CI--Deaf or Hearing?

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faire_jour said:
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you don't think i have heard that a thousand times in person? I have had Deaf people hug my husband and myself and cry and say what wonderful parents we are and what a delight my child is. It happened on july 4th when we ran into two different Deaf families at the festivites.
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never once in my life i have seen a Deaf family cry over how other parents are doing with their deaf kids.
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on my life, my hand to heaven, it totally happened.

it was an older Deaf woman who saw my husband playing with my daughter. She told us her story and explain that she had never had a relationship with her family because they could sign. They she hugged us and cried. She said that sometimes moms learn ASL but to see a father being able to communicate with his child was amazing.
 
faire_jour said:
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you are absolutely wrong. Just because this one site has a few angry, loud, posters does NOT mean it represents the real life Deaf community. In fact, you are the single most vicious person and you are HEARING...a fact you like to forget
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Oh yeah, we're angry because we point out the dumbasses here. I see how it is.
 
Shoshana said:
Dosent who you grow up, how you are raised help determine your identity?

Like, a deaf child raised only oral, with CI, speech, never signs, etc etc...would probley grow to identify him/herself as "hearing".

Where as a child who is raised with some Deaf culture (to whatever degree) would have a better understanding in being Deaf
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I grew up deaf, oral, never signed and never ever ever did I identify myself as hearing. I knew to my core I was not, and my life reminded me of that daily. Anyone who ever did identify themselves as hearing was in profound denial.

I never really identified myself as anything really, just told people I'm hard of hearing or hearing impaired as my mother told me to do.

It was in my 20s that I realized without a doubt that I'm DEAF and no amount of politically correctedness was going to whitewash that. I remember once i told someone I'm not hearing impaired, I'm deaf and she reacted like I said a bad word and attempted to correct me. I was so offended "how dare you, a hearing person, tell me what I am. I'm the one who's deaf, not you. It's up to me to decide, not you."

So, in my 20s, I stopped telling people I'm hard of hearing and started saying "I'm deaf." My father didn't like that very much but he stopped fussing about it when I took off my hearing aids and said "Dad, I can't hear anything. I'm deaf. I'm not an old person who's lost a bit of hearing, I'm stone cold flat out deaf. It's who I am."

But it's only now I'm identifying myself as Deaf.
 
faire_jour said:
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on my life, my hand to heaven, it totally happened.

it was an older Deaf woman who saw my husband playing with my daughter. She told us her story and explain that she had never had a relationship with her family because they could sign. They she hugged us and cried. She said that sometimes moms learn ASL but to see a father being able to communicate with his child was amazing.
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oh, with all of your lies, I have hard time believing you though.
 
jillio said:
:bsflag: Your child is in an oral school. No doubt your home is the same. You would not put your child in an oral school if you were raising her bilingually. You relied on sign language until you got your precious CIs and then went oral just like so many other hearing parents do. You just refuse to be honest about it. And you know, in some part of your confused brain, you know that you are wrong, or you wouldn't still be on a Deaf website trying to convince people you are something you aren't.
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Isn't PFH's Deaf daughter also in an oral program? He grew up in a SEE environment and only recently self-identified as Deaf 2 years ago, so how would her influences make her ability to self identify as Deaf but not so FJ's kid, who grew up in an ASL environment and among other Deaf people?
 
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i know you aren't stupid, so why do you so often pretend to be? You know that i am raising my child bilingually, but doing it in a different way than grendel. Why does that matter? She has and uses ASL, and has always been a part of the Deaf community. Don't like me? Fine. But stop pretending that i am not doing the right things for my kid.
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:bsflag: Your child is in an oral school. No doubt your home is the same. You would not put your child in an oral school if you were raising her bilingually. You relied on sign language until you got your precious CIs and then went oral just like so many other hearing parents do. You just refuse to be honest about it. And you know, in some part of your confused brain, you know that you are wrong, or you wouldn't still be on a Deaf website trying to convince people you are something you aren't.
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nope, we sign everyday. We make sure certain times are voice off and that we continue to be as active in this Deaf community as we can.

in fact, i am teaming with a local Deaf org. To start a chapter of hands & voices here. And will shortly we attending a seminar for families of deaf kids being presented by a speaker from gallaudet.
 
