9/11 - what happened?

[Liebling:-)))]

Do you have a link to where the US Media said the Israelis were warned to leave WTC before the attacks? I recall that it was a hoax. If you agree that it was false then why do you keep bringing this subject up again and again? Accept that it was false and move on.

It´s Reba who brought the link, not me.

http://www.alldeaf.com/629557-post66.html

Please read my post carefully. I didn´t mention Israelis employees in my first post but Reba! It´s her who took my post as quote and then added the link saying that it´s hoax because she thought it´s Israelis, I referred to which I didn´t. Reba brought this link to fresh my memory about Israelis. Yes it´s U.S Media who brought this subject in first place then later found out that it´s false.

I explained Reba that I know it´s a false information about Israelis. We found out that it´s just employees like us with no race mention, who left few days before 9/11. We have no idea why they use "Israelis" as an excuse to spread out to the public. (see Reba´s link).

 

[SxyPorkie]

Cloggy.... I could not question my sister... she had went through alots of pains and sufferings.... she did not want to talk about it anymore sl i let her go... still keep loving her and comforted her.. she passed away last year... my brother in law might know more about it.. i did tried to question him... he clammed up and refused to discuss about it... so be it...

I believed that Joyce had signed on certain papers not to discuss about tradgey... she worked at Pentagon.... so i respected her wish not to discuss about that.... she went through HELL.... now she is at PEACE,... no more sufferings and nightmares...

 

[Cloggy]

Cloggy.... I could not question my sister... she had went through alots of pains and sufferings.... she did not want to talk about it anymore sl i let her go... still keep loving her and comforted her.. she passed away last year... my brother in law might know more about it.. i did tried to question him... he clammed up and refused to discuss about it... so be it...

I believed that Joyce had signed on certain papers not to discuss about tradgey... she worked at Pentagon.... so i respected her wish not to discuss about that.... she went through HELL.... now she is at PEACE,... no more sufferings and nightmares...

Pitty people have to live with those kind of secrets. Hope your brother in law is OK.

 

[Cloggy]

Hmmm I'm just wondering if people are getting a tad carried away with getting excited about all the unanswered questions. The thing is in life there are many unanswered questions surrounding certain historical events which cannot be explained by previous observations or experience but this doesn't necessarily follow that it indicates a cover up, although I am sure that they must happen to a smaller degree.......

There's a difference between
* questions that cannot be answered,
* questions that are not being answered and
* questions of which the answer is a lie.

The official version is using a lot of the last two.

It's as if by pronouncing that the people that died are HERO'S, there's no right to ask further questions.

Isn't is sad and a lack of respect that after 5 years these families have not gotten the answers to simple questions. (Obviously, the simple answers will lead to more questions.... )
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If we ASSUME, that makes an ASS out of U and ME !!!

 

[IslandGal]

There was a video of AA 77 crashing into the Pentagon and there are some pictures of the wreckage.

911 Case Study: Pentagon Flight 77

 

[IslandGal]

It´s Reba who brought the link, not me.

http://www.alldeaf.com/629557-post66.html

Please read my post carefully. I didn´t mention Israelis employees in my first post but Reba! It´s her who took my post as quote and then added the link saying that it´s hoax because she thought it´s Israelis, I referred to which I didn´t. Reba brought this link to fresh my memory about Israelis. Yes it´s U.S Media who brought this subject in first place then later found out that it´s false.

I explained Reba that I know it´s a false information about Israelis. We found out that it´s just employees like us with no race mention, who left few days before 9/11. We have no idea why they use "Israelis" as an excuse to spread out to the public. (see Reba´s link).

Yes, she provided it to you to let you know that it was false after you questioned about why 5,000 people were on vacation from working at WTC before the attacks.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Then I must have missed it.

Briefly, what is the reason that Bush would destroy WTC7? How did he think that action would benefit him?

Repeat: political purposal.

No, they didn't deny them; they debunked them (proved them wrong).

To me, government denied their questions/suggestion, not debunked. There´re still unanswer to many questions. It´s not just link but many links in websites say different against government.

I don't know but that doesn't have anything to do with WTC7.

See, you don´t know. Now I tell you the oil is the reason, why government send their soliders to Iraq, not 9/11. Government use 9/11 as an excuse to send their soliders to Iraq which he KNEW Saddam didn´t do anything with 9/11.

Bin Laden doesn't have a country now. He travels and hide in various countries.

like Saddam, he hide... They found him after years.... why can´t they do the same to Bin Laden no matter where he is? No matter how hard is. If they claimed that it´s really Bin Laden who did 9/11 then they would do their work very hard to search him, don´t they?

He has bragged abut his terrorist attacts on recent video tapes.

Yes except 9/11.

If they make threats, you should be alowed to protect yourselves.

