250 Million Christians Will Be Persecuted in 2007

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Great.

Let every christian bands together and calling for Jesus to come. It has been overdue for Jesus' second coming.
Haha, I understand how u feel, but God's timing is perfect how things going on this world. Even the world becoming so intense. But sometimes, when things getting out of hand lot far worse we are having today and no opportunity to share the gospel and many who rejecting the Lord Jesus Christ, time will comes. That's Satan's goal to prevent people from knowing Christ and attacking christians to become more compromise the world's views and etc will lead His coming.
 
Agnostic is means that person who nothing to believe on everything but Muslim and other religions that who believe in other person and different belief.

You re right!
 
You re right!


My friends who are Agnostic too.. But Does believe in ghost or spirts anyway
One of person told me a story
Don't forget about "Caveman" were here first then become us of people now.
Longest longest time ago...
There Leader and hard working people fed up with other people who don't work hard, adultery, parties etc..
They got an idea and told them about bible > God and Evil.. They got scare then become believer in bible book and begin work slave!
 
Please use your common sense. You know what I'm talking about. You know my opinion in several threads. Now I repeat my opinion/question.

If Person A accepts Jesus as Savior, that pleases God.

Sure

I don't fully understand what you mean about "doesn't worship the Bible". Christians don't worship the Bible, so I can't answer your question. Can you rephrase that, please?

If Person A doesn't worship Satan, that pleases God, of course.

You know my posts in other threads that I accept to read the bible stories as history, not worship the bible which mean is I don't obey/do what the bible says. Worship bible is you obey/do what the bible says.

If Person A accepts Jesus that means Person A accepts what the Bible says about Jesus. How could that person reject the Bible? It's the Bible that tells Person A about Jesus and salvation. That doesn't make sense.

You know my view on the bibles in other threads. Again, I accept the bible stories as history, not do/obey the bible. I reject to obey/do what the bible says.

If Person B rejects the Bible, then Person B can't worship God and Jesus because Person B doesn't even know God and Jesus. How can a person worship God and Jesus if he/she doesn't even know about Them? How can a person accept Jesus as Savior if he/she doesn't know about Jesus?

I accept the bible story as history because God & Jesus didn't force us to obey and do what they says but want us know where we come from. I reject to do/obey (worship) the bible because I know it's human author who wrote the bible to tell us what to do/obey, not God.

God and Jesus are sad when a person rejects Bible truth.

God and Jesus know the difference between worship the bible and bible stories as history. They gave people free to choose what they like... I choose bible story over worship the bible.

Satan is happy when a person rejects Bible truth.

Satan is happy when a person worship the bible truth because he knows it's human author who wrotes, not God.

Your examples aren't parallels (apples-to-apples), so it's hard to compare them.

I repeat my example here. I'm waiting for your answer on my previous question.

It's not hard for you to compare them... ?
 
Lieblin' ~

Do you worship God ?
 
PARTS of the Bible is history. PARTS of the Bible is where God called us to do. PARTS of the Bible also where God spoke thru the writers as like a letter to us. If rejecting the Bible, church, then that would be rejecting Moses, temple, Ezra. Rejecting them is similar as rejecting from what God called us to do. True, we can worship God anywhere. But God called us to gather together in church. Does that mean church is perfect people? No. Not going to church bec feeling insecure? Maybe. Not going to church bec they think they are alright? More likely. Not just church goers, but people not going to church also thinking themselves self righteous, very likely. Have no clue, the purpose of the Bible. By saying I do what God says, not the Bible is pure contradictions. What does the Bible teaches us we should do and don't do? What does GOD says we should do and not do? The fact? No difference. I understand that the Bible has some part the reason is written based on the cultural. But there are many doesn't change what we suppose to do and not to do. That's why many have wrong concept about the Bible and thinking they knows, but the way I see past threads missing a lot of points about the Bible and the purpose of it. Bible means many books and also, Bible is part of different writer since Moses. Bible also, not forget, is written from the scroll of hebrews/greek.
 
Please use your common sense. You know what I'm talking about. You know my opinion in several threads. Now I repeat my opinion/question.
If I supposedly know your opinion, then what exactly are you asking?



I repeat my example here. I'm waiting for your answer on my previous question.

It's not hard for you to compare them... ?
Yes, it is hard to compare apples to oranges. But I'll try.
 
You know my posts in other threads that I accept to read the bible stories as history, not worship the bible which mean is I don't obey/do what the bible says. Worship bible is you obey/do what the bible says.
Christians read, study, and obey the Bible. We don't worship the Bible.

So what is your question?

You know my view on the bibles in other threads. Again, I accept the bible stories as history, not do/obey the bible. I reject to obey/do what the bible says.
So what is your question?

I accept the bible story as history because God & Jesus didn't force us to obey and do what they says but want us know where we come from. I reject to do/obey (worship) the bible because I know it's human author who wrote the bible to tell us what to do/obey, not God.
So what is your question?

God and Jesus know the difference between worship the bible and bible stories as history. They gave people free to choose what they like... I choose bible story over worship the bible.
Yes, God gave you free will to either obey or disobey. With that free will, you also have to accept the consequences of your choices. God tells us in His Bible what will happen if we don't repent and accept Jesus as Savior.

God also tells us in His Bible how Christians can please Him and become spiritually mature in their beliefs and actions. There are consequences to all those choices, and God warns us about them in His Bible. God's words in His Bible are also comfort and encourage Christians.

So, what is your question?

