Why - Why the Medical Society constantly pressure on the Parents?

[jillio]

Thanks for the clarification. Wow, she had her reimplantation during her teenager due to device failure. Poor her... Went through another surgery. It goose bumps to my arms...

YW.

 

[jillio]

Yeah, you are right I wonder that sometimes, it seems like people are on here all day and all night long.

Without knowing the individual schedules of all the posters here, that is a very judgemental assessment. Not all educators work a strict 7-3 or 8-4 schedule. I personally have days that I do not go into my office until noon or later, but am there until 9 or 10 at night. Likewise, I have days when I am in my office at 8 and leave at 5. My schedule is flexible, and changes depending upon the needs of my students. I also have days that my work is done from home. On the week ends, I have a second job. The hours for that run 8pm-8am. Add to that my class schedule, and the hours that I am off site in the local high schools, and you might find me posting at very odd hours, indeed. That does not make me any less an educator, nor does it in any way imply that I am neglecting my work or school responsibilities. Likewise, I have a laptop with me, or a PDA, everywhere I go. I can also sit in a doctor's office waiting for an appointment, connect to the Internet through Wi-Fi, and read and respond to posts during that down time. Perhaps it would be more respectful to ask for an explanation rather than simply making assumtptions without all the knowlege necessary.

But, when it comes right down to it, the hours of anyone's post has absolutley nothing to do with the topic.

 

[LadySekhmet]

Without knowing the individual schedules of all the posters here, that is a very judgemental assessment.
But, when it comes right down to it, the hours of anyone's post has absolutley nothing to do with the topic.

I agree. I post a lot because I'm a "Housegirlfriend" (not Housewife...not yet anyways!). My posts at odd hours in the morning is because I suffer from insomnia.

So yeah, who cares as long as there's posts for me to read!

 

[jillio]

I agree. I post a lot because I'm a "Housegirlfriend" (not Housewife...not yet anyways!). My posts at odd hours in the morning is because I suffer from insomnia.

So yeah, who cares as long as there's posts for me to read!

There you go!

 

[jillio]

{Mod Edit: Previous quote has been removed, thus, removing non-existence quote here as well--~RR}

So, then, you would agree that an individual with a CI is not necessarily more independent than the deaf individual who is not implanted, as has been suggested by some, but simply dependent on a different accommodation?

 

[neecy]

We're dependent on our CI's, there's no doubting that, but the CI itself can make one more independent. At least it has for me.

 

[jillio]

We're dependent on our CI's, there's no doubting that, but the CI itself can make one more independent. At least it has for me.

That's what I don't understand. How is it that one can be dependent upon one form of technology, but be more independent than someone who is dependent upon another form of technology?

 

[Secretblend]

That's what I don't understand. How is it that one can be dependent upon one form of technology, but be more independent than someone who is dependent upon another form of technology?

Wow, that sure does make a person think.

 

[neecy]

simply because not every piece of technology is the same. Just like no two deaf people, or CI-implanted people are the same.

You can be dependent on your car getting you to/from work. You can also be dependent on your bicycle doing the same thing.....the bicycle might be slower but it still gets you to work. However the person with the car might seem more independent because they can go farther and faster in a shorter time. They're still both dependent on the technology they use... I don't know if this is the best analogy (I'm not trying to say a CI is a car or a HA is a bicycle) but its just an example.

 

[Secretblend]

simply because not every piece of technology is the same. Just like no two deaf people, or CI-implanted people are the same.

You can be dependent on your car getting you to/from work. You can also be dependent on your bicycle doing the same thing.....the bicycle might be slower but it still gets you to work. However the person with the car might seem more independent because they can go farther and faster in a shorter time. They're still both dependent on the technology they use... I don't know if this is the best analogy (I'm not trying to say a CI is a car or a HA is a bicycle) but its just an example.

Excellent point! I'm curious of what other's have to say regarding this..

 

[Cheri]

Stop and think for a moment...she'd had the CI for more than 10 years already. It would be a case where SHE wanted to be re-implanted, after having gotten so used to being able to hear with the CI, not a case of parents desperate for a hearing daughter. For her it would almost (I am assuming) be like "going deaf" for the first time.

I rather to hear the answer from Rick48 after all that's his daughter not yours.

