Black Friday Worker Stampeded to Death

[web730]

I dont know..I still feel that there are alternative ways to handle the crowds and stampede without having to hire extra security with the idea that it will happen. What about coming up with preventive measures?

Maybe by next Black Friday they ought to hire the military men with AK-47s around those stores.

 

[Jiro]

I dont know..I still feel that there are alternative ways to handle the crowds and stampede without having to hire extra security with the idea that it will happen. What about coming up with preventive measures?

you still gotta hire additional security guards... same crazy mobs every year. issuing lottery won't help since they will fight over the ticket. ticket can be misplaced. How do you handle lottery among 5,000+ people?

We simply just employ same tactic that Riot Police have been doing for years. Form the line, show some muscle, show people who are in charge.

 

[Jiro]

Maybe by next Black Friday they ought to hire the military men with AK-47s around those stores.

how about just hire whole NFL guys?

beside.... who in their right mind would dare to open the locked door in front of mobs?????? Don't they know they would get stampeded over? these people.... they just don't learn... IMO - corporations like Wal-Mart and major malls should be held criminally liable for this kind of death for failure to provide sufficient security and safety to control the mob.

 

[web730]

how about just hire whole NFL guys?

beside.... who in their right mind would dare to open the locked door in front of mobs?????? Don't they know they would get stampeded over? these people.... they just don't learn... IMO - corporations like Wal-Mart and major malls should be held criminally liable for this kind of death for failure to provide sufficient security and safety to control the mob.

hmm But I betcha military men with AK-47s they cannot dare to stampede over rather than NFL guys, huh? lol

Yep, you made a good point as why didn't they know any better about the dangers of Black Friday. This should teach them a big lesson to prepare better next time... but will they?

 

[Jiro]

hmm

Yep, you made a good point as why didn't they know any better about the dangers of Black Friday. This should teach them a big lesson to prepare better next time... but will they?

You know we've had stampede death last year and 2 years ago and 3 years ago. it's same all the time! WTF'S WRONG WITH THE STORES??? Don't they know that paying for liability costs far more than hiring additional security guards? :scratch:

 

[shel90]

how about just hire whole NFL guys?

beside.... who in their right mind would dare to open the locked door in front of mobs?????? Don't they know they would get stampeded over? these people.... they just don't learn... IMO - corporations like Wal-Mart and major malls should be held criminally liable for this kind of death for failure to provide sufficient security and safety to control the mob.

True...like I said, there HAS to be something the stores can do differently so something like this wont happen again.

 

[web730]

You know we've had stampede death last year and 2 years ago and 3 years ago. it's same all the time! WTF'S WRONG WITH THE STORES??? Don't they know that paying for liability costs far more than hiring additional security guards? :scratch:

YES! Hand-down dumb of them never learnt the lesson before.

 

[sara1981]

im sure security guard from walmart,mall,etc doing their jobs and wont hurt workers but im sure makes CRAZY FRIDAY and workers get hurt and also customer have injury,mothers who expecting baby need easy.

BUT i didnt going CRAZY FRIDAY STORES every years but i saw on news some people who outside near store wait for open around 5am morning that stupid and so INSANE!

IF I got married somedays i would not going crazy friday stores!!!!!!!!!

 

[Jiro]

im sure security guard from walmart,mall,etc doing their jobs and wont hurt workers but im sure makes CRAZY FRIDAY and workers get hurt and also customer have injury,mothers who expecting baby need easy.

BUT i didnt going CRAZY FRIDAY STORES every years but i saw on news some people who outside near store wait for open around 5am morning that stupid and so INSANE!

IF I got married somedays i would not going crazy friday stores!!!!!!!!!

IMO - the workers SHOULD not open the door if there is mob right behind the other side of the door. and beside.... I think security guards should open the door, not workers.

We've already seen this kind of mob behavior everywhere. The refugee camp to get some food/water from relief workers, political mobs, the outcome of unpopular verdict of high-profile case at courts, etc..... All points to - needing sufficient security guards!

 

[sara1981]

IMO - the workers SHOULD not open the door if there is mob right behind the other side of the door. and beside.... I think security guards should open the door, not workers.

We've already seen this kind of mob behavior everywhere. The refugee camp to get some food/water from relief workers, political mobs, the outcome of unpopular verdict of high-profile case at courts, etc..... All points to - needing sufficient security guards!

i would give you 100% agree!

i think workers always open who charges in stores not store managers or supervisors im hope so! if im mistakes or im correct

 

[Jiro]

i would give you 100% agree!

i think workers always open who charges in stores not store managers or supervisors im hope so! if im mistakes or im correct

on normal days - it doesn't really matter who opens the door but on Black Friday? wow.... somebody must have a STEEL OF BALLS to open the door! I definitely would NOT do it.... not even for $200 bucks!!!!

 

[web730]

on normal days - it doesn't really matter who opens the door but on Black Friday? wow.... somebody must have a STEEL OF BALLS to open the door! I definitely would NOT do it.... not even for $200 bucks!!!!

 

[Hear Again]

True...like I said, there HAS to be something the stores can do differently so something like this wont happen again.

how about letting in only a few people at a time? that may be difficult with a mob, but who knows?

 

[Hear Again]

I think Black Friday should be outlawed, period!

I hate crowds, so I will NEVER go out shopping on Black Friday, ever. Crowds bother me and make me very nervous. I don't like being around a lot of people. Thank goodness for online shopping! :roll:

same here, lucia. crowds make me manic.

i was going to go shopping for an ergonomic keyboard today, but i changed my mind and will go tomorrow or sunday instead.

 

[shel90]

how about letting in only a few people at a time? that may be difficult with a mob, but who knows?

and have people fighting in the parking lot or at the front to be those first few? The deep root of the problem is that people want to be first so they can get the items at the bargain prices before they are all out. To get the problem solved, we have to look at the root of the problem and address it.

 

[Hear Again]

on normal days - it doesn't really matter who opens the door but on Black Friday? wow.... somebody must have a STEEL OF BALLS to open the door! I definitely would NOT do it.... not even for $200 bucks!!!!

you couldn't pay me to do it either. perhaps what store managers need are german sheperds who can prevent people from storming into the doors.

 

[Hear Again]

and have people fighting in the parking lot or at the front to be those first few? The deep root of the problem is that people want to be first so they can get the items at the bargain prices before they are all out. To get the problem solved, we have to look at the root of the problem and address it.

i don't see any way around it except to outlaw black friday or prevent stores from having holiday sales.

 

[Jiro]

and have people fighting in the parking lot or at the front to be those first few? The deep root of the problem is that people want to be first so they can get the items at the bargain prices before they are all out. To get the problem solved, we have to look at the root of the problem and address it.

exactly - hire more security guards to control the situation all the way to parking lots... just like they did for Woodbury Commons on huge sales day. There were tons of security guards especially for traffic control.

you couldn't pay me to do it either. perhaps what store managers need are german sheperds who can prevent people from storming into the doors.

good idea!

 

[Jiro]

i don't see any way around it except to outlaw black friday or prevent stores from having holiday sales.

I see only one logical solution - government intervention to require malls to effectively control the situation by hiring additional guards or hold them criminally-liable for it.... and this time - with harsher penalty.

 

[shel90]

exactly - hire more security guards to control the situation all the way to parking lots... just like they did for Woodbury Commons on huge sales day. There were tons of security guards especially for traffic control.



good idea!

Oh you mean security like at big events?