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kokonut said:
Too many abortions is now a mental health issue even though she made is clear on intent to do so?
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Yeah, basically. Just like masturbating too many times a day is considered a behavior that requires medical attention. Someone who bathes too many times a day is considered in need of psychological help as well. There's nothing wrong with masturbation or bathing in and of themselves, but there is something wrong when someone feels the need to bathe 17 times a day or to masturbate 5 times every hour.
 
kokonut said:
So, it's the increasing number of surgical procedures that is the issue and not the number of abortions? But it's her body, her decision. What's the real issue here? Too many abortions of human beings or too many surgical procedures that would increase the risk of endangering oneself? How so?
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The real issue is the tragic and abusive history she has suffered, the abuse that was perpetrated against her mother, and her mental health status. Abortion isn't the issue at all. Shame you can't seem to see that, despite the numerous times it has been reinterated.
 
kokonut said:
Too many abortions is now a mental health issue even though she made is clear on intent to do so?
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Are you being purposely obtuse, or do you truly not understand cause and effect?
 
CJB said:
Yeah, basically. Just like masturbating too many times a day is considered a behavior that requires medical attention. Someone who bathes too many times a day is considered in need of psychological help as well. There's nothing wrong with masturbation or bathing in and of themselves, but there is something wrong when someone feels the need to bathe 17 times a day or to masturbate 5 times every hour.
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Nice way to break it down.
 
I find it hard to believe that after all the years of mental illness, 15 abortions....then she gets "some help", then has 2 more children. Say what? And now she's fine, and fit to raise 2 more children? She feels "guilt" for her past? And writes a book. Seems she's made an "amazing recovery" in so short of time! For a lot of people, mental illness is a lifetime battle, it just doesn't disappear in several years. Would I "worry" about her 2 surviving children? Yes, I would.

No, I (for one) am not about to "stone" her....her deed is done and over. She has to live with it, suffer the consequences, and the burden on her conscience must be overwhelming, or she would not be broadcasting it.
 
Why would you find it so hard to accept? People recover from past trauma and mental health issues all the time. I suggest that you are simply blinded by the word "abortion", and therefore are judging this woman too harshly as a result. Would you be so judgemental about someone with 15 suicide attempts in their history?

People can recover. People can change. And the fact that she is sharing her story may be the very thing that will prevent another person from walking the same path that she had to walk before getting proper help for her problems.

Why would she make her story public? To help others. It certainly isn't to soothe her conscious. Just look at the way people have judged her here. Multiply that a thousand times, and that is the judgement she receives from wider society. She took a great personal risk in making her story public. If it helps one person, she has done more than those who sit back and pass judgement on her for having a mental disorder.
 
rockin'robin said:
I find it hard to believe that after all the years of mental illness, 15 abortions....then she gets "some help", then has 2 more children. Say what? And now she's fine, and fit to raise 2 more children? She feels "guilt" for her past? And writes a book. Seems she's made an "amazing recovery" in so short of time! For a lot of people, mental illness is a lifetime battle, it just doesn't disappear in several years. Would I "worry" about her 2 surviving children? Yes, I would.

No, I (for one) am not about to "stone" her....her deed is done and over. She has to live with it, suffer the consequences, and the burden on her conscience must be overwhelming, or she would not be broadcasting it.
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The article said that her troubled past continues to haunt her. She probably isnt "recovered" but has reached the point where she recognizes that she has an illness and is willing to receive help to address it.
 
jillio said:
Why would you find it so hard to accept? People recover from past trauma and mental health issues all the time. I suggest that you are simply blinded by the word "abortion", and therefore are judging this woman too harshly as a result. Would you be so judgemental about someone with 15 suicide attempts in their history?

People can recover. People can change. And the fact that she is sharing her story may be the very thing that will prevent another person from walking the same path that she had to walk before getting proper help for her problems.

Why would she make her story public? To help others. It certainly isn't to soothe her conscious. Just look at the way people have judged her here. Multiply that a thousand times, and that is the judgement she receives from wider society. She took a great personal risk in making her story public. If it helps one person, she has done more than those who sit back and pass judgement on her for having a mental disorder.
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Yea, it seems the word "abortion" became the sole focus here.
 
shel90 said:
Didnt you read all the posts? Like I said, stone her if that will make u feel better.
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Why would I want to stone her? Like I said, abortion is legal. Her body, her decision as they. What's another several extra dead pre-born human beings on her conscious regardless of her reason(s) for having those abortions?
 
