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melissa said:
Me neither. IMHO, the 'Abortion Addict' has/had a mental illness/mental issues, which manifested themselves with her through multiple, deliberate abortions. Other people's issues may manifest themselves through alcoholism, eating disorders, compulsive gambling- it could be anything, and it's never about the alcohol, or the food, or the money- it's not to be taken at face value.
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Very well said, melissa! I applaud you. You have developed quite a bit of insight.
 
VamPyroX said:
This reminds me of someone I knew at RIT. She had a serious drinking and drug problem. She would go out almost every night and get drunk and stoned. She would often have sex with guys that she met at parties and wake up not remembering who she slept with. She would also end up being pregnant. Since she didn't want to pay to have an abortion, she would keep drinking and doing drugs trying to cause a miscarriage. Of course, she succeeded. It never ended for her, she kept doing it over and over. She had gotten pregnant like 5 to 7 times in 2 years... which she had a forced miscarriage for all of them. :roll:
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Lina?
 
Me think Abortion Addict means someone who loves being pregnant but don't want to have children.
 
daystarnite said:
Me think Abortion Addict means someone who loves being pregnant but don't want to have children.
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perhaps! as an insidious way to anchor a man to herself.... in other word - "attention whore"
 
Jiro said:
perhaps! as an insidious way to anchor a man to herself.... in other word - "attention whore"
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That would be more someone who fakes a pregnancy. The woman in this article has some deep seated issues. More closely related to a PTSD sufferer.
 
She may have felt that she would be betraying her mother by having children. A survivor's guilt kind of thing. Maybe she didn't believe that she deserved to have children. Whatever it was, I hope that she's doing better.
 
sallylou said:
She may have felt that she would be betraying her mother by having children. A survivor's guilt kind of thing. Maybe she didn't believe that she deserved to have children. Whatever it was, I hope that she's doing better.
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or her life was full of men "abandoning" her such as her father, boyfriend, etc. Sounds like she's a clingy type. I only hope that she would seek help and come out as a strong independent survivor who can stand on her own feet.
 
kokonut said:
I wasn't the one who coined the words "abortion" and "addict" in the same sentence.
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no but you are the one who is spinning this into abortion debate while ignoring everything else.

it's old.... getting way too old. go ahead and re-fire it all but you will never win. Abortion will remain legal for a very long time. long enough to your grandchil's generation and beyond. :aw:

it is sad that you are ignoring her cry for help. it is disgusting that you wanted to use her as a shaming example for legality of abortion.
 
That's very perceptive, Jiro. She probably does have abandonment issues. Many people do, and so do I. Those issues can be addressed with a good therapist. I hope that opening up and telling her story helps her heal. Now she can get support from others.
 
Thanks, Jillio! I've always been interested in psychology so when I 'became' depressed at 18/19 I read as much as I could to educate myself. I'm 24 now so it's been 6 or so years of reading.

I've had a number of people offer me their 'advice' about eating disorders by saying things like 'Anorexics think they're fat when they're not- you're not thin enough to be anorexic' and 'The Romans used to throw up too'- needless to say that particular ex-boyfriend is long gone. One of my best friends is a recovered/ing alcoholic with a psychology degree, so we often talk about psychological issues. The main thing/s I've learnt is that anyone can have mental illness, it can manifest itself in a million kinds of physical behaviours, and the behaviour itself (although often harmful) is not the actual problem.

I too hope she is seeing/has seen a therapist- a good therapist can make a world of difference to someones' life.
 
kokonut said:
I wasn't the one who coined the words "abortion" and "addict" in the same sentence.
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"It wasn't me, Mom! He hit first. I just kept hitting him because he hit me first! So what if I hit him twenty times."
 
melissa said:
Thanks, Jillio! I've always been interested in psychology so when I 'became' depressed at 18/19 I read as much as I could to educate myself. I'm 24 now so it's been 6 or so years of reading.

I've had a number of people offer me their 'advice' about eating disorders by saying things like 'Anorexics think they're fat when they're not- you're not thin enough to be anorexic' and 'The Romans used to throw up too'- needless to say that particular ex-boyfriend is long gone. One of my best friends is a recovered/ing alcoholic with a psychology degree, so we often talk about psychological issues. The main thing/s I've learnt is that anyone can have mental illness, it can manifest itself in a million kinds of physical behaviours, and the behaviour itself (although often harmful) is not the actual problem.

I too hope she is seeing/has seen a therapist- a good therapist can make a world of difference to someones' life.
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If all of my clients were willing to take responsibility for partnership in their own treatment plans, my job would be an easy one indeed. You are a rare gem.
 
Jiro said:
or her life was full of men "abandoning" her such as her father, boyfriend, etc. Sounds like she's a clingy type. I only hope that she would seek help and come out as a strong independent survivor who can stand on her own feet.
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I'm sure that abandonment issues are tied to her problems. It is not unusual at all in several types of disorders.
 
Just wait... we just don't know if the woman is telling the truth. I don't want to fall for it if she is actually doing on purpose for attention and, probably, lying. I don't want to waste my time if it turns out that is not what you think, you know?

Truth or not, we all can agree that she does need a help and support for her mental issue.

"Closed case" option is suppose be an answer to this thread...
 
Re: Jillio-

Well, I had a good few years of doing nothing and complaining it wasn't working ;-) and I have negative thinking that can be extremely stubborn. So don't be fooled- as a person and a patient I could quite well irritate you immensely!

For the most part I just enjoyed psychology as a topic, but when you can relate it to yourself it's infinitely more interesting. I would like to do Psychology A-Level at some point. I can't remember where you are but an A-Level is a 2 year post-secondary, pre-degree qualification, usually taken by ages 16-18.

My mum and I both had negative experiences with our doctors and realised it's more fulfilling to find out for yourself what could help you, and ask for it. I used to see a counsellor at uni, sit there, talk, and leave- that was it. Now I see a (CBT) therapist, fill in activity sheets and monitor my mood, and attend a course which deals with self-esteem and getting back into work. Only a few months ago I was sat at home, no therapist, bemoaning my unemployed status and not doing anything about it.

I guess the thing for me was accepting that I don't like the feelings/behaviours I'm having, and seeing what help I could get so I can live the way I want to- which applies to the 'Abortion Addict' too- breaking the cycle is so important.
 
melissa said:
Re: Jillio-

Well, I had a good few years of doing nothing and complaining it wasn't working ;-) and I have negative thinking that can be extremely stubborn. So don't be fooled- as a person and a patient I could quite well irritate you immensely!

For the most part I just enjoyed psychology as a topic, but when you can relate it to yourself it's infinitely more interesting. I would like to do Psychology A-Level at some point. I can't remember where you are but an A-Level is a 2 year post-secondary, pre-degree qualification, usually taken by ages 16-18.

My mum and I both had negative experiences with our doctors and realised it's more fulfilling to find out for yourself what could help you, and ask for it. I used to see a counsellor at uni, sit there, talk, and leave- that was it. Now I see a (CBT) therapist, fill in activity sheets and monitor my mood, and attend a course which deals with self-esteem and getting back into work. Only a few months ago I was sat at home, no therapist, bemoaning my unemployed status and not doing anything about it.

I guess the thing for me was accepting that I don't like the feelings/behaviours I'm having, and seeing what help I could get so I can live the way I want to- which applies to the 'Abortion Addict' too- breaking the cycle is so important.
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I am post-doctorate in counseling psychology. I would certainly encourage you to reach for your goals. With the amount of insight you have shown, and your ability to see beneath the surface, I would say the profession would be welcoming to you.

And I agree: breaking the cycle is the key, and it does apply to this thread in a very real way.
 
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