 

[neecy]

Hear the answer to what? What I quoted from you wasn't a question - it was a comment, to which I made a response. If you have a question posed earlier about something, I'm sure he'll respond when he gets the chance, but I wasn't "answering" anything, simply adding a comment to a comment.

And since this is a public forum....if you only want answers from one single person (regardless what the question is, or who answers) you might want to stick to private messages. As far as I am aware of, anybody here has the freedom to make a post.

 

[Cheri]

Hear the answer to what? What I quoted from you wasn't a question - it was a comment, to which I made a response. If you have a question posed earlier about something, I'm sure he'll respond when he gets the chance, but I wasn't "answering" anything, simply adding a comment to a comment.

And since this is a public forum....if you only want answers from one single person (regardless what the question is, or who answers) you might want to stick to private messages. As far as I am aware of, anybody here has the freedom to make a post.

 

[neecy]

LOL sorry if it came across wrong -- I just wanted to show that i wasn't "answering" any question you wrote, or intending to answer "for" Rick.

No worries. Have a great day.

 

[VamPyroX]

My question is..why is having oral skills more important than the quality of education?

I just dont understand how it is ok to put deaf children in an educational environment where they dont have equal access to education as hearing children to. Is that the sake for having good speech skills?

I wouldn't say that having good oral skills is more important than the quality of education. As long as the deaf child is getting the proper English education, he/she will succeed.

They can learn to read and write. They can sign in SEE. Any of that can be used to improve proper English.

Having oral skills is just a "plus" with your education.

I'm hard-of-hearing. I have good oral skills. However, I still have need for interpreters. I can talk on the phone, but not with all phone calls.

Some hearing people see me as a deaf person, but are shocked that I have good oral skills. Some deaf people see me as a hearing person, but are shocked that I'm actually deaf. It's just an assumption game with everyone.

If I had a deaf kid, I would focus more on his English skills than his oral skills.

 

[jillio]

simply because not every piece of technology is the same. Just like no two deaf people, or CI-implanted people are the same.

You can be dependent on your car getting you to/from work. You can also be dependent on your bicycle doing the same thing.....the bicycle might be slower but it still gets you to work. However the person with the car might seem more independent because they can go farther and faster in a shorter time. They're still both dependent on the technology they use... I don't know if this is the best analogy (I'm not trying to say a CI is a car or a HA is a bicycle) but its just an example.

But if it fulfills the individuals specific needs for independence, then it is not superior.

 

[jillio]

Wow, that sure does make a person think.

Thank you. Independence is independence, and dependence is dependence no matter how it is accomplished.

 

[jillio]

I wouldn't say that having good oral skills is more important than the quality of education. As long as the deaf child is getting the proper English education, he/she will succeed.

They can learn to read and write. They can sign in SEE. Any of that can be used to improve proper English.

Having oral skills is just a "plus" with your education.

I'm hard-of-hearing. I have good oral skills. However, I still have need for interpreters. I can talk on the phone, but not with all phone calls.

Some hearing people see me as a deaf person, but are shocked that I have good oral skills. Some deaf people see me as a hearing person, but are shocked that I'm actually deaf. It's just an assumption game with everyone.

If I had a deaf kid, I would focus more on his English skills than his oral skills.

 

[shel90]

I wouldn't say that having good oral skills is more important than the quality of education. As long as the deaf child is getting the proper English education, he/she will succeed.

They can learn to read and write. They can sign in SEE. Any of that can be used to improve proper English.

Having oral skills is just a "plus" with your education.

I'm hard-of-hearing. I have good oral skills. However, I still have need for interpreters. I can talk on the phone, but not with all phone calls.

Some hearing people see me as a deaf person, but are shocked that I have good oral skills. Some deaf people see me as a hearing person, but are shocked that I'm actually deaf. It's just an assumption game with everyone.

If I had a deaf kid, I would focus more on his English skills than his oral skills.[/QUOTE]

That is what I am saying. Why is speech the primary concern when it comes to education? However, my biggest concern is with the issue of the deaf child's ability to catch everything being said in the classroom. I just feel that by putting them in a classroom full of 30 kids without visual cues is restrictive. That's my opinion.

 

[shel90]

But if it fulfills the individuals specific needs for independence, then it is not superior.

I agree.