You said first about call German sluts and whores.... I answered: Why should we make hassle against Muslim when they made nonsense words toward us.. . then you change the subject about threats?

It's not an excuse, and they bragged about it themselves, on tape.

Sure, they bragged whatever they like but they denied their responsible for 9/11. You cannot prove it´s him. They talked too much but nothing.... just alot talked.

Well, then, that means Muslims are criminals because they want to destroy you.

You said Muslim, I said people who commit crimes for hurt innoncent people and country. I would say something differently if there´re PROOF... I can´t accuss anything without proof.

If the German women aren't Muslim, and they wear modern clothing, then yes.

Wrong! A lot of muslims who live here in Germany wear modern clothes. They are lucky to have understand parents...

You use this as an excuse because I created a thread about Muslim brother who killed his sister because she is being label as a "whore" and have a German boyfriend. Their family live in old tradition and have strong belief.
http://www.alldeaf.com/current-events/24966-when-freedom-gets-death-sentence.html

We are friends with Muslims - they accept our beliefs as the same as we accept their beliefs... Some Germans married Muslims... Some muslim who beleive in old tradition is total different as normal Muslims. Muslims from old tradition beleive strong differently and don´t like muslims to marry Germans... call bad names etc... We doesn´t take their word as seriously because we know what they are.

Because you don't want to die?

Don´t you know what respect is? You choose to risk your life to disrespect and judgement everyone. I choose to respect everyone who lead their life different as us.

If you don't plan for your future, you might not have a future.

I postive plan for my future, not worry/paraniod too much about negative future.

GIGO[/QUOTE

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Could you please tell me what´s that abrevation word?

 

[Cloggy]

There was a video of AA 77 crashing into the Pentagon and there are some pictures of the wreckage.

911 Case Study: Pentagon Flight 77

Ah yes, little pieces, unscorched, from a plane that burned completely. WOW!
I'm thinking in the size of 16" diameter titanium engines. (2 of them). And 60+ ft wings (2x) and a 20ft tall tailpiece.
Have a look here to see what I mean... (Please hava a look at the pictures and click on the links before you make up your mind)

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Yes, she provided it to you to let you know that it was false after you questioned about why 5,000 people were on vacation from working at WTC before the attacks.

Yes but I still didn´t say about Israelis but just employees. (I know I should put "employee with no race mention" in my first post but I forget about Israelis until Reba fresh my memory with link).

 

[IslandGal]

Ah yes, little pieces, unscorched, from a plane that burned completely. WOW!
I'm thinking in the size of 16" diameter titanium engines. (2 of them). And 60+ ft wings (2x) and a 20ft tall tailpiece.
Have a look here to see what I mean... (Please hava a look at the pictures and click on the links before you make up your mind)

So??? Not every plane crashes are the same. Each one is different.

You are still not accepting that it was AA 77 that crashed into the Pentagon unless you are too stubborn to accept it. IT WAS AA 77 WITH 64 INNOCENT LIVES THAT CRASHED INTO THE PENTAGON!!!!!

One more thing, I recall there was a member here in AD who works very near the Pentagon and she told us her story about what happened. She was there and she saw the pieces of the airline.

Yet, you choose to go with the conspiracy theories.

 

[Cloggy]

So??? Not every plane crashes are the same. Each one is different.

You are still not accepting that it was AA 77 that crashed into the Pentagon unless you are too stubborn to accept it. IT WAS AA 77 WITH 64 INNOCENT LIVES THAT CRASHED INTO THE PENTAGON!!!!!

One more thing, I recall there was a member here in AD who works very near the Pentagon and she told us her story about what happened. She was there and she saw the pieces of the airline.

Yet, you choose to go with the conspiracy theories.

Apart from the governemt telling you.. How do you know it was AA-77 ???

The member has a sister, who worked there, who got burned.... and wrote a piece of paper that she would not talk about what happened.
(And I suspect that when she got burned, she was inside, therefore it was unlikely that she saw a plane.)
But - again - that's not the point...

There are no holes in the wall where engines went in... there were no engines on the grass... So.... No 757 !
(A smaller plane could have gone in...)

 

[IslandGal]

Apart from the governemt telling you.. How do you know it was AA-77 ???

It was not only the government telling that to us but also the American Airlines who lost their plane, after all it is shown on the video and in the pictures (see AA logo on the damaged plane?) Also there were several eyewitnesses who saw a 757 going into the Pentagon. What more do you want to believe that it was not a 757?

The member has a sister, who worked there, who got burned.... and wrote a piece of paper that she would not talk about what happened.
(And I suspect that when she got burned, she was inside, therefore it was unlikely that she saw a plane.)
But - again - that's not the point...

That member said she believed that her sister was made to write on a piece of paper. That doesn't mean that it is a fact.

There are no holes in the wall where engines went in... there were no engines on the grass... So.... No 757 !
(A smaller plane could have gone in...)

