Advice please: son doesn't want to wear HAs

Beowulf said:
This makes me think back to my high school days. I was the only deafie in the whole school, and this was before interpreters were available. It was a miserable time and I know I still bear psychological scars from it. What could my parents or teachers do to change it? It turns out, upon reflection, not a hell of a lot. I had to learn on my own, since everyone may as well could have been speaking an unknown alien language, and I survived. That is all I can say, I survived. I sure hope it is far different today. :hmm:
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I hope so too... but for deaf children that cannot hear, I fear that not much has changed since 90% is still not understanding the teacher according to the specialists in this thread.

Was there no Deaf community in your area where you could attend school? or get help from Deaf people.?
 
Hearing aids and CIs make deaf/HOH people hearing. You heard it here first. :crazy:
 
Cloggy said:
I hope so too... but for deaf children that cannot hear, I fear that not much has changed since 90% is still not understanding the teacher according to the specialists in this thread.

Was there no Deaf community in your area where you could attend school? or get help from Deaf people.?
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I didn't meet other deaf people until after I graduated. I attended NTID without knowing sign language, so of course I got kicked out. :lol:
It is dumb to have regrets now, so I don't really have any.
 
sallylou said:
Hearing aids and CIs make deaf/HOH people hearing. You heard it here first. :crazy:
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Hearing aids and CI's allow deaf people to hear.... But "..make deaf/HOH people hearing" :crazy:... Sorry, havent seen that statement here. Except in your post.

Please - define "hearing"
 
Hearing people who don't hear me: my teenager. :lol:
 
Cloggy said:
Me neither.. Sorry.. 90%
Excellent info. Thanks... But it sounds as if it wasn't "incidental" but that you worked hard for it..

Yes, plenty of stories.... Also plenty of stories where people had no problem in school....


Time for some research I guess..
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I didn't work hard in elementary (and junior) school at all. Learning-wise, it was very easy for me. I learned only out of sheer utter boredom. I didn't open my textbooks with this urgent desire to learn. I read them because i was slowly going insane from boredom and frustration and needed something to keep me mentally occupied and learned things as a result. otherwise I would just be staring at walls for six hours a day or be morbidly fascinated with how the teacher's arm would flap as she wrote on the blackboard.

What I dreaded was finishing my textbooks only halfway through the school year for it meant I had to re-read them again

You heard plenty of stories of deaf kids who had no problems in school?

Where did you find those stories?
 
DeafCaroline said:
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You heard plenty of stories of deaf kids who had no problems in school?
Where did you find those stories?
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Here.. Mainly good experiences on deaf schools, but some on mainstream as well...
Mainly bad experiences on mainstream school, but also on Deaf schools... Still wondering where the experts get the 90%...
I asked you to show me where 90% comes from.. but you didn't come with an answer...
 
Cloggy said:
Here.. Mainly good experiences on deaf schools, but some on mainstream as well...
Mainly bad experiences on mainstream school, but also on Deaf schools... Still wondering where the experts get the 90%...
I asked you to show me where 90% comes from.. but you didn't come with an answer...
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We've been talking about deaf kids in hearing/oral schools - so was deafdyke. So your comments about "plenty of good stories about deaf kids in deaf schools" doesn't really apply in this case. Can we stick to the topic at hand?

I was speaking from personal experience when I said that 90% estimate was bang on and from the stories I've read of others who were raised similarly to me (and many here described their experiences that seemed identical to mine), seemed like it was about the same estimate for them if not even more than 90%.

I don't know if deafdyke got that estimate from reports or publications, so you can ask her where she got that estimate from. And no one said "experts say 90% of deaf kids in mainstream/oral classes..." you're putting words into our mouths when we didn't say such things. Might help to go back a few pages and review the chain of posts before posting so we're clear on what was actually said.
 
DeafCaroline said:
We've been talking about deaf kids in hearing/oral schools - so was deafdyke. So your comments about "plenty of good stories about deaf kids in deaf schools" doesn't really apply in this case. Can we stick to the topic at hand?

I was speaking from personal experience when I said that 90% estimate was bang on and from the stories I've read of others who were raised similarly to me (and many here described their experiences that seemed identical to mine), seemed like it was about the same estimate for them if not even more than 90%.

I don't know if deafdyke got that estimate from reports or publications, so you can ask her where she got that estimate from. And no one said "experts say 90% of deaf kids in mainstream/oral classes..." you're putting words into our mouths when we didn't say such things. Might help to go back a few pages and review the chain of posts before posting so we're clear on what was actually said.
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I was one of those deaf kids... raised orally, told i was just a broken hearing person, but into a hearing school... I was fantastic at math (still am) it makes sence to me, I can solve equations without having to write them out... I understood the complexities... because they were pictures in my head... on the other hand... I could not, and still can't spell to save my life, grammar is also very hard for me. I tend to use run on sentences, or cut sentences short. I ended up graduating college, finally with some help, .01 from honnors... I was bored in elementary school and middle school... so I acted out instead of doing what you did... I got held back in kindergarten... not because I didn't know the work, but because I wouldn't "listen" to the teacher when she was talking to me... my second year of kindergarten I was reading at a 4th grade level, doing 3rd grade math and loving learning from my peers and on my own... yes... my peers... not my teacher. I do not think I had a teacher that was actually helpful, that I learned from, until High School.
 
Cloggy said:
Hearing aids and CI's allow deaf people to hear.... But "..make deaf/HOH people hearing" :crazy:... Sorry, havent seen that statement here. Except in your post.

Please - define "hearing"
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really... I didn't know that I could hear... I didn't know that with my back turned I can hear my SO and understand the words coming out of her mouth... I didn't know that I could hear my phone ring when it is inches from my face... No... I can feel it ring, I can see it ring, I can see her talking to me... but hear it... no. I can't hear my phone ring with my HA's on either...
 
sallylou said:
Hearing aids and CIs make deaf/HOH people hearing. You heard it here first. :crazy:
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Cloggy, what you do not understand is that hearing aids and CIs make dhh people functionally HOH. Not hearing. There is a giant difference between hoh and hearing.....and besides the world is not a soundbooth. Performance on hearing tests generally do not translate well into the real world.
 
deafdyke said:
Cloggy, what you do not understand is that hearing aids and CIs make dhh people functionally HOH. Not hearing. There is a giant difference between hoh and hearing.....and besides the world is not a soundbooth. Performance on hearing tests generally do not translate well into the real world.
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I know...
What you might not realize is that for deaf children who are implanted early in life this is not so much the case...
I apologize for the confusion.. You have in mind deaf people that have HA. I have in mind deaf children that have CI. Totally different group.. hearing wise..
 
How many of our stories have to be told before hearing people really fully understand the consequences of being in a very restrictive educational environment?
 
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