You mean our kids aren't our possessions?
I mean kids are little people who deserve respect and consideration like anyone else.
You mean our kids aren't our possessions?
Thanks for explaining it. As with you, I am not anti CI in that I feel that it is my duty to make the decision for anyone else. My son chooses not to be implanted, and I fully support him in his decisions. Should he decide, for whatever reason, that he would like to be implanted in the future, then I will support him in that decision, as well. It is his deafness, and it is he who must decide the best way to cope with it. I have never experienced deafness, so how can I possibly say that hearing is a preferable condition and one that we must all strive for. That is what I am against. The imposition of a hearing perspective on an entire population of people who have managed to face untold obstacles--most of them imposed by hearing culture--and still survive and thrive intact. I am against the so called attempt to help from an ethnocentric perspective. If the issue was really one of being of assistance to the Deaf community, why is that that the Deaf viewpoint and experience is totally discounted in the decision making process?
It's a good point.
I was talking to a friend today about some of the issues here and how my brother has told me if someone could wave a magic wand and give him perfect hearing, he wouldn't want it if he couldn't turn it off. My friend asked why.
To demonstrate why, I lightly tapped his shoulder with my fingers. O said: "There. You now have a new sense. It's not hurting you. Would you like it to continue that way forever?" I continued tapping. "People are telling you this is meaningful and a gift." Tap tap tap. "It's a miricle and you're better with it than without it." Tap tap tap. "Those taps have meaning. Work for several years trying to figure out the meaning." Tap tap tap. "How's it working for you?" Tap tap tap.
He said, "Yeah, I get the point. It makes sense."
You mean our kids aren't our possessions?
Wow! I'll have to remember that one! Great analogy.
just making it clickableThanks. By the way, my friend has some hearing loss thanks to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%A9ni%C3%A8re's_disease and if he loses enough, he might need a CI.
For him it would be fantasic. I think for some deaf people--even born deaf--it can be a blessing. Just not for everyone.
If my child were born deaf, I'd strongly consider giving him a CI early as possible so that the brain adapted well for it, if the risk to his health would be minimal.
I'd also teach him sign, and talk at the same time, and foster all forms of communication.
I'd also ask him, when he was old enough, if he wanted a second CI, or wanted to remove the CI's external parts, or if he just wanted to decide later--or never.
But the world IS easier if you're hearing. It's a hearing world, no doubt. I'd want to give him the best possible chances to be as he wishes to be.
It's no crime to admit that deafness is a disability. It hampers communication in many ways, with hearing people. Less so every day, thanks to technology. But if a bionic ear could help my child, and not hurt him, I'd likely do it. I see no reason not to--it's not like if, with my brother, it's not a good experience it can't be just not used.
By the same token, I'd not work on my child's new hearing abilities in a way that would lessen his learning about life. If things can develop well because of a baby's adaptability, I think a CI is of value. If it cannot--it was worth a shot, I think. But I would never let a child of mine think it wasn't totally okay to feel the CI wasn't of value and not use it.
I'd also ask him, when he was old enough, if he wanted a second CI, or wanted to remove the CI's external parts, or if he just wanted to decide later--or never.
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Just the CI external parts? The implant will still be stuck in that head of his, how fair is that? If can be removed, which I doubt it, then does he want to exposed to the risks of surgery again?
Yup--would be a waste of time, money and effort. Still, worth a shot to make things easier in life. There's no doubt that life is easier in a hearing world if you can have some ability to hear and learn to speak. No doubt. What one must weigh is how much time, and effort, should be put into getting that value. I think some. Just not to exclusion of living, enjoyment, and most importantly LEARNING.Plus There is no test a person can take before surgery that will predict how well he or she will understand language after surgery. It is unknown whether it'll work for your son as it'll work for those who had it. What if it doesn't work for your son? Wouldn't it be a wasted? a disappointing?
And you know how kids love to play with water, and water can damage the external parts, It'll gonna be expensive to repair it, and then again he'll be without hearing. How can you be able to watch your child 24/7 to make sure he is takes care of his CI? You can't.
Not at all! All good questions!I'm not trying to be harsh, if I was I apology.
