Am I (D)eaf?

What's up with you east coasters being vampires tonight!?

I suppose you guys just enjoy us that much :lol:!
 
Jiro said:
really? interesting! i hope it's not $$$$$$$$$
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Everything costs $$$$$$.

However if you decide to do the test--ask the Genetician about Jillio & I's points of view.

I'm sure that both of us would like to hear their viewpoint.
 
Byrdie714 said:
Everything costs $$$$$$.

However if you decide to do the test--ask the Genetician about Jillio & I's points of view.

I'm sure that both of us would like to hear their viewpoint.
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You can hear stuff you don't want to know. I found out I am a carrier for sure of hemachromotosis and may have it, (it was not clear if I do).

Genetic testing could make you hesitant to live life.
 
To be honest, in class today we just started on the chapter of Genetic mutations.. Thanks to the lesson, I think I have a general understanding on how the process occurs, and how DNA gel electrophoresis works to discover it..
But so far we've only covered sickle cell anemia as the basics.

It's quite an interesting topic by far, and what you said has light into it Botti.
 
Byrdie714 said:
That's nice but as an individual that is the big "D"--I don't see you as a member of the big 'D' due to the fact that you are also blind.

I see you as a member of the Deaf-Blind, not the Deaf.

Two separate communities and culture.
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Why is that Byrdie? The deafblind community shares many of the same struggles and concerns as the Deaf community -- if not more.
 
Hear Again said:
Why is that Byrdie? The deafblind community shares many of the same struggles and concerns as the Deaf community -- if not more.
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The way I see Byrdie saying it is, (correct me if I'm wrong Byrdie, and he's probably gone to sleep for the night) the Deafblind is another spinoff of the Deaf community.

Just like how Cued Speech is another spinoff of ASL, but not literally.
 
I've been reading up on D(d)eaf issues...since I was in class so I couldn't really give my input.

Here's my situation.

I am deaf/ Hard of Hearing. Why? It has been ASSIGNED to me from many Deaf people in the community on the sole basis that I can talk well and hear well. Now, it probably has driven the nail in the coffin on that issue when I got two CI's. I do attend Deaf events. I do sign (okay, I just started to realize that I do not sign ASL fluently because I *think* in English, I can't speak in ASL because it's not my primary language). So, I do TRY to be the big D, but no. I don't get accepted because I can speak well and I can't sign as well in ASL.

My half-brother is Deaf. Both of us come from hearing family. Both of us went to the same elementary schools. Both of us learned how to speak (although, I still talk well to this day, while he doesn't). He went to a residential school for the deaf later on in his life, I didn't. So, technically, he grew up culturally deaf because of his peers. He would be considered Deaf.

In closing - it pretty much has to do with how the child is raised and adults, such as Jillio for example, can be Deaf. I don't think I can ever be Deaf.

The one that that really yanks my craw is when a Deaf person comes up to me and says, "Are you Deaf or Hard of Hearing?". Then I tell them, "I'm Deaf." They look at me, "No you're not. You have CI (or HAs)". Or they would ask me ALL THE TIME, "Is your husband Deaf or Hearing?" I'm like, "what the hell does it make a difference whether I got a deaf or hearing husband?"

Oh well...I guess I'm deaf.
 
Big D vs. Little D (aka Faire_jour please don't go!)

We questioned whether you could assign a cultural identity to your daughter when you, yourself are not Deaf, and do not have an in depth understanding of, nor the ability to transmit Deaf culture to your child.
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Now this is an interesting debate. Unfortunatly the other thread was closed. I think Deaf friendly hearing parents CAN help transmit Deaf Culture to their dhh kids even if they aren't dhh themselves.
It's not culture as in familial, but on the other hand, faire jour DID try to see which culture was best for her daughter, by letting her daughter choose which langunage and methodology she wanted. Although that's rare, I think that could be simalir to the "cultral transmission" seen in some adopative families where the adoptive families try to transmit the culture of their adoptive kids to them.
 
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Thread's merged.
 
I think Deaf and deaf are more of words used to identify one's self.

It's probably like a person calling himself/herself... black or African American. Some people call themselves blacks. Some call themselves African Americans.

I've seen some people say they feel they are Deaf, but others say that this person isn't Deaf. So, who is to say whether a person is Deaf or deaf.
 
