A woman's right?

[shel90]

And, put the children through all of that misery and trauma?

Right and then the cycle would be most likely to be repeated. Not saying that abortion wouldnt solve all the problems but by making illegal would definitely create more problems.

 

[jillio]

Right and then the cycle would be most likely to be repeated. Not saying that abortion wouldnt solve all the problems but by making illegal would definitely create more problems.

Absolutely. Statistics show (and I linked in the post about this, everyone) that the child of a teenaged mother is more likely to become a teenaged mother or father.

 

[Cheri]

Exactly. What kind of logic is "adults do it too!"? So because adults do it, we should ignore the incidents that happen with teenaged parents?

Of course not, The truth is that you keep continue to judge them all harshly, it does not mean that all teenagers are doomed to be bad parents, I think you really should give them benefits of doubt, if they turn out to be bad parents then judge them but don't judge them without given a chance to prove themselves, that's not fair. I think you rather to see that all teens should have the abortion because they're too young, irresponsible, and they're children themselves. *smh*

 

[Jiro]

Of course it would be horrific. But, on the other hand there are some adult parents who are drug addicts also. Some parents are just not meant to be parents. It's the truth.

If I were your husband, I would report the cousins. He'll save those children's life.

and what do you suggest for pregnant drug addicts? lemme guess... foster care, right?

it continues to puzzle me that anti-abortionists think welfare/foster care is the answer for all. How convenient of them to shove them into a little house..... and not worry the later consequence as they grow up.

"hey I saved a life from being aborted!" ......... while that life will be subjected to broken system, poverty, broken family, abuse, etc....

 

[Jiro]

Of course not, The truth is that you keep continue to judge them all harshly, it does not mean that all teenagers are doomed to be bad parents, I think you really should give them benefits of doubt, if they turn out to be bad parents then judge them but don't judge them without given a chance to prove themselves, that's not fair. I think you rather to see that all teens should have the abortion because they're too young, irresponsible, and they're children themselves. *smh*

I'm sorry but the statistic is overwhelming enough to show that teenage parents with no educations do not fare well and the result is usually disastrous - typically.... resulting in a loss of life which is their baby.

Of course every statistic has outliers... and that outliers are the people who actually did come out OK.

 

[jillio]

Of course not, The truth is that you keep continue to judge them all harshly, it does not mean that all teenagers are doomed to be bad parents, I think you really should give them benefits of doubt, if they turn out to be bad parents then judge them but don't judge them without given a chance to prove themselves, that's not fair. I think you rather to see that all teens should have the abortion because they're too young, irresponsible, and they're children themselves. *smh*

Oh, I see. Your solution, instead of preventing the situation, is to wait until a teenaged parent kills or seriously injures their child. Yeah, lets just sacrifice the kid to give them the benefit of the doubt. There's a pro-life, protect the children logic for you.:roll:

 

[Cheri]

Then by that statement, we should keep abortion legal if there are so many people out there who arent fit to be parents. Why force them to carry the pregnancy to full term if they dont want it?

Who is forcing them to carry the pregnancy full term? I don't see anyone saying that on this thread. :shrug:

Just because I'm a pro-lifer, it doesn't mean I will force anyone to carry their pregnancy full term. I've said this many times already that I would not stand in front of an abortion clinic and block pregnant women from enter the door of an abortion clinic.

 

[Jiro]

Who is forcing them to carry the pregnancy full term? I don't see anyone saying that on this thread. :shrug:

Just because I'm a pro-lifer, it doesn't mean I will force anyone to carry their pregnancy full term. I've said this many times already that I would not stand in front of an abortion clinic and block pregnant women from enter the door of an abortion clinic.

that makes absolutely no sense at all. Your stance alone as pro-lifer is already enough to force anyone to carry their pregnancy to full term. How? by voting for pro-lifer politicians... by supporting the anti-abortion laws...

btw - Cheri probably can't read this since I'm on her ignore list.

 

[shel90]

Who is forcing them to carry the pregnancy full term? I don't see anyone saying that on this thread. :shrug:

Just because I'm a pro-lifer, it doesn't mean I will force anyone to carry their pregnancy full term. I've said this many times already that I would not stand in front of an abortion clinic and block pregnant women from enter the door of an abortion clinic.

