Al Sharpton arrested....

[Reba]

Are you for real? Some reporters are lazy and do not report all the accurately. Some would twisted the words to make it more interesting to grab the attention of readers, Some reporters do not tell us the whole entire story, we might hear one-side of the story. Some reporters stretch the truth....

Reporters are supposed to be accurate and check their facts.

You are right about them being lazy. In the "old days" good reporters pounded the pavement and worked the phones. That is, they got off their butts and went to meet people or visit events in person. They would also make phone calls to verify their facts. Now, many reporters accept the press releases that are handed out to them without questioning the facts. The papers and sites also use attribution of "unnamed sources". In the "old days" that was never acceptable. Every source had to be named either by the person's actual name, by title, or both. If it was "unnamed" or "unknown" it could only be used as background information but it could never be quoted in the story.

A hard news story must be just that--facts only, no opinion. However, there are ways to slant a story while still sticking with the facts. The words that are chosen, the placement of the story, the wording of the headline, the pictures that accompany the story, the facts that are left out; all those things can emphasize a viewpoint.

There are very few reputable pubs or sites that will accept "creativity" (false statements) by their news writers (after they've been found out) but that doesn't mean there is no bias in the news.

 

[Wokamuka]

Sharpton: It's all about the race

Show me one instance where Sharpton defended a person not of color.

FOXNews.com - Al Sharpton on Race Factor in 2008 Election - Bill O’Reilly | The O’Reilly Factor

Thurmond’s daughter: Sharpton ’overreacted’ - Race & ethnicity - MSNBC.com

Dick Cheny goes hunting,,,Al Sharpton uses Race Baiting | The News is NowPublic.com

National Writers Syndicate - Sharpton is Race Baiting Again

Imus producer: Sharpton a 'race-baiter' - USATODAY.com

BBTF's Newsblog Discussion :: Rev. Al Sharpton says race a factor in steroids scandals

 

[jillio]

Show me one instance where Sharpton defended a person not of color.

FOXNews.com - Al Sharpton on Race Factor in 2008 Election - Bill O’Reilly | The O’Reilly Factor

Thurmond’s daughter: Sharpton ’overreacted’ - Race & ethnicity - MSNBC.com

Dick Cheny goes hunting,,,Al Sharpton uses Race Baiting | The News is NowPublic.com

National Writers Syndicate - Sharpton is Race Baiting Again

Imus producer: Sharpton a 'race-baiter' - USATODAY.com

BBTF's Newsblog Discussion :: Rev. Al Sharpton says race a factor in steroids scandals

So he defends people of color. Why is that such an issue with you? He has been involved with civil rights issues since the late 1950's and early 1960's. Since civil rights violations predominantly occur against persons in minority groups, it makes perfect sense that he would defend people of color.

And, since you don't have a lsiting of all of his clients from the time of his passing the bar, you don't know what ethnicity all of his clients have been.

Whether you choose to believe it or not, there is a huge disparity between arrest, conviciton, and sentence between persons of color and caucasions. It needs to be addressed. Simply chosing to defend a person of color hardly qaulifies as "playing the race card."

 

[Reba]

So he defends people of color. Why is that such an issue with you? He has been involved with civil rights issues since the late 1950's and early 1960's. Since civil rights violations predominantly occur against persons in minority groups, it makes perfect sense that he would defend people of color.

And, since you don't have a lsiting of all of his clients from the time of his passing the bar, you don't know what ethnicity all of his clients have been.

Whether you choose to believe it or not, there is a huge disparity between arrest, conviciton, and sentence between persons of color and caucasions. It needs to be addressed. Simply chosing to defend a person of color hardly qaulifies as "playing the race card."

If he is truly concerned about justice, why does he limit himself to non-white victims? After it was proven that Tawana Brawley was a liar, did Sharpton do what he could to clear the names and reputations of the falsely accused cops? After it was proven that the Duke rape case was a hoax, did he apologize to those falsely accused students and try to make things right for them?