DeafCaroline said:
I grew up deaf, oral, never signed and never ever ever did I identify myself as hearing. I knew to my core I was not, and my life reminded me of that daily. Anyone who ever did identify themselves as hearing was in profound denial.

I never really identified myself as anything really, just told people I'm hard of hearing or hearing impaired as my mother told me to do.

It was in my 20s that I realized without a doubt that I'm DEAF and no amount of politically correctedness was going to whitewash that. I remember once i told someone I'm not hearing impaired, I'm deaf and she reacted like I said a bad word and attempted to correct me. I was so offended "how dare you, a hearing person, tell me what I am. I'm the one who's deaf, not you. It's up to me to decide, not you."

So, in my 20s, I stopped telling people I'm hard of hearing and started saying "I'm deaf." My father didn't like that very much but he stopped fussing about it when I took off my hearing aids and said "Dad, I can't hear anything. I'm deaf. I'm not an old person who's lost a bit of hearing, I'm stone cold flat out deaf. It's who I am."

But it's only now I'm identifying myself as Deaf.
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I totally understand! I am in same boat with my family--I do know a lot of deaf people who grew up oral identify themself as hearing though--Like AG bell and stuff.
 
GrendelQ said:
Isn't PFH's Deaf daughter also in an oral program? He grew up in a SEE environment and only recently self-identified as Deaf 2 years ago, so how would her influences make her ability to self identify as Deaf but not so FJ's kid, who grew up in an ASL environment and among other Deaf people?
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lol nope.

Bring it on, any more fabrications?

oh, and hearing parents.
 
faire_jour said:
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nope, we sign everyday. We make sure certain times are voice off and that we continue to be as active in this Deaf community as we can.

in fact, i am teaming with a local Deaf org. To start a chapter of hands & voices here. And will shortly we attending a seminar for families of deaf kids being presented by a speaker from gallaudet.
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what certain times are voice off?
 
faire_jour said:
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on my life, my hand to heaven, it totally happened.

it was an older Deaf woman who saw my husband playing with my daughter. She told us her story and explain that she had never had a relationship with her family because they could sign. They she hugged us and cried. She said that sometimes moms learn ASL but to see a father being able to communicate with his child was amazing.
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And again I say, :bsflag:
 
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you are absolutely wrong. Just because this one site has a few angry, loud, posters does NOT mean it represents the real life Deaf community. In fact, you are the single most vicious person and you are HEARING...a fact you like to forget
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Its summer. Go play with your daughter. Be a parent instead of telling us about you being a parent.
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daughter is on a field trip to the zoo with school. I'm as free as a bird :)
 
GrendelQ said:
Isn't PFH's Deaf daughter also in an oral program? He grew up in a SEE environment and only recently self-identified as Deaf 2 years ago, so how would her influences make her ability to self identify as Deaf but not so FJ's kid, who grew up in an ASL environment and among other Deaf people?
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Nope. You need to do some fact checking.
 
posts from hell said:
She was born into a Deaf family, and world.
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GrendelQ said:
Isn't PFH's Deaf daughter also in an oral program? He grew up in a SEE environment and only recently self-identified as Deaf 2 years ago, so how would her influences make her ability to self identify as Deaf but not so FJ's kid, who grew up in an ASL environment and among other Deaf people?
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where did you see that? :confused:
 
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faire_jour said:
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nope, we sign everyday. We make sure certain times are voice off and that we continue to be as active in this Deaf community as we can.

in fact, i am teaming with a local Deaf org. To start a chapter of hands & voices here. And will shortly we attending a seminar for families of deaf kids being presented by a speaker from gallaudet.
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what certain times are voice off?
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usually dinner. Plus we always do our family nights and church lessons in ASL. We also use it to teach some new concepts or reteach vocabulary that she knew in ASL but doesn't know in English.
 
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