Why Spicy Food?

ambrosia said:
Cayenne pepper is supposed to help your digestion, boost your metabolism and helps you burn fat!!! They even have it in pill form so you don't have to eat it.

But it can be hard on your kidneys
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God that's scary....lose weight and possibly a kidney too....:eek3:


Laura
 
Lau2046 said:
God that's scary....lose weight and possibly a kidney too....:eek3:


Laura
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I think that probably only happens is you take too much of it, nothing is good for you if you overdo it.
 
Jiro said:
interesting topic from other forum -



let's have a spicy discussion! :naughty:
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Jiro said:
I say... multiple health reasons. that's why poor people are healthier than rich people. clears up your sinus. increases your body temp to kill germs/virus. and spices up your sex life.

if you are having gastrointestinal issue with spicy food, it's because you are filling your body with junk food (especially acidic food) for so long that your body is incapable of processing even natural food. Asian and African people have been eating spicy food for thousands of years. no problem. and they don't even have state of arts hospitals.

to me - tabasco sauce is like a ketchup. spicy? comical. not even close.
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False, just saying. It doesn't matter how thick their pockets are. It is based on what they like to eat. And some people can't handle the spices because it is based on their organs, age and so forth not because of many toxins in the system. You are just being ridiculous. Again, just sayin'.


I like mine spicy when it comes to burritos with guacamole but I have to check with my stomach to see if it doesn't mind me eating them or I will have angry stomach and be paying many visits to the toilet... some days my stomach is flexible, then I will be jumping up and down.. ready to eat some healthy food.. spicy salsa is healthy as long as it doesnt have too many toxins.
 
MCB said:
But spicy food is more popular in hot climates-- because it does bring out a sweat.
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Not in my area.. they love spicy foods during the winter. Helps warm them up.. Not me, just whenever I am for it.
 
Jiro said:
look around. which country has the highest rate of obesity? and cancer? yep - America... and if you look at the top 10 ranking... they're all wealthy nations. wealthy nations have a high rate of obesity and cancer rates whereas... it's opposite in poor country.

poor people in wealthy nations are, of course, forced to buy junk/fast food but in poor people in poor country are relatively healthier. they eat bare minimum food with sufficient nutrition to get by and to stay healthy, they eat spicy food because they cannot afford to get sick. and they grow their own crops or share with their neighbors.
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That is your theory. Everyone has their own. As a trainer, I see it differently... in any kind of income community, middle class and poverty gets what they can afford but they forget the rule, get real healthy food which is half as much as the amount of junk food at approximately same total of costs. They get stronger and healthier that way but when they start thinking about the money, trying to survive through without hunger, they buy more affordable and lot more junk food... without realizing getting half much food that is a lot healthier and keeps them away from falling into medical debt... so spicy food is just whatever and whenever they want it.. I seen all income classes reject or buy some of the same stuff... I do not believe the stats from the insurances, and other sources like that because they don't count and/or cover everyone...
 
Jiro said:
you have to stay away from spicy food that are too acidic.
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Not work for me.

Spicy chicken gave me a nasty heartburn so no thanks.

I have to avoid any spicy foods.
 
Jason said:
That is your theory. Everyone has their own.
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nope. not my theory.

this "theory" is from CDC, American Digestive Disease Society, scientists, universities, and thousands years of history (that's why Christopher Columbus was looking for a route to get spices from India - specifically peppercorns).

this clearly explains why there is a very low cancer rate among people who eat spicy food regularly than those who doesn't. and it turns out that a country with low cancer rate is a poor country with poor people eating spicy food regularly.

and you know what's ironic? wealthy people in poor country has a higher cancer rate than poor people. why? regular consumption of red meat, gluttony, and sedentary lifestyle.

and here's another data compiled by World Cancer Research Fund - http://www.wcrf-uk.org/research/cancer_statistics/world_cancer_statistics_overall.php. You will see that Top 20 countries do not eat spicy food. I see that Korea is close to Top 20 and it's because since for past 10 years or so, Korea has became very Westernized with fast foods - McDonald, KFC, Pizza Hut, etc... plus it supported the argument above - wealthy people tend to have a higher cancer rate than poor people.

The data also supported the argument that if you look at the very bottom table, you will see the last 4 countries are very poor (except Singapore). Their food is incredibly spicy and their cancer rate is the lowest in the table.

Jason said:
As a trainer, I see it differently... in any kind of income community, middle class and poverty gets what they can afford but they forget the rule, get real healthy food which is half as much as the amount of junk food at approximately same total of costs. They get stronger and healthier that way but when they start thinking about the money, trying to survive through without hunger, they buy more affordable and lot more junk food... without realizing getting half much food that is a lot healthier and keeps them away from falling into medical debt... so spicy food is just whatever and whenever they want it.. I seen all income classes reject or buy some of the same stuff... I do not believe the stats from the insurances, and other sources like that because they don't count and/or cover everyone...
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you just repeated what I've said in Post ##17.