I'm sorry but I don't see that happening at my son's school. Perhaps this is something that occurs in pockets.yea and we have freewill but the children don't and if hearing people who don't have background knowledge on deafness, language acquisition, or understanding of the risk, it is those children who pays the price if they become delayed in language because nobody really knows what to do with them.
My primary focus is on the child's language development and I have seen success with children being exposed to both but people still like to argue about deaf people needing to fit in with hearing people or deaf people who didn't get implanted r missing out on spoken skills. To me it seems that oral skills take priority over the children's ability to acquire a full L! And develop rich lieracy skills.
I'm sorry but I don't see that happening at my son's school. Perhaps this is something that occurs in pockets.
I didn't say anything about terps but since you mention it, It's believed thatI see this is a reply to Jilio, but just want to add something here, so excuse me. Interpreters was brought to us by deaf people, not hearings.
Interpreting - Academic Paper - The Importance of Sign Language Interpreters for Deaf Clients: History, Roles, Responsibilities and Relationshipsthe role of an interpreter began with cave persons. A Deaf cave person would ask a hearing person to act as an interpreter for both the Deaf and hearing, cave persons (Humphrey et al., 1996: 91).
The various forms of sign I speak of are American Signed English; Seeing Essential English (SEE1); Signing Exact English (SEE2); Linguistics of Visual English (LOVE); Conceptually Accurate Signed English (CASE) etc.I am not sure what you mean with "various forms of sign", but if we are talking sign language/ASL, it was invented by deaf people, not hearing people. Sign language grows naturally where deaf people are.
If you check into the history of cc you will find that is not true.Closed captioning is also something that deaf people have demanded.
A Brief History of Captioned TelevisionIn 1970 the National Bureau of Standards began to investigate the possibility of using a portion of the network television signal to send precise time information on a nationwide basis. This led to a preview of captioning at the First National Conference on Television for the Hearing Impaired in Nashville, Tennessee, in 1971. Two possible technologies for captioning television programs were demonstrated that would display the captions only on specially equipped sets for deaf and hard-of-hearing viewers. A second demonstration of closed captioning was held at Gallaudet College on February 15, 1972. ABC and the National Bureau of Standards presented closed captions embedded within the normal broadcast of Mod Squad. As a result of the enthusiasm these demonstrations created in the deaf and hard-of-hearing community, the National Association of Broadcasters studied the technical and economic factors involved in establishing a captioning service. The Association concluded that this captioning system was technically possible, but certain steps had to be taken before it could become a reality. The federal government then said it would fund the development and testing of this system. The engineering department of the Public Broadcasting System started to work on the project in 1973 under contract to the Bureau of Education for the Handicapped of the Department of Health, Education and Welfare (HEW).
Actually I have researched the history of hearing aids and perhaps you would change your position if you checked yourself. Here are some resources.Hearing aids was brought to us by old deafened scientist who wantet to hear more. You would maybe find some books on deaf history interesting if you want to know more. Gallaudet Press have some.
see above.What is the "various forms of sign" anyway? Curious.
Cheri, we make a choice for our children if we go with a CI or not. I'ts still a choice. As parents our children are our responsibility and as such we make choices for them all of the time. Think about the choices you make for your own children and the reasons you make those choices.What about children? They don't have no say in receiving cochlear implants, parents make the choice for them. It's the same thing about abortion, women have that right to choose to have the baby or aborted it, and again a child has no say in this. Where's the individual choice in this situation? Because they have no ability to make a choice because they're young and not fully understand? But again it's their life isn't it?
Much of what he said isn't factual.Saved me some typing time on this one.
No they are not but our children are our responsibility and any good parent would want to do what they feel is in the best interest of their child. To not get a CI is also a choice that you make for your children. If the choice is made without investigating all of the issues then its not a good choice IMO.You mean our kids aren't our possessions?
Much of what he said isn't factual.
No they are not but our children are our responsibility and any good parent would want to do what they feel is in the best interest of their child. To not get a CI is also a choice that you make for your children. If the choice is made without investigating all of the issues then its not a good choice IMO.