Satan is happy when a person worship the bible truth because he knows it's human author who wrotes, not God.
Huh?
You totally lost me on that one. :confused:


I repeat my example here. I'm waiting for your answer on my previous question.
OK. Where's the example, and what's the question?
 
Liebling, for example. Suppose you have a love letters, do you worship the letters or you worship a person who wrote it? As for an example, or put it this way a person who worte a love letter to you, you love the letter he wrote, or you love him that wrote?. Also, I have another thread about God and the Bible explained the difference and the meaning of it.
 
Liebling, for example. Suppose you have a love letters, do you worship the letters or you worship a person who wrote it? As for an example, or put it this way a person who worte a love letter to you, you love the letter he wrote, or you love him that wrote?. Also, I have another thread about God and the Bible explained the difference and the meaning of it.

You can´t compare love letter with bible because they are not the same thing.

Example: I don´t obey what love letter says but give me good/wonderful feeling which is different as obey what the bible says. Example... a person read the bible and follow what the bible says and judge the people as sin because they abort their babies... or sex before marriage etc... because the bible says... etc.

Yes I have read your thread... I will answer later.
 
You can´t compare love letter with bible because they are not the same thing.

Example: I don´t obey what love letter says but give me good/wonderful feeling which is different as obey what the bible says. Example... a person read the bible and follow what the bible says and judge the people as sin because they abort their babies... or sex before marriage etc... because the bible says... etc.

Yes I have read your thread... I will answer later.

To you may not think so, but it sure does. And also what make you think God didn't say or God approve by murdering the babies (abortions), sex outside of marriage, lies, steal, gossip and etc ?
 
Liebling, for example. Suppose you have a love letters, do you worship the letters or you worship a person who wrote it? As for an example, or put it this way a person who worte a love letter to you, you love the letter he wrote, or you love him that wrote?. Also, I have another thread about God and the Bible explained the difference and the meaning of it.
Thank you for the clear example. :P
 
:lol: I´m not surprise because I know you deny my question... I know my question is not hard.
I'm not denying your question. I'm asking, what is your question? Maybe I missed it in all the posts. Can you please post your specific question again?
 
You can´t compare love letter with bible because they are not the same thing.

Example: I don´t obey what love letter says but give me good/wonderful feeling which is different as obey what the bible says. Example... a person read the bible and follow what the bible says and judge the people as sin because they abort their babies... or sex before marriage etc... because the bible says... etc.

Yes I have read your thread... I will answer later.

I agree with u. I get so tired of people judging me cuz I dont obey the bible. I dont judge them for obeying the bible but why do they judge others? It is like they consider themselves better cuz they obey the bible. Puts a strain in a lot of relationships..like my friend and her deaf brother's relationship. He is so obsessed with Christianity and the bible and it destroyed their relationship cuz she got tired of him preaching to her. It is sad cuz they are both only the deaf ones in their family. She said she doesnt care if he obeys the bible or whorship it but to force it on her and call her sinful cuz she doesnt have the same beliefs is what ruined their brother/sister relationship.
 
To you may not think so, but it sure does. And also what make you think God didn't say or God approve by murdering the babies (abortions), sex outside of marriage, lies, steal, gossip and etc ?

Who really cares if people have sex outside of their marriages? It is their own business and they are not hurting u or others by doing that. I really do not understand this!

Abortions..that is another issue and it shouldnt be a religous issue cuz in each situation it is different.

Lying and stealing are wrong.


Gossip..everyone has their opinion on what makes gossip right or wrong.
 
I agree with u. I get so tired of people judging me cuz I dont obey the bible. I dont judge them for obeying the bible but why do they judge others? It is like they consider themselves better cuz they obey the bible. Puts a strain in a lot of relationships..like my friend and her deaf brother's relationship. He is so obsessed with Christianity and the bible and it destroyed their relationship cuz she got tired of him preaching to her. It is sad cuz they are both only the deaf ones in their family. She said she doesnt care if he obeys the bible or whorship it but to force it on her and call her sinful cuz she doesnt have the same beliefs is what ruined their brother/sister relationship.

Pray for them. Bible KJV said here Romans 2:1-7

1 Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things.

2 But we are sure that the judgment of God is according to truth against them which commit such things.

3 And thinkest thou this, O man, that judgest them which do such things, and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God?

4 Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance?

5 But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;

6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds:

7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:

Last night I read your CDT. I am joined too! :)
 
I agree with u. I get so tired of people judging me cuz I dont obey the bible. I dont judge them for obeying the bible but why do they judge others? It is like they consider themselves better cuz they obey the bible. Puts a strain in a lot of relationships..like my friend and her deaf brother's relationship. He is so obsessed with Christianity and the bible and it destroyed their relationship cuz she got tired of him preaching to her. It is sad cuz they are both only the deaf ones in their family. She said she doesnt care if he obeys the bible or whorship it but to force it on her and call her sinful cuz she doesnt have the same beliefs is what ruined their brother/sister relationship.

That's not true. And, secondly about the obsessed thing - there's never a word " obssession " because, of love.
 
That's not true. And, secondly about the obsessed thing - there's never a word " obssession " because, of love.

His life is run by the bible. He seems to cant think for himself anymore. If we ask him for his opinion, he would say "God this or that..." It is like we dont know him anymore. He cant make any decisions without "consulting" the bible. I think it is excessive and it has ruined his relationship with his deaf sister and his two other brothers and from what I hear, his children cant wait to grow up and move out.
 
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