Why - Why the Medical Society constantly pressure on the Parents?

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jackiesolorzano said:
I am sorry if I insulted. The truth is that my children do have more options in communicating. It is not meant to insult it is just a fact.
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Deaf people still can communicate with hearing people..just in different ways. I never think of in terms of "who has more or who is more limited." I dont believe in that.
 
shel90 said:
It goes the same for me...can handle 3 people ..I go out with my husband and his friends so as long as it is in ideal conditions, I do fine without sign language.

The reason I prefer to be in signing environments is cuz ASL is just so much easier for me.
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So you can talk to 2 people with your back turn to them.
 
jackiesolorzano said:
So you can talk to 2 people with your back turn to them.
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No but so what? It is not a MAJOR challenge for people to face each other. Why does everything have to be done the hearing people's way?

I learned to speak and hear/lipread well enough so I can do that for THEM..all I am asking is for hearing people to meet me halfway. If they dont want to learn sign language..that's fine but respect my visual needs at least.

If they dont want to, then I wont waste my time with them. So far, it hasnt happened too often lately cuz I wont tolerate it like I used to when I was passive.
 
jillio said:
I'm going to have to disagree with you on that one, jackie. My son has every opportunity available to him that your children have. The fact that you even suggest that he is more limited because he is not implanted is te\he very attitude that people find so distasteful.

And, if your children are having difficulty understanding in some situations due to background noise, then I would suggest that their ability to understand spoken telephone conversations would also vary dependent upon conditions.
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No I would never suggest that your son needed an implant. You wouldn't know how my children are able to talk on the phone. It really doesn't matter what you suggest because I know what is real. I know how my children are able to communicate on the phone.
 
jackiesolorzano said:
No I would never suggest that your son needed an implant. You wouldn't know how my children are able to talk on the phone. It really doesn't matter what you suggest because I know what is real. I know how my children are able to communicate on the phone.
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That's great...many deaf people can communicate on the phone too..using pagers, aim, VRS, relay and TTYs. Are u suggesting that those forms of communication is beneath being able to talk on the phone?
 
jillio said:
Very little experience with childen is hardly a criterion for deciding if an implant center is "good" or "bad". Perhaps they choose to work with the adult population. Not all doctors and audis choose to work with a pediatric population.

Could you please clarify what you mean by "implanting too late?"
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What do you mean that if a center that has experience with children would hardly be a critierion. So you mean a doctor and audiologist that has little experience with children would be good. Have you ever sat through a mapping session. You need doctors and audiologists that have tons of experience with children so that they know what to do.
 
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shel90 said:
It goes the same for me...can handle 3 people ..I go out with my husband and his friends so as long as it is in ideal conditions, I do fine without sign language.

The reason I prefer to be in signing environments is cuz ASL is just so much easier for me.
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A lot of deaf individuals do well in ideal conditions. But, as you well know, ideal conditions are not the norm.
 
jackiesolorzano said:
What do you mean that if a center that has experience with children would hardly be a critierion. So you mean a doctor and audiologist that has little experience with children would be good. Have you ever sat through a mapping session. You need doctors and audiologists that have tons of experience with children so that they know what to do.
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He doesn't have to have experience with children in order to be good. By your standards, a doctor who practices geriatrics would not be good because he/she does not have experience with children. They need experience with children if they have a pediatric patient base. If they have an adult patient base, they do not need experience with children
 
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jillio said:
It is not a fact, jackie.
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Thank u...

It is like saying hearing people are superior to deaf people. That's the underlying message..it is old news.
 
jackiesolorzano said:
No I would never suggest that your son needed an implant. You wouldn't know how my children are able to talk on the phone. It really doesn't matter what you suggest because I know what is real. I know how my children are able to communicate on the phone.
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Jackie, you have already stated that for their receptive skills in oral communication, conditions need to be ideal. Static on a phone line would certainly be less than ideal. Background noise in a room or a car where the phone is being used would be less than ideal.

Many deaf can use a telephone utilizing tcoils in an HA. So how is the CI equal to increased opportunity, when the same oppportunity can be had and taken advantage of without a CI?
 
shel90 said:
No but so what? It is not a MAJOR challenge for people to face each other. Why does everything have to be done the hearing people's way?

I learned to speak and hear/lipread well enough so I can do that for THEM..all I am asking is for hearing people to meet me halfway. If they dont want to learn sign language..that's fine but respect my visual needs at least.

If they dont want to, then I wont waste my time with them. So far, it hasnt happened too often lately cuz I wont tolerate it like I used to when I was passive.
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And having a CI would not guarantee that you could, either.
 
jackiesolorzano said:
I am not fixing something because it was never there to fix. We added sound access it doesn't take away the fact that my children are still deaf.
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Adding sound access is fixing the fact that sound access was not there.
 
shel90 said:
Thank u...

It is like saying hearing people are superior to deaf people. That's the underlying message..it is old news.
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Old, prejudiced, and streotypical news.
 
Why don't we just accept the fact that every child/adult are different. Good grief.
 
shel90 said:
That's great...many deaf people can communicate on the phone too..using pagers, aim, VRS, relay and TTYs. Are u suggesting that those forms of communication is beneath being able to talk on the phone?
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That is the whole point. Communication. And with the visual technology available today, communication for the deaf is full of options.
 
jillio said:
And having a CI would not guarantee that you could, either.
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The day I would even consider a CI would be the day that I can no longer hear ANYTHING with my HAs.

Not just to communicate with hearing people only. I have other skills for that. :)
 
jillio said:
I don't believe that we are denying that.
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Well I dont believe in comparing, I do not compare my child to my sister's child and I don't think anyone has a right to compare deaf children with hearing aids vs deaf children with CI because it can hurt a child's feelings and it's not fair to the child either and that's my opinion.
 
Angel said:
Well I dont believe in comparing, I do not compare my child to my sister's child and I don't think anyone has a right to compare deaf children with hearing aids vs deaf children with CI because it can hurt a child's feelings and it's not fair to the child either. No child is perfect than the other.
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I agree..that is why I spoke up about it. I just dont believe in that either.
 
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