For the benefit of those ADers who haven't been following Sharpton's career, here's a brief history:

1987: Sharpton spreads the incendiary Tawana Brawley hoax, insisting heatedly that a 15-year-old black girl was abducted, raped, and smeared with feces by a group of white men. He singles out Steve Pagones, a young prosecutor. Pagones is wholly innocent -- the crime never occurred -- but Sharpton taunts him: "If we're lying, sue us, so we can . . . prove you did it." Pagones does sue, and eventually wins a $345,000 verdict for defamation. To this day, Sharpton refuses to recant his unspeakable slander or to apologize for his role in the odious affair.

1991: A Hasidic Jewish driver in Brooklyn's Crown Heights section accidentally kills Gavin Cato, a 7-year-old black child, and antisemitic riots erupt. Sharpton races to pour gasoline on the fire. At Gavin's funeral he rails against the "diamond merchants" -- code for Jews -- with "the blood of innocent babies" on their hands. He mobilizes hundreds of demonstrators to march through the Jewish neighborhood, chanting, "No justice, no peace." A rabbinical student, Yankel Rosenbaum, is surrounded by a mob shouting "Kill the Jews!" and stabbed to death.

1995: When the United House of Prayer, a large black landlord in Harlem, raises the rent on Freddy's Fashion Mart, Freddy's white Jewish owner is forced to raise the rent on his subtenant, a black-owned music store. A landlord-tenant dispute ensues; Sharpton uses it to incite racial hatred. "We will not stand by," he warns malignantly, "and allow them to move this brother so that some white interloper can expand his business." Sharpton's National Action Network sets up picket lines; customers going into Freddy's are spat on and cursed as "traitors" and "Uncle Toms." Some protesters shout, "Burn down the Jew store!" and simulate striking a match. "We're going to see that this cracker suffers," says Sharpton's colleague Morris Powell. On Dec. 8, one of the protesters bursts into Freddy's, shoots four employees point-blank, then sets the store on fire. Seven employees die in the inferno....

Al Sharpton: The Democrat's David Duke by Jeff Jacoby -- Capitalism Magazine

 

[Jiro]

Gee, I don't trust the police or cops nowdays. They are corrupted!

No Maria!! Don't let the few bad apples ruin it all for you! Remember - if your life was in danger by some intruder... what do you do? who do you count on?

I have a huge respect for law enforcements and they have always treated me with respect in return even though I got pulled over several times but half of time, they let me go. I've encountered just 1 or 2 pissant cops in my life but that doesn't make me lose my respect for cops.

Too bad I can't be NYPD..... I don't think they want to hire a HOH cop I take a great pride in serving the public so the best I can do for now is to work for government. Still waiting to hear from them on 2 government job positions....

 

[Cheri]

So he defends people of color. Why is that such an issue with you?

Racism can be found from citizens of all colors, ethnic backgrounds. He had made some racism remarks, He even said there would be blacks protesting in all states to keep Hillary Clinton from winning. He even called a Jewish man a 'white interloper' because he was going to raise his rent up. If we say something about black people we will be called racism, if He say something about white people, that's not racism? This how I view him, he plays the race cards way too much.

 

[Jiro]

I've been following Al Sharpton for years. I still don't see how he is playing the race card in this instance.

that's... extraordinary interesting.. I'm going to go out on street and randomly ask 10 people - "Do you think Al Sharpton is NOT playing the race card in Sean Bell case?" and "Have you recall Al Sharpton defending for non-black man like he did for Sean Bell?"

I bet you $50 that both answer are no. I'm beginning to think you don't live in USA or maybe you're color-blind? I think that's good that you're color-blind and we need more people like that but you're insane to say something like that for Al Sharpton.

he's not playing the race card in this instance.... best joke ever!

 

[jillio]

If he is truly concerned about justice, why does he limit himself to non-white victims?