A smaller plane with 64 people and some hi-jackers, oh sure :roll:

 

[SxyPorkie]

It was not only the government telling that to us but also the American Airlines who lost their plane, after all it is shown on the video and in the pictures (see AA logo on the damaged plane?) Also there were several eyewitnesses who saw a 757 going into the Pentagon. What more do you want to believe that it was not a 757?


That member said she believed that her sister was made to write on a piece of paper. That doesn't mean that it is a fact.



A smaller plane with 64 people and some hi-jackers, oh sure :roll:

All I know.. my sister said she saw plane.... i dont know whole story.. i suspected she signed the confident paper.. i dont know.. she refused to discuss more about it..... she went lots of HELL... lots of pains.. lots of nightmares...

 

[Cloggy]

It was not only the government telling that to us but also the American Airlines who lost their plane, after all it is shown on the video and in the pictures (see AA logo on the damaged plane?) Also there were several eyewitnesses who saw a 757 going into the Pentagon. What more do you want to believe that it was not a 757?

That member said she believed that her sister was made to write on a piece of paper. That doesn't mean that it is a fact.

A smaller plane with 64 people and some hi-jackers, oh sure :roll:

We're going in circles.. but fine...
* There is NO plane in the video. There are 5 frames with an explosion.
* There is nowhere a 757engine visible (there should be 2) (and the hole is too small to allow engines to get inside)
* There is video confiscated from the hotel and gas-station. Why not show that one?
* There are numerous other camera's securing the pentagon. Why not show that one?
* No bodies have been shown..
All "solid" information you have is from the government

So, a Boeing 757 is identified by a little piece of metal, even though the rest of the plane is nowhere to be found..

I'm sure ALL people had to sign a paper, and I read a report that videofootage was confiscated from a reporter. But that's beside the point.
The point is....
THE BOEING IS JUST NOT THERE!!

 

[IslandGal]

No plane in that video? Look again. Sure, it is all blurry because it was going at 400 mph.

You are the one who is going around in circles with your paranoid beliefs with conspiracy theories.

Bye for now.

 

[IslandGal]

All I know.. my sister said she saw plane.... i dont know whole story.. i suspected she signed the confident paper.. i dont know.. she refused to discuss more about it..... she went lots of HELL... lots of pains.. lots of nightmares...

That is very understandable that she didn't want to talk about it because it was too painful for her to talk about it. I believe you when you say your sister said she saw a plane but sadly there are some people who refuse to beleive that it was a plane.

 

[Cloggy]

No plane in that video? Look again. Sure, it is all blurry because it was going at 400 mph.

You are the one who is going around in circles with your paranoid beliefs with conspiracy theories.

Bye for now.

Calculations shows that if the plane would be the blur, and on the next frame the plane is hitting the pentagon, then it was going 700+ MPH. Not possible. Regarding the speed of a 757, the time between pictures and the distance there are either frames missing OR it was a really fast flying object...
Had it been there - it should look like this:

Still... where are the engines??? Wings ??

Just read this and have a look here.

 

[SxyPorkie]

Calculations shows that if the plane would be the blur, and on the next frame the plane is hitting the pentagon, then it was going 700+ MPH. Not possible. Regarding the speed of a 757, the time between pictures and the distance there are either frames missing OR it was a really fast flying object...
Had it been there - it should look like this:

Still... where are the engines??? Wings ??

Just read this and have a look here.

NO USE TO ARGUE WITH YOU... Cloggy since you are not from USA... I believed my sister when she told me she saw plane... i dont know what kind of plane... i could not question her anymore.. she clammed up.... at least she is now at peace... no more sufferings and nightmares...

 

[Cheri]

To be honest, everyone needs to calm down in here, no reason to get all uptight, there are some questions that were not being answered directly, When some of you think there was really a plane (757) that crashed into Pentagon, My question is were you there when the plane (757) crashed into Pentagon? I'm certain the answer is no, Why argue there was a plane (757) did crashed into Pentagon?

Now, Cloggy was wondering where were the wings, and the engines of the plane? You guys haven't came up with an answer, Why? Because you don't know.

SxyPorkie, You stated that your sister saw the plane, She did not tell you what kind of plane it was? No, so how do you really know it was plane 757?

Pictures/cameras are the real hard evidence if American people haven't seen pictures/camera of the crash area, then what should we believe? words from the officals reported? Or pictures/camera views? You decide.

 

[IslandGal]

Cheri, can you answer how can 64 people and some hi-jackers fit in a smaller plane or a missile if you don't think it was a 757? There were several eyewitnesses who saw the 757 going into the Pentagon even though some people are asking where were the wings and the engines. Maybe they got burned or blown into hundred pieces? There were pictures of the damaged AA plane on the ground and inside the Pentagon. What more do you guys want to believe that it was not a 757?