I pasted Kokonut´s post from other thread over here to aviod :topic: to respect other thread creator.
kokonut´s post #311
Again, you have to use actual field data on predation rate of wolf kills to animals that used radio collars to track these kills by wolves through aerial surveys to collect data on the rate of kills. Moose is the animal mostly killed for wolf consumption compared to caribou and sheep during the winters.
They have estimated that on average there were 29 moose killed per wolf pack per winter. Average wolf pack size is 6 wolves (of varying age and hierarcy). So, that means on average 5 moose were killed in order to sustain one wolf each winter in order to survive. A 5:1 ratio average (5 moose kill for each wolf). You need to understand something, Liebling, more food is required in the winter time to survive. Alaska's winter is long. There is no way one wolf can survive eating only one moose a month during the winter!! It is not their nature after eating a moose to stand around. They go for fresh kills while the meat and organs are still warm. Meat freezes up in a hurry in an Alaskan winter! Secondly, do you realize how much territory they cover? Do you understand about the calories consumption required to keep a wolf alive and healthy? The freezing weather factor on meat? The snow depths and how it affect their territory hunting grounds? Apparently not. Yet, approximately 62% of the moose killed were younger than 2 years old with the majority of the young kills going after the calves. Wolves have been documented numerous times showing them to be extremely efficient predators. And if a wolf population quickly goes up that means the moose population will quickly go down, and when wolf population goes up that means more problems for everybody in terms of passing on animal diseases, attacking people, their dogs, depleting their food supply (e.g. moose for their meat) that native Alaskans depend on and so on.
Wolves are pack animals. They work together to go after a single kill. But that 7 wolves taking down one moose means that 7 of those wolves get to share that moose meat and it goes away quickly. Moose is easier prey than a caribou. They go after moose more often than caribou.
Yeah, you better check your math. I can see it's not your strong suit.
Next time, use survey data reports for predation rate. Not some made up statistics that do not make any sense.
Next time, use real hard data that you can use and back up.
*shake my head laughing sigh* You posted exaggeratedly :roll: I can see that you did not know much about wolf history. My post #292 including links at thread "Sarah Palin Quit' remains. There´re plenty links of wolf history etc here.
And
Did you know that 70% of Alaskans opposed wolf control efforts?
In January, more than 120 scientists send a letter to Governor Murkowski stating that the Alaska Board of Game's seven predator control programs are significantly flawed because they do not use scientifically-based standards and guidelines to design, implement, and monitor them. These findings were based on a report written by Vic Van Ballenberghe, "Biological Standards and Guidelines for Predator Control in Alaska: Application of the National Research Council's Recommendations". The report evaluated how well the Board of Game incorporated the National Research Council's recommended biological standards and science-based management techniques into Alaska's recent predator control programs.