CAPD terminology (Audi says I'm "hearing impaired.")

joycem137 said:
I read that this was offensive in "For Hearing People Only," a book on Deaf culture that I read in my ASL 1 class.

Here's a link on this forum to a discussion on the subject: http://www.alldeaf.com/general-chat/81464-hearing-impaired-offensive.html

And another: http://www.alldeaf.com/our-world-our-culture/63919-offensive.html

My understanding is that it focuses on the "impairment" the "can't" and not on the abilities and "cans" of the person in question. It focuses on what is missing instead of what is gained, as in Deaf Culture.
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We have discussed this numerous times on the this forum. It also implies that one is broken and in need of fixing. An idea that if offensive to most. Just to be safe, I would never use the term when referring to anyone. It is, after all, a term coined by the hearing in an attempt to be more PC. It ended up being more offensive to the deaf than the terminology it was supposed to replace. It also smacks of an audist perspective.
 
It is, after all, a term coined by the hearing in an attempt to be more PC.
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With all due respect - almost all the terms used here were coined by the hearing.
At best, some words can be chosen to the liking of the others :)


Fuzzy
 
Boy - reading all this makes me wonder if my daughter really has this, but she was diagnosed by the audiologist, ENT and pediatrician all working together.

I do not totally understand exactly what all tests were done, but she got the diagnosis quite a while ago. I just never really talked about it except for the last 4-5 years.

Her hearing loss is now in the moderate range. She has speech and language delays. She still has speech difficulties. She cannot handle multiple step commands or questions.

She has CAPD, dyscalculia, borderline ADD, moderate hearing loss (SNHL), and fine motor and gross motor skill delays. Memory retention problems, comprehension problems and I'm not sure what else. She is 17 and back to a 3rd grade level in school again. We go from grade 3-7 and back again and have gone back to grade 3 routinely for the last 8 years.
 
Wow, I didn't realize you had that issue with your daughter. That sounds very, very difficult.
 
Beach girl said:
Wow, I didn't realize you had that issue with your daughter. That sounds very, very difficult.
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She was born with an oxygen cut-off and her neck was "cocked" at a 45 degree. We worked hard with all kinds of therapy and did a lot of things that seemed totally off base.

Sorry for being off-topic a little.
 
KristinaB said:
She was born with an oxygen cut-off and her neck was "cocked" at a 45 degree. We worked hard with all kinds of therapy and did a lot of things that seemed totally off base.

Sorry for being off-topic a little.
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The audiologist theorized that a minor version of that might have been the cause of my issues. When I was born, the umbilical cord was wrapped around my neck and I was deprived of oxygen for a short while. They also had to really struggle to get me out, using forceps and things.

The audiologist thinks that this oxygen deprivation caused some brain damage that resulted in my CAPD and my prosopagnosia.
 
joycem137 said:
The audiologist theorized that a minor version of that might have been the cause of my issues. When I was born, the umbilical cord was wrapped around my neck and I was deprived of oxygen for a short while. They also had to really struggle to get me out, using forceps and things.

The audiologist thinks that this oxygen deprivation caused some brain damage that resulted in my CAPD and my prosopagnosia.
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For my daughter it was more "no room in the inn". She was a very large baby and I am not that tall. She was born with a curved leg, crooked neck and a folded ear. She was 12 1/2 pounds and 24 1/2 inches. I had a C-section and one of her feet had to be un-wedged from my ribs. I had 2 broken ribs from that foot.
 
joycem137 said:
The audiologist theorized that a minor version of that might have been the cause of my issues. When I was born, the umbilical cord was wrapped around my neck and I was deprived of oxygen for a short while. They also had to really struggle to get me out, using forceps and things.

The audiologist thinks that this oxygen deprivation caused some brain damage that resulted in my CAPD and my prosopagnosia.
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Same story with my older daughter's delivery and she has CAPD also.
 
Bottesini said:
Same story with my older daughter's delivery and she has CAPD also.
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Interesting - I was born 2weeks early (& barely 6lbs). I had a number of times in my first month of life I'd "forget to breathe" - mum would walk in to check on me (mum's instinct I guess) and I'd be purple !

Apparently I also did it once while I was completely awake and mum was holding me, and another time in my car seat on the way back home from the doctor's.

It's nothing short of a miracle that I didn't die from SIDS (due to stopping breathing)

Makes me wonder if those bouts of oxygen deprivation are the cause of my APD ?
 
joycem137 said:
The audiologist theorized that a minor version of that might have been the cause of my issues. When I was born, the umbilical cord was wrapped around my neck and I was deprived of oxygen for a short while. They also had to really struggle to get me out, using forceps and things.

The audiologist thinks that this oxygen deprivation caused some brain damage that resulted in my CAPD and my prosopagnosia.
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Lowered oxygen levels could indeed cause the brain trauma responsible for both. It could also be a combination of oxygen deprivation and the use of forceps.
 
Anij said:
Interesting - I was born 2weeks early (& barely 6lbs). I had a number of times in my first month of life I'd "forget to breathe" - mum would walk in to check on me (mum's instinct I guess) and I'd be purple !

