Would like to end a relationship....

CrazyPaul said:
So do hearing people. What Grummer said is a stereotype. If Grummer is hearing , then it's audism. PERIOD. Deaf people tend to do this or that. That's full of shit! So fucking many hearing people left their lovers without saying goodbye.
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Are you saying there is not a difference between hearing culture and deaf culture in terms of mannerism?
 
CrazyPaul said:
So do hearing people. What Grummer said is a stereotype. If Grummer is hearing , then it's audism. PERIOD. Deaf people tend to do this or that. That's full of shit! So fucking many hearing people left their lovers without saying goodbye.
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you need to take a chill pill man.

there IS a difference between hearing and deaf cultures.
Even Deaf people can practise Audism, actually, if it is is about 'Deafer than thou" it would be Deafism. Now, for the record, I actually am an academic, I studied in depth about audism, not just as social level but also at institutional levels, cultural levels can be explored too, in fact I WANT people to KNOW what IS audism, and I want hearing people to stop ignoring deaf people, and start giving us Deafies a fair go, for they practise audist discrimination to us far too much!!

We , as d/Deaf people havent got far yet, we havent got Hearing (and d/Deaf) people be aware and recognise what audism is, or the existence of it.

We were talking in general about how deaf people tend to be more blunt, and you're right there are hearing people who do the same, or worse, but its not descriptive of the hearing society, what we are really getting at is, ... how language and culture are used together to put together a way how we would 'normally' express our request to break off, or pick up new partners, or confront, or 'asking questions'.

Im not hearing, but I can understand why you say 'if i was hearing' indeed I would be probably react the same as you, as I feel hearing people DO judge us, and assume.

One of the reasons I dropped it in here, about 'tend to' (which IS true) is to other readers, would take it in, and think about it, and make us think about hearing culture and Deaf culture. Look not everything is Black and white, there Are greys, but when we put it in context, and like talking about how we 'break up" it IS, rather dramatic in the deaf world, and it didnt need to be, but it does. then again there is personality of people....personality is not culture, but again personality belongs to another kind of study, psychology, whereas culture belongs to anthropology, and socialisation, i.e. institutions belongs to sociology, and so on...

just bloody relax! its only a freindly chat here, you dont have to agree with everything but if you read , stop think about...and wait maybe a months see something different , think again, then you might go ; ah ha!! Now you realise...that's understanding...
im not fooling you , and noones fooling you either, audism is real and its real bad - we know..but we're not overgeneralising either. MOST d/Deafs agrees that we are more up-front, and
last thing where /when did we say 'left lovers without saying good bye?' thats weird none of it was even in this thread - you brought that up - and its not relevent...BUT ok , yes some RUDE hearing or deaf will left without saying good bye, thats not culture, thats just rude people, individuals- personality side of things...not general culture...

ok so
Peace out
and happy christmas

but you are right about one thing, hearing people Do think deaf people are crude, when really hearing people can be crude too, and that is just wrong (not you), the judging bits is wrong, (audism), so relax i do know what you are saying...
cheers
 
Grummer, that's understandable, however it's your opinion and I have mine so let's move on. OK? May the force be with you!
 
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I am in the wrong section this about break ups, yikes! How did audism come in??
 
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