Americans still texting while driving despite bans

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I remember seeing a video a while back of this bus driver who was texting... and crashed. :Ohno:
 
Hear Again said:
I find it interesting how you can predict what drivers will and won't do behind the wheel of a car. None of us knows how anyone will behave when driving. Someone can receive all the driver's ed. training in the world yet that will never guarantee that they will be a safe and responsible driver.
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so explain to me why the accident statistics fare better in Europe than in America? and why the accident statistic is horrendous in India?

Training is everything, Hear Again. That's why our soldiers, police officers, government officials, racing drivers, construction drivers, etc. are safer than other countries and/or civilians. They are constantly trained and thoroughly trained. Training makes a big difference. It increases safety.

Do you prefer the doctor treating you with 4 years of poor medical education rather than those with 2 years of stringent education?
 
Jiro said:
Do you prefer the doctor treating you with 4 years of poor medical education rather than those with 2 years of stringent education?
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Training doesn't determine how a person will act behind the wheel of a car nor does it guarantee that they will act responsibly.

As for doctors, your point is irrelevant. Training has nothing to do with the competency of a doctor. It all comes down to how they apply their training.

I would rather have a doctor with less experience who has a full understanding of the training he received as well as an excellent bedside manner instead of a doctor with 20+ years of experience who views all of his patients as "textbook cases" instead of individuals and whose only interest is getting them in and out the door ASAP.
 
VamPyroX said:
I remember seeing a video a while back of this bus driver who was texting... and crashed. :Ohno:
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In California, the driver of a train was texting while driving and if I remember correctly, 25 or so people lost their lives as a result.
 
Hear Again said:
Training doesn't determine how a person will act behind the wheel of a car nor does it guarantee that they will act responsibly.

As for doctors, your point is irrelevant. Training has nothing to do with the competency of a doctor. It all comes down to how they apply their training.
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OOOHHH THERE YOU GO!!!! It comes down to how they APPLY their training!!!!!! YES YES! With our current driver education - there is NONE. With comprehensive training - it's up to them to how to apply it. They can either choose to be reckless or not but I can tell you that with comprehensive training - they will have less accident statistic than current situation - a proven case example in Europe. Since you don't seem to put much faith in training, here's a relevant equivalent question - do you prefer a teenager to have a poor sex education and then hope for best?

Hear Again said:
I would rather have a doctor with less experience who has a full understanding of the training he received as well as an excellent bedside manner instead of a doctor with 20+ years of experience who views all of his patients as "textbook cases" instead of individuals and whose only interest is getting them in and out the door ASAP.
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Sorry but that's a fallacious example of comparison . Here's a proper comparison - A doctor with less experience and a FULL understanding of training vs. A doctor with many experience and a POOR understanding of training.

Obviously - the latter will have a much higher chance than former in getting a malpractice lawsuit.
 
Jiro said:
lol you just reminded of this "four-eyed fish" called Anableps anableps.

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Split eyes of the four-eyed fish allow it to see above and below the surface of the water simultaneously due to varying thickness in the lens.
"Native to Caribbean lagoons, Anableps anableps is commonly known as the four-eyed fish because its two eyes are split by horizontal partitions into two halves, each of which has its own iris and retina. This unique optical construction lets the fish swim at the surface of the water, with the upper half of each eye scanning the air for predatory fish-eating birds, and the lower half peering down below the surface, in search of small fish to feed on…Despite each eye being partitioned, there is only one oval-shaped lens per eye. Because vision through water requires a thicker lens than vision through air, the fish's eye is ingeniously adapted to fulfill two purposes, with the lower portion of each eye's lens (through which the fish sees underwater) thicker than the upper portion (through which the fish sees in air)." (Shuker 2001:12-13)
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I guess that's why I'm nicknamed four eyes sometimes since I wear glasses lol.
 
Jiro,

What you fail to recognize is the fact that training does not guarantee how someone will behave behind the wheel of a car. You can't force people to act a certain way unless they want to. The way we get around that is by creating laws to protect the safety of those who act responsibly.
 
Hear Again said:
Jiro,

What you fail to recognize is the fact that training does not guarantee how someone will behave behind the wheel of a car. You can't force people to act a certain way unless they want to.
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Laws won't guarantee the same either.
 
Hear Again said:
Jiro,

What you fail to recognize is the fact that training does not guarantee how someone will behave behind the wheel of a car. You can't force people to act a certain way unless they want to.
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again - you failed to understand that it's preferable for people to behave with the training in their mind. Are you telling me that we should not bother giving them comprehensive driver education? Are you telling me that we should make more useless laws while people continue to crash more and more? Are you telling me that we should not bother with preventative programs? Are you telling me that we should continue to issue driver license to people with poor driver education?

I asked you - do you prefer the kids to have comprehensive sex education when they're out there, sleeping around?
 
Here's a proper comparison - A doctor with less experience and a FULL understanding of training vs. A doctor with many experience and a POOR understanding of training.

I believe that's what I said Jiro. Stop trying to confuse the topic and those who are reading this thread.
 
I am done with this discussion. Let's agree to disagree as usual Jiro.
 
Hear Again said:
I believe that's what I said Jiro. Stop trying to confuse the topic and those who are reading this thread.
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I'm sorry but he is one that is making sense. You as far as I'm concerned are trying to confuse the topic.
 
Hear Again said:
Here's a proper comparison - A doctor with less experience and a FULL understanding of training vs. A doctor with many experience and a POOR understanding of training.

I believe that's what I said Jiro. Stop trying to confuse the topic and those who are reading this thread.
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can you believe point out how is your previous sentence any similar to my simple crystal-clear example? "I would rather have a doctor with less experience who has a full understanding of the training he received as well as an excellent bedside manner instead of a doctor with 20+ years of experience who views all of his patients as "textbook cases" instead of individuals and whose only interest is getting them in and out the door ASAP."

Your example's showing that you want the doctor to show some compassion and to spend extra time with the patients instead of thinking about money. That has NOTHING to do with training.

Please answer my simple, crystal-clear question.
 
Hear Again said:
I am done with this discussion. Let's agree to disagree as usual Jiro.
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there's nothing to agree to disagree as your posts are not coherent or relevant to this thread.
 
I said I am not discussing this further with you Jiro. Let's agree to disagree please. Thank you.
 
Jiro said:
there's nothing to agree to disagree as your posts are not coherent or relevant to this thread.
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That is your interpretation. It isn't fact.

Funny how you always say that my posts are incoherent when you can't come up with a logical argument to dispute them.
 
Both Jiro and Secretblend make good point.

If texting in car is banned then how does people need utilize the GPS on cell phone to receive any information about road and make others considered them as usage of texting.

Texting ban law is joke, it never solve the problem.
 
It would be nice if I could actually have a debate with someone who doesn't contradict their own argument.
 
Hear Again said:
I said I am not discussing this further with you Jiro. Let's agree to disagree please. Thank you.
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Hear Again said:
That is your interpretation. It isn't fact.

Funny how you always say that my posts are incoherent when you can't come up with a logical argument to dispute them.
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I don't know what you are asking from me. You can simply leave the thread at any time.
 
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