Like I said.. poor people in wealthy country cannot afford good food unless they have a farm. and poor people in poor country can afford to eat healthy because they reap what they sow from their backyard or locally since they cannot afford a vehicle to travel far or to carry lot of grocery bags.

since you're a trainer... I'm very sure that the most common issues you deal with from your clients is... what should I eat? I'm pretty sure that it is very challenging for your clients to stay on track for a long time because it's getting harder and tiring to figure out several different recipes for same ingredients. chicken this, chicken that. salad this, salad that.

In my country, it's non-issue since most of food we eat are easy, healthy, nutritious, and never-ending delicious. works well for us for thousands of years! :lol: The Americans discovered kimchi and bimbimbop since summer Olympics in Korea. works very well for weight loss and body building.

I'm sure you disagree but quite frankly - I don't really care because I stand by something that works fine for thousands of years with proven health benefits plus cancer statistics to back it up. I truly feel sorry for those on body building or weight loss program with Westerner approach to food. It looks a chore. no pleasure. so sad.
 
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Jason said:
False, just saying. It doesn't matter how thick their pockets are. It is based on what they like to eat. And some people can't handle the spices because it is based on their organs, age and so forth not because of many toxins in the system. You are just being ridiculous. Again, just sayin'.


I like mine spicy when it comes to burritos with guacamole but I have to check with my stomach to see if it doesn't mind me eating them or I will have angry stomach and be paying many visits to the toilet... some days my stomach is flexible, then I will be jumping up and down.. ready to eat some healthy food.. spicy salsa is healthy as long as it doesnt have too many toxins.
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it does very much matter how thick your pocket is in wealthy country. the thicker your pocket is, the more food including unhealthy & unnatural food you'll gorge yourself with. and as for poor people, they simply cannot afford good food. sounds like a paradox, doesn't it? I'll make it simpler.

According to tables above - the high cancer rate seems to affect mostly Caucasian people especially Europeans and Americans. it's the result of generations after generations of eating unhealthy and unnaturally meaning...

Wealthy People in Wealthy Country:
1. eating off-season food.
2. eating a lot of meat - hamburgers, hotdogs, steaks, etc.
3. eating a lot of junk food.
4. eating a lot of artificial food/candy.
5. drinking a lot of sodas.
6. over-eating.

Poor People in Wealthy Country:
1. eating a lot of fast food.
2. eating a lot of cheap junk food.
3. eating a lot of meat since it's cheaper than fruits and vegetables.
4. drinking a lot of sodas.

worst of all? America hasn't banned HCFS, GMOs, and Trans Fat yet. shocking.
 
Jiro said:
this clearly explains why there is a very low cancer rate among people who eat spicy food regularly than those who doesn't. and it turns out that a country with low cancer rate is a poor country with poor people eating spicy food regularly.

The data also supported the argument that if you look at the very bottom table, you will see the last 4 countries are very poor (except Singapore). Their food is incredibly spicy and their cancer rate is the lowest in the table.
Like I said.. poor people in wealthy country cannot afford good food unless they have a farm. and poor people in poor country can afford to eat healthy because they reap what they sow from their backyard or locally since they cannot afford a vehicle to travel far or to carry lot of grocery bags.
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The reasons why Asian countries are having higher cancer rates are more complex than spices. The fact that McDonalds and other western food chains are in operation doesn't help matters, including that they have the highest rate of smokers in the world outside of the Middle East. Stomach Cancer is very high in Asia and what is often at the root of it is their habit of eating dried fruit, etc. which seems to be the link. There are many poor throughout Italy and Sicily that do not eat spices and they have a very low cancer rate because they eat onions, garlic and polenta (corn meal) in abundance.

However, I hardly think the poor can't afford good food unless they have a farm. In this country it's a lack of education that keeps in the Wendys instead of making a cheaper meal that's more healthy at home. It's not that the poor in this country can't make healthy meals, it's just that they're igorant. They'd rather get something at McDonalds than eat something better for them. Of course we're not talking people in India, Uganda, or places like that who take poverty to an entirely different level, but it's safe to say that spices alone do not promote good health. If we're talking this country alone or even the UK, spices have nothing to do it. It's a love of fast food and a complete lack of exerise, and that's one thing all the organizations you've mentioned would agree on.

Laura
 
Lau2046 said:
The reasons why Asian countries are having higher cancer rates are more complex than spices.
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Look at the cancer table. South Korea's ranking is closer toward to its Western counterparts than any other Asian countries. Simple - South Korea has the closest relationship with America.

It's not really that complex. I know it from first-hand experience. Seoul and Korean lifestyle including food have been deeply influenced by Westerners for the past couple decades.

And of course... there is another paradox. The wealthier the country is, the sicker people are. :hmm:

Lau2046 said:
The fact that McDonalds and other western food chains are in operation doesn't help matters, including that they have the highest rate of smokers in the world outside of the Middle East. Stomach Cancer is very high in Asia and what is often at the root of it is their habit of eating dried fruit, etc. which seems to be the link.
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and yet.... the cancer rate in Asian is still lower than Caucasian countries.

Lau2046 said:
There are many poor throughout Italy and Sicily that do not eat spices and they have a very low cancer rate because they eat onions, garlic and polenta (corn meal) in abundance.
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Italians still rank high in the cancer list and it's pretty easy to see why. Their staple diet contains high cholesterol level. Lot of Italians have heart issues. Between Asian people and