Perhaps it is because people of color disproportionately are in need of representation due to the inequities in the justice system. And like I said, unless you have a complete list of all clients he has defended throughout his career, you can not unequicocally state that he does not defend caucasions. As a matter of fact, in the early 60's he represented both black and white individuals who were arrested during civil rights protests.
After it was proven that Tawana Brawley was a liar, did Sharpton do what he could to clear the names and reputations of the falsely accused cops?
Did the cops hire him as legal representation? Looks to me like it would have created a conflict of interest. [/CODE][/CODE]

After it was proven that the Duke rape case was a hoax, did he apologize to those falsely accused students and try to make things right for them?
I seriously doubt that any attorney makes it a practice to apologize after loosing a case, unless it is to his client.

For the benefit of those ADers who haven't been following Sharpton's career, here's a brief history:


Al Sharpton: The Democrat's David Duke by Jeff Jacoby -- Capitalism Magazine

Whether you agree with Al Sharpton's politics or not, is not the issue. By concentrating on that factor alone, you are simply feeding into what you have accused him of. You have changed the focus from the case being protested...the shooting of an unarmed man, and made it all about the Reverend Al. Looks like the tactics that you have accused him of are pretty effective.

 

[jillio]

that's... extraordinary interesting.. I'm going to go out on street and randomly ask 10 people - "Do you think Al Sharpton is NOT playing the race card in Sean Bell case?" and "Have you recall Al Sharpton defending for non-black man like he did for Sean Bell?"

I bet you $50 that both answer are no. I'm beginning to think you don't live in USA or maybe you're color-blind? I think that's good that you're color-blind and we need more people like that but you're insane to say something like that for Al Sharpton.

he's not playing the race card in this instance.... best joke ever!

Fact: the victim was of African American Decent. How is that fact playing the race card? It is simply a fact that cannot be denied.

Have you any information of a case where Al Sharpton's legal advise was sought out by a non-black man?

And if you are going to get a representative sample, you will need quite a few more than 10 people, plus you will need random sampling untilized in your choice.

Yes, I am color blind. And quite proud of that fact, thank you.

Why are you so insistent on concentrating on race? The fact of the matter is an unarmed man was shot by police officers, and a total of 50 bullets were unloaded into a car containing unarmed men. A gun was never found. Ocurrances such as this need to be protested. It matters not a whit what color the victims are. In this case, however, they happened to be Black.

 

[jillio]

Racism can be found from citizens of all colors, ethnic backgrounds. He had made some racism remarks, He even said there would be blacks protesting in all states to keep Hillary Clinton from winning. He even called a Jewish man a 'white interloper' because he was going to raise his rent up. If we say something about black people we will be called racism, if He say something about white people, that's not racism? This how I view him, he plays the race cards way too much.

You still have not explained how he is playing the race card in this instance. Perhpas Blacks will be protesting in all states to keep Hillary Clinton from winning because they believe that her winning the election will not serve their best interests. Why does it have to be because she is a white woman?

It never fails to amaze me that one group of people that have been oppressed by the majority and subjected to civil rights violations over the years, have been subjected to predjudice and discrimination in work education and opportunity simply because of a superfical difference can turn around, and with good conscious, condone the same against another minority group.

 

[Cheri]

It matters not a whit what color the victims are. In this case, however, they happened to be Black.

It can happen to anyone not because they happened to be black, There was one time when a police was responding to a false shooting call, the police broke into a deaf person's apartment and shot him with a taser when he was getting out of his bath. Do you see any deaf people protesting and defending their own culture? There was another deaf person who was fatally shot in the back at a bus stop, the police mistook him for a weapon, but it was a card saying he was deaf. Police are just humans, they make mistakes.

 

[harleymn]

Yeah

Those two are just writers that works for the press, Reverend Sharpton does talk to the media. You need to do a research on Sharpton, You'll see how he does play the race card.

I agree with Cheri, the press are looking for some excuse to sayand get paid for thier article etc. I dont trust all press like esqiure etc . But anyway I like to check out facts before i jump into it rite ???