Apparently I also did it once while I was completely awake and mum was holding me, and another time in my car seat on the way back home from the doctor's.

It's nothing short of a miracle that I didn't die from SIDS (due to stopping breathing)

Makes me wonder if those bouts of oxygen deprivation are the cause of my APD ?
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Quite possibly.
 
Jazzberry said:
TXgolfer doesn't mess around! :) Last week he e-mailed Joseph Santos-Sacchi, Ph.D. and asked him to further explain some of the issues that came up in this thread about the ear-brain pathway.

I had linked to Dr. Santos-Sacchi's web page that briefly described his research efforts in posts 27 and 58. Here it is again:



I got the go-ahead from TXgolfer to pass on part of his e-mail from Dr. Santos-Sacchi to this thread:




Last week I had found a diagram on Wiki that shows the auditory pathways from the inner ear to the auditory cortex and from the auditory cortex to the inner ear. I didn't post it last week because, for one thing, I think the diagram should have only shown one auditory cortex and a second cochlea. However, I think the diagram's two-way arrows between the various structures including the inner ear, "relay stations" along the auditory nerve, and the auditory cortex is helpful. So, I attached it -- it's at the bottom of ths post. The original link is here:

File:Aud pathway.png - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



Mini-glossary

per: Efferent definition - Medical Dictionary definitions of popular medical terms easily defined on MedTerms

efferent

central nervous system:


and per 2 OHCS Acronym/Abbreviation Meanings - What Does OHCS Stand For?

OHCS


Per my reading:
As far as I know, outer hair cells only occur in the cochlear.
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:lol: I like info

BTW the Dr invited me and others here to have a beer this summer in AZ. If anyone is interested they can PM me for details.

Also he has an assistant who he describes as a "brilliant scientist" that may join us here on AD. She is HOH as well. Pretty cool stuff.
 
Jazzberry said:
TXgolfer doesn't mess around! :) Last week he e-mailed Joseph Santos-Sacchi, Ph.D. and asked him to further explain some of the issues that came up in this thread about the ear-brain pathway.

I had linked to Dr. Santos-Sacchi's web page that briefly described his research efforts in posts 27 and 58. Here it is again:



I got the go-ahead from TXgolfer to pass on part of his e-mail from Dr. Santos-Sacchi to this thread:




Last week I had found a diagram on Wiki that shows the auditory pathways from the inner ear to the auditory cortex and from the auditory cortex to the inner ear. I didn't post it last week because, for one thing, I think the diagram should have only shown one auditory cortex and a second cochlea. However, I think the diagram's two-way arrows between the various structures including the inner ear, "relay stations" along the auditory nerve, and the auditory cortex is helpful. So, I attached it -- it's at the bottom of ths post. The original link is here:

File:Aud pathway.png - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



Mini-glossary

per: Efferent definition - Medical Dictionary definitions of popular medical terms easily defined on MedTerms

efferent

central nervous system:


and per 2 OHCS Acronym/Abbreviation Meanings - What Does OHCS Stand For?

OHCS


Per my reading:
As far as I know, outer hair cells only occur in the cochlear.
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The good doctor is re-iterating exactly what I was saying.

If you are interested in diagrams, I'll see if I can scan some in from a couple of neurology texts.
 
jillio said:
The good doctor is re-iterating exactly what I was saying.

If you are interested in diagrams, I'll see if I can scan some in from a couple of neurology texts.
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You said...

This is why I stated that the cochlea, and the cochlear nucleus were being confused. The claim was that the auditory cortex sent signals back to the cochlea. The cochlear nucleus is located in the brainstem. Therefore, once the stimulus has reached the brain, it does not descend back into the inner ear structure of the cochlea. It remains in the brain. It does not descend into any of the structures of the ear. However, the stimulus does ascend from the ear into the brain. Therefore, the cochlea is involved only in the ascent of stimulus.
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he said...

As far as I know there are efferent paths down from high levels (cortical?) to the superior olive. Not sure if they directly drive the well characterized efferents that come from the olive to the Organ of Corti to innervate the hair cells – medial efferents to the OHC’s cell body and lateral efferents to the inner hair cell’s afferent fibers. The efferents to the OHC directly affect cochlear amplification, and out hearing sensitivity. So, definitely there is contact from some central regions to the cochlea within the organ of Corti to the hair cells. OHCs send some info to the cochlear nuclei with possible feedback to the cochlea.
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*shrug*


The organ of Corti (or spiral organ) is the organ in the inner ear of mammals that contains auditory sensory cells, or "hair cells."
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Organ of Corti - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
TXgolfer said:
You said...




he said...



*shrug*




Organ of Corti - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Like I said, you are having difficulty comprehending what you are reading. You are assuming "contact" means something other than what it means in this context. But that's okay. Keep trying. I would suggest starting with some elementary materials.

I don't need Wiki links on the organ of Corti. I have neurology texts for that.
 
jillio said:
Like I said, you are having difficulty comprehending what you are reading. You are assuming "contact" means something other than what it means in this context. But that's okay. Keep trying. I would suggest starting with some elementary materials.

I don't need Wiki links on the organ of Corti. I have neurology texts for that.
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:laugh2: How Clintonian
 
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