to think that a professional therapist would not need 'how therapy works' spelled out to her.
 
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