 

[jillio]

It can happen to anyone not because they happened to be black, There was one time when a police was responding to a false shooting call, the police broke into a deaf person's apartment and shot him with a taser when he was getting out of his bath. Do you see any deaf people protesting and defending their own culture? There was another deaf person who was fatally shot in the back at a bus stop, the police mistook him for a weapon, but it was a card saying he was deaf. Police are just humans, they make mistakes.

Those are some mistakes! Maybe the Deaf should have protested and defended their culture. Make the police, and the general public, a little more aware so it doesn't continue to happen. Someone should not loose their life because the police thought a card was a weapon. If you aren't willing to stand up for injustice such as this, it could very well be you next.

You cannot deny the fact that the are disproportionate shootings and arrests, not to mention jail time and longer sentences, for minority groups, and especially those of African American decent.

But again. how exactly is Al Sharpton playing the race card in this instance?

 

[jillio]

I agree with Cheri, the press are looking for some excuse to sayand get paid for thier article etc. I dont trust all press like esqiure etc . But anyway I like to check out facts before i jump into it rite ???

Looks like you'd be better off trusting the press than the police. They don't shoot unarmed people.

 

[harleymn]

Looks like you'd be better off trusting the press than the police. They don't shoot unarmed people.

Trusting the press cmon theres no trial etc , I said I like to get my fact not from two guys from the same press , I dont jump into till the investigation is done the press is not!!! ok they get paid to show thier story where did they get thier facts u ought know better okay thats all !!!!! just wait till the trial starts then go from there not the press rite !!!

 

[Jiro]

Why are you so insistent on concentrating on race? The fact of the matter is an unarmed man was shot by police officers, and a total of 50 bullets were unloaded into a car containing unarmed men. A gun was never found. Ocurrances such as this need to be protested. It matters not a whit what color the victims are. In this case, however, they happened to be Black.

Let's see...

Al Sharpton and his activisms -
1. Howard Beach - 3 African-American men were assaulted in Howard Beach by a mob of white men
2. Tawana Brawley - 15-years old black girl claimed to be assaulted and raped by 6 white men
3. Bensonhurst - 4 black teenagers beaten by a group of white youths
4. Crown Heights Riot - 7 years old Guyanese (African) killed by Jewish driver but police gave driver preferential treatment and ignored a boy
5. Freddie's Fashion Mart - "We will not stand by and allow them to move this brother so that some white interloper can expand his business."
6. Amadou Diallo - black
7. Vieques - black
8. Ousmane Zongo - black
9. Duke lacrosse players - black female rape victim
10. Sean Bell - black
11. Dunbar Villager - black
12. etc. etc. etc. - black black black
13. Founded National Action Network - guess what? a non-profit, black civil rights organization! Black Power!

OY! It's getting tiring! YUP it's the race card! need any more proof that pretty much everything he does is a race card. That's his "schtick."

In Sean Bell case - there were 2 white officers and 2 black officers. Obviously NYPD can't have 4 white officers on this case so they include 2 black officers to avoid racial outcry if shit happens.

 

[Dixie]

which shit did happen and guess who's catching it? the two white officers..... :roll:

this thread went downhill fast.....

 

[Byrdie714]

which shit did happen and guess who's catching it? the two white officers..... :roll:

this thread went downhill fast.....

Actually the police officers that were acquitted in this particular shooting weren't white.

They were men of color.

 

[jillio]

Trusting the press cmon theres no trial etc , I said I like to get my fact not from two guys from the same press , I dont jump into till the investigation is done the press is not!!! ok they get paid to show thier story where did they get thier facts u ought know better okay thats all !!!!! just wait till the trial starts then go from there not the press rite !!!

And the police get paid, too. The trail has already happened. The police officers were acquited. That's why they are protesting.

 

[jillio]

Actually the police officers that were acquitted in this particular shooting weren't white.

They were men of color.

Not all of them. There was one black, two white, and one Hispanic. Another reason why this has nothing to do with a race card.