8.9 quake in Japan triggers massive tsunamis

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lanapoo said:
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Serious?! :shock:
 
Lanapoo..

"To reduce the pressure, you would have to release some steam into the atmosphere from the system. In that steam, there will be small but measurable amounts of radioactive nitrogen - nitrogen 16 (produced when neutrons hit water). This remains radioactive for only about 5 seconds, after which it decays to natural oxygen.
 
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There are unfortunately few specialty reporters these days covering nuclear energy and technology closely. The New York Times' veteran energy and environment reporter Matthew L. Wald is one of the few with such expertise, and it showed in the paper's initial coverage of the story. While the Japanese nuclear plant explosion topped the Times' website homepage, online stories today by Michael Wines from Tokyo and Wald from Washington D.C. provided a far more measured assessment of the changing situation than the largely breathless, frantic coverage and commentary elsewhere.
 
posts from hell said:
Lanapoo..

"To reduce the pressure, you would have to release some steam into the atmosphere from the system. In that steam, there will be small but measurable amounts of radioactive nitrogen - nitrogen 16 (produced when neutrons hit water). This remains radioactive for only about 5 seconds, after which it decays to natural oxygen.
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Keep in mind there is no nitrogen in water, but I am sure you know that. The probelm with nitrogen 16 hitting a waterbody is that it causes eutrophication, the term for excess nutrients in water which cause an increase in phosphates which stimulates excessive plant growth such as algal blooms. It is still too early to tell what damage has been done, but let's not make this incident sound like a walk in the park.
 
Beowulf said:
Keep in mind there is no nitrogen in water, but I am sure you know that. The probelm with nitrogen 16 hitting a waterbody is that it causes eutrophication, the term for excess nutrients in water which cause an increase in phosphates which stimulates excessive plant growth such as algal blooms. It is still too early to tell what damage has been done, but let's not make this incident sound like a walk in the park.
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we have reporters that have no business reporting about this thing.

The explosion was most likely a hydrogen explosion, which we all know once it explodes, it is gone just like that.

The point with the n-16 thing is to show that there are different radioactive elements in play here.

Even bricks on our houses have radioactive elements in them. Do we scream "radioactivity is being exposed to us" when we walk next to one? No.

So, why is the media all over it like that when they have no business doin so?

I thought the 3 mile island was lesson enough.

Its been more than 24 hours, and the fact that there is no melt down yet - it just says the danger has been reduced very very much.
 
posts from hell said:
we have reporters that have no business reporting about this thing.

The explosion was most likely a hydrogen explosion, which we all know once it explodes, it is gone just like that.

The point with the n-16 thing is to show that there are different radioactive elements in play here.

Even bricks on our houses have radioactive elements in them. Do we scream "radioactivity is being exposed to us" when we walk next to one? No.

So, why is the media all over it like that when they have no business doin so?

I thought the 3 mile island was lesson enough.

Its been more than 24 hours, and the fact that there is no melt down yet - it just says the danger has been reduced very very much.
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I sure hope so. It may sound warped, but I am glad it happened in Japan. They do not cut corners when it comes to technology and safety, and they can only learn from this and make it safer.
 
News reports are usually based upon the information that is distributed by the agencies involved in an incident. That is, news departments collect the data from releases and interviews given by sources such as government agencies and their representatives. They add "color" and human interest to their reports by interviewing witnesses.
 
Reba said:
News reports are usually based upon the information that is distributed by the agencies involved in an incident. That is, news departments collect the data from releases and interviews given by sources such as government agencies and their representatives. They add "color" and human interest to their reports by interviewing witnesses.
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So, in a way...

Government report: Nitrogen 16 is being vented to control pressure in the containment vessel.

Witness: I had to be evacuated because I lived about 10km away from the plant.

News report: Radioactivity is being vented. 300,000 evacuated.

Both the same thing. But the reporter without knowledge doesn't know how not-so-serious N-16 is, and doesn't take time to explain what it is.
 
posts from hell said:
So, in a way...

Government report: Nitrogen 16 is being vented to control pressure in the containment vessel.

Witness: I had to be evacuated because I lived about 10km away from the plant.

News report: Radioactivity is being vented. 300,000 evacuated.

Both the same thing. But the reporter without knowledge doesn't know how not-so-serious N-16 is, and doesn't take time to explain what it is.
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Whomever provided the reporter with the information should have included those details.

When I worked in public affairs, media relations, it was SOP to include background information and explanatory details with all incident releases.

That isn't to say that those receiving the information make use of it. :D
 
Beowulf said:
I sure hope so. It may sound warped, but I am glad it happened in Japan. They do not cut corners when it comes to technology and safety, and they can only learn from this and make it safer.
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Well stated. Imagine if this happened in China...:Ohno:
 
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Its been more than 24 hours, and the fact that there is no melt down yet - it just says the danger has been reduced very very much.
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Those 5.8 aftershocks are keeping things interesting though...
 
I feel like people what their to be a big nuclear fallout so we can all revel in the drama.
 
Look at the news! It's so sensationalist. pfh already pointed out that even credible news sources were getting a little bit drama-happy.

Big news is big news, yes. But I'm still waiting for the headline that says "nuclear fallout unlikely". but maybe that doesn't get people as jazzed.

Thousands just died in a round of earthquakes. Does anyone seem to notice that? No...it's like people are *hoping* for something else to happen. I'm not saying people here are hoping, but no, right now my concern isn't about an unlikely nuclear fallout, it's more about people who are currently stranded, hungry, injured, sick, etc.
 
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