kokonut said:
Why would I want to stone her? Like I said, abortion is legal. Her body, her decision as they. What's another several extra dead pre-born human beings on her conscious regardless of her reason(s) for having those abortions?
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U keep bringing up abortion rather than focus on her underlying issues. I know that there are people who want to blast her for all those abortions. Would that really help her in the long run? Probably not.
 
kokonut said:
Why would I want to stone her? Like I said, abortion is legal. Her body, her decision as they. What's another several extra dead pre-born human beings on her conscious regardless of her reason(s) for having those abortions?
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so what would you like the legislators to do about it?
 
kokonut said:
Why would I want to stone her? Like I said, abortion is legal. Her body, her decision as they. What's another several extra dead pre-born human beings on her conscious regardless of her reason(s) for having those abortions?
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Several contradictions in terms contained in your post, and the wording is evidence of the attempt to promote a personal agenda rather than to look at the issue as it exists. Just more judgement. Don't be surprised when others judge you as you seem to be so willing to judge others. You get back what you put out.
 
Jiro said:
so what would you like the legislators to do about it?
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He wants them to stone her!:giggle: That way he can say, "I didn't throw the rocks!" :D

The narrow mindedness and inability to see past a single word never ceases to amaze me.
 
This reminds me of someone I knew at RIT. She had a serious drinking and drug problem. She would go out almost every night and get drunk and stoned. She would often have sex with guys that she met at parties and wake up not remembering who she slept with. She would also end up being pregnant. Since she didn't want to pay to have an abortion, she would keep drinking and doing drugs trying to cause a miscarriage. Of course, she succeeded. It never ended for her, she kept doing it over and over. She had gotten pregnant like 5 to 7 times in 2 years... which she had a forced miscarriage for all of them. :roll:
 
VamPyroX said:
This reminds me of someone I knew at RIT. She had a serious drinking and drug problem. She would go out almost every night and get drunk and stoned. She would often have sex with guys that she met at parties and wake up not remembering who she slept with. She would also end up being pregnant. Since she didn't want to pay to have an abortion, she would keep drinking and doing drugs trying to cause a miscarriage. Of course, she succeeded. It never ended for her, she kept doing it over and over. She had gotten pregnant like 5 to 7 times in 2 years... which she had a forced miscarriage for all of them. :roll:
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Sounds like she had some serious mental health issues that needed to be dealt with as well. The type of behavior you described is evidence enough that she was not mentally and emotionally healthy.
 
jillio said:
Sounds like she had some serious mental health issues that needed to be dealt with as well. The type of behavior you described is evidence enough that she was not mentally and emotionally healthy.
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Yeah. She got kicked out of school because she missed too many classes. She thinks it's because her teachers simply don't like her and not because she missed too many classes. :roll:

She had at least 1 more forced miscarriage after I last saw her a few years ago. I don't know what she's up to these days. :dunno:

It does make me wonder who she did it with and where she went when these things happened. :Ohno:
 
VamPyroX said:
This reminds me of someone I knew at RIT. She had a serious drinking and drug problem. She would go out almost every night and get drunk and stoned. She would often have sex with guys that she met at parties and wake up not remembering who she slept with. She would also end up being pregnant. Since she didn't want to pay to have an abortion, she would keep drinking and doing drugs trying to cause a miscarriage. Of course, she succeeded. It never ended for her, she kept doing it over and over. She had gotten pregnant like 5 to 7 times in 2 years... which she had a forced miscarriage for all of them. :roll:
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I'm...... speechless....... I'm not sure but was RIT supposed to try to take care of her with counseling service?
 
shel90 said:
U keep bringing up abortion rather than focus on her underlying issues. I know that there are people who want to blast her for all those abortions. Would that really help her in the long run? Probably not.
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Either the underlying issue is about the reason why she is doing all these abortions (i.e empowerment) by doing it on purpose (get pregnant) or that she has done "too many" abortions. Regardless, the end result is still the same. But I guess for some it's about the horror of finding out why abortions were done.
 
VamPyroX said:
Yeah. She got kicked out of school because she missed too many classes. She thinks it's because her teachers simply don't like her and not because she missed too many classes. :roll:

She had at least 1 more forced miscarriage after I last saw her a few years ago. I don't know what she's up to these days. :dunno:

It does make me wonder who she did it with and where she went when these things happened. :Ohno:
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Its very typical for someone who exhibits the kind of behavior you described to alway claim it is the "other person's fault". Until they are ready to accept their own contributions to the situation, no one can help them much.

I hope that she has gotten some help since you saw her last. If not, she is no doubt still living a life of misery.
 
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