Wikipedia BAD!!

Nika said:
In ten years? We do that now.
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rarely are children expected to use the library like i did when i was their age. many of them don't even know how to use the card catelogue nor are they familiar with the dewey decimal system.
 
Hear Again said:
if wiki can generate stronger sources to back up the information they provide, perhaps more people would look at them in a positive light when it comes to conducting cold, hard research.
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if it can do that, then yes wiki will finally be accepted by universities. Encyclopedia Britannica's approach is very wise.
 
Hear Again said:
rarely are children expected to use the library like i did when i was their age. many of them don't even know how to use the card catelogue nor are they familiar with the dewey decimal system.
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Yup. I have no idea what either of those are. But I do know how to research for sources in a library. I just don't do it now given most libraries only have regular print.
 
Hear Again said:
thank you for pointing that out, deafskeptic. as lucia and i have said, it seems highly unusual (impossible, in fact) that jillio would condone the use of wiki for backing up one's statement in order to substantiate a claim. it just isn't done in the field of mental health since there are far more credible resources out there like the psychiatric times.
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biggest reason why not many people here can find credible source is because the academic database is a paid subscription (a very very expensive one). Only ADers in colleges do have access to academic database.
 
Nika said:
I'm not sure but most of them you have to pay for a subscription. I can access a lot of online journals through my university website for free, though. However I do have to log in as a student at the university in order to access them. I rely completely on the e-Library (online library) since the university library doesn't have any sources in large print, braille, or audio.

And yes I agree that Wiki should be more readily questioned than sources like the Psychiatric Times. I wasn't disagreeing with you on that front--I was just trying to provide a more balanced view of Wikipedia. <smile>
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it's not free. it's included in your tuition. it's usually $200+ per semester. no such thing as free bread....
 
Nika said:
Yup. I have no idea what either of those are. But I do know how to research for sources in a library. I just don't do it now given most libraries only have regular print.
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off-topic...

don't they also have cctv's as a requirement under the ada? the public library in the suburb where i live does. they also have adapted computers with screen readers.
 
Jiro said:
it's not free. it's included in your tuition. it's usually $200+ per semester. no such thing as free bread....
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Well what I mean is that as part of the tuition, we get access to online subscriptions.
 
Hear Again said:
off-topic...

don't they also have cctv's as a requirement under the ada? the public library in the suburb where i live does. they also have adapted computers with screen readers.
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Our library doesn't have CCTV's. They do have computers with screen readers, but that doesn't help with looking at a regular print book. Plus the online e-Library for my university is the same as the regular library, except the books are scanned in page by page and then made into PDF's.
 
Jiro said:
biggest reason why not many people here can find credible source is because the academic database is a paid subscription (a very very expensive one). Only ADers in colleges do have access to academic database.
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this isn't true in all cases. if you look hard enough, you can find plenty of good research publications online.
 
Aghori said:
To save taxpayers' money :|

You see why the books never change but information online will always change. You see why research on the books can give you some confident and pure knowledge.
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many researchers do use Internet.... but just not the way people use. There are actually different type of Internet but it's only reserved for academic/military use. biggest problem about published books are that they're quickly outdated with new studies. Information online is very updated and extremely easy to sift thru.

Aghori said:
Maybe in ten years, schools might ask students to research on the books instead Internet. Who knows :hmm:
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schools do REQUIRE students to do research on books. That's why it's not uncommon for professors to require students to have at least xxx numbers of sources from books for research papers.
 
Nika said:
Our library doesn't have CCTV's. They do have computers with screen readers, but that doesn't help with looking at a regular print book. Plus the online e-Library for my university is the same as the regular library, except the books are scanned in page by page and then made into PDF's.
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your library doesn't have a scanner like an nfb reader or the kurzweil? my public library has both.
 
Hear Again said:
rarely are children expected to use the library like i did when i was their age. many of them don't even know how to use the card catelogue nor are they familiar with the dewey decimal system.
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lol!!!!! oh lordy... i remember that time with card catalogue and dewey decimal system.... what a pain in the ass and extremely time-consuming.
 
Hear Again said:
this isn't true in all cases. if you look hard enough, you can find plenty of good research publications online.
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yep. but just saying.... general population do not have equal & easy access to plethora of quality database as college students/faculty.
 
Nika said:
Well what I mean is that as part of the tuition, we get access to online subscriptions.
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yes - in your tuition... you will see the cost of tuition + computer fee + and bunch of other small fees.
 
Jiro said:
many researchers do use Internet.... but just not the way people use. There are actually different type of Internet but it's only reserved for academic/military use. biggest problem about published books are that they're quickly outdated with new studies. Information online is very updated and extremely easy to sift thru.


schools do REQUIRE students to do research on books. That's why it's not uncommon for professors to require students to have at least xxx numbers of sources from books for research papers.
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Definitely true. My professors usually require at least three book sources. But with the e-Library, I am looking at books. They have just been scanned into the computer--but the sources are from books. It's called GEORGE. We also have Aladin, which not only has library materials from my university, but also from other universities in the D.C. area.

Exactly right on the type of Internet search. We use online databases that specialize in certain areas. For example some of the categories include: biomedical and health sciences, business and economics, law government and politics, theology philosophy and religious studies, history and classical studies, language and linguistics, social sciences.
 
Jiro said:
lol!!!!! oh lordy... i remember that time with card catalogue and dewey decimal system.... what a pain in the ass and extremely time-consuming.
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Ha, ha. I remember that system well. I don't miss it. :D
 
my university uses a database system which enables students to borrow books and other publications from any other college or university in the greater metro area.
 
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