Not just being raised orally, but with the values and norms of hearing culture.
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Yes, but I think there's a HUGE difference between for example, an AG Bad type and a hoh person.
I think there could be a case made for identifying as culturely Hoh. Meaning you have a lot of "hearie" values and norms, but you also Sign and have values and cultures of the Deaf communtiy.
Actually Hear Again, I think you would be perilingally deaf. That is you aquirred your hearing loss when learning language.
 
This is interesting....

To be honest I never knew what i am all my life.

I was born profoundly deaf to hearing parents.
HA's at 10 months old
Taught to sign later spoke fluently later dropped sign because i chose to (i was 5)
Mainstreamed until i was 11, went to Oral deaf private boarding school until i was 16, Chose to leave early because i never fit in.
Attended deaf clubs, youth clubs, pubs... never fitted in because i am oral or from the particular school that they call us toffs.
All my growing up i didn't know where to fit in.
I blended in the hearing world, although it was hard but i was accepted...I have very few close deaf friends that were from my school. I tried to make new deaf friends... they are not interested, I am outgoing, full of life person so whats wrong there. It's the deaf community that is pushing people like me out... It's their loss anyway.
Big deaf, Little deaf I don't care, I am DEAF either way and proud of it. I have CI but I am STILL MEEEE.
I have just started volunteering for NDCS (national Deaf childrens socitey).
 
I use those word "I'm deaf" because I'm deaf until I registered American forums and learn from Americans what's the difference between Deaf and deaf...

I remember some threads somewhere saying that "D" is sign of "Pride" if you say I am Deaf = interpretation something like that "I am proud of being deaf"... :dunno:

I really never thought about this but all what I want to say is I accept and positive my deafness long, long time ago...
 
haha the D and d issue of discussing will never end.

i would think that i am a mutt between D and d. :D

my parents & siblings are hearing. I was born deaf, and attended to deaf school and hang out with deaf buddies. then my kids are hearing. my dh is deaf (not Deaf) and can sign. He has a ci that he can speak very well.

i still hang out with deaf buddies.
 
deafdyke said:
Actually Hear Again, I think you would be perilingally deaf. That is you aquirred your hearing loss when learning language.
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I've been looking all over for this thread.

Anyways, I don't know if I'm prelingual or not, but I was diagnosed with a mild hearing loss at age 3. I'll have to ask my CI audi whether or not I'm prelingual just for curiosity's sake. When I hear from her (no pun intended), I'll let you know.
 
By the way, I'd like to apologize for confusing everyone about my hearing loss. Jillio explained that I was not born with a mild hearing loss due to the fact that 1. I had secondary complications of ROP (i.e. mild hearing loss) which is an eye disease that occurs after birth and 2. I was given ototoxic drugs while in the neonatal ICU.
 
I think it's safe to say that I am little d deaf and probably will be that way forever. I am sure the Deaf community is perfectly fine with it... They don't need a little oral silly me. :)
 
Hear Again said:
Why is that Byrdie? The deafblind community shares many of the same struggles and concerns as the Deaf community -- if not more.
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naisho said:
The way I see Byrdie saying it is, (correct me if I'm wrong Byrdie, and he's probably gone to sleep for the night) the Deafblind is another spinoff of the Deaf community.

Just like how Cued Speech is another spinoff of ASL, but not literally.
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Deaf-blind is a sub-culture of the Deaf culture. The D/B may have some of the same struggles as the big "D" does but as I reiterated--it's a sub-culture due to the norms, values, that they have that doesn't parallel with the Deaf culture.

deafdyke said:
Now this is an interesting debate. Unfortunatly the other thread was closed. I think Deaf friendly hearing parents CAN help transmit Deaf Culture to their dhh kids even if they aren't dhh themselves. It's not culture as in familial, but on the other hand, faire jour DID try to see which culture was best for her daughter, by letting her daughter choose which langunage and methodology she wanted. Although that's rare, I think that could be simalir to the "cultral transmission" seen in some adopative families where the adoptive families try to transmit the culture of their adoptive kids to them.
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Deaf friendly hearing parents can always transmit deaf community but not Deaf culture until a significant amount of time has pass and will be part of the deaf community.
 
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