Talking about those who want Roe vs. Wade overturned and that it is not the women's right to abort. I thought you were one of them?

 

[shel90]

that makes absolutely no sense at all. Your stance alone as pro-lifer is already enough to force anyone to carry their pregnancy to full term. How? by voting for pro-lifer politicians... by supporting the anti-abortion laws...

btw - Cheri probably can't read this since I'm on her ignore list.

Just asked her almost the same question.

 

[shel90]

I'm sorry but the statistic is overwhelming enough to show that teenage parents with no educations do not fare well and the result is usually disastrous - typically.... resulting in a loss of life which is their baby.

Of course every statistic has outliers... and that outliers are the people who actually did come out OK.

And I was one of the outliners but I dont wear blindfolds to this crisis.

 

[Cheri]

Oh, I see. Your solution, instead of preventing the situation, is to wait until a teenaged parent kills or seriously injures their child. Yeah, lets just sacrifice the kid to give them the benefit of the doubt. There's a pro-life, protect the children logic for you.:roll:

We can’t predict the future, what is your suggestion? have them all to have an abortion?

From what I see from you, is that you aren't a pro-choice, you're more a pro-abortion.

 

[Jiro]

We can’t predict the future, what is your suggestion? have them all to have an abortion?

From what I see from you, is that you aren't a pro-choice, you're more a pro-abortion.

utter fallacy. It's her choice to choose abortion or not. Same for anybody. People under anti-abortion laws ended up becoming a bad statistic like you see above.

 

[jillio]

We can’t predict the future, what is your suggestion? have them all to have an abortion?

From what I see from you, is that you aren't a pro-choice, you're more a pro-abortion.

Actually, Cheri, the future can be predicted. A probability can definately be determined.

What is the solution. Sex education, access to birth control, abolishing the "abstinence only" programs, taking off the blinders to reality, and keeping first trimester abortion legal as a possible alternative to be included with all others.

Prevention is the solution, Cheri. Its obvious.

I am pro-abortion in that I strongly believe and support the concept of elective, first trimester abortion and as a viable and safe alternative.

Looks like you are willing to risk the lives of infants in order to take away a woman's right to choose.

 

[faire_jour]

exactly... a 12 years old kid smoking 1 pack a day is as alarming as adult doing same? methinks not...

So it is more terrible that a teen kills her baby than an adult? Huh?

 

[Jiro]

So it is more terrible that a teen kills her baby than an adult? Huh?

I know where you're going with this. Here.. try this. By going with that logic - you would show R-rated sexually-explicit movies to your child because your child is no different than adult.

get it?

 

[shel90]

So it is more terrible that a teen kills her baby than an adult? Huh?

I think what Jiro is saying that teenager's bodies are still developing and that smoking crack has a more adverse affect on their development than it would in an adult. Not saying both situations are ok but for teenagers, it is worse.

Nothing about killing as that is a different situation.

 

[Cheri]

Talking about those who want Roe vs. Wade overturned and that it is not the women's right to abort. I thought you were one of them?

Well it's true but, some people have abortions for stupid reasons, no matter how many times they're keep having sex, they keep having abortions uses it as another way of using birth control. Why continue to have sex if they're not ready to have a baby? This is what I don't understand. I think a lot of people had abused the law on abortion, just because it's legal, it doesn't mean you can take advantage of it. I do think abortion is wrong that everyone should have their fair shot at life, but that's just what I believe, but I won't stand in their way though.

 

[jillio]

Well it's true but, some people have abortions for stupid reasons, no matter how many times they're keep having sex, they keep having abortions uses it as another way of using birth control. Why continue to have sex if they're not ready to have a baby? This is what I don't understand. I think a lot of people had abused the law on abortion, just because it's legal, it doesn't mean you can take advantage of it. I do think abortion is wrong that everyone should have their fair shot at life, but that's just what I believe, but I won't stand in their way though.

No, you just judge them because they don't believe the same as you. And would be perfectly satisfied if their choice was taken away.

 

[Cheri]

So it is more terrible that a teen kills her baby than an adult? Huh?

That's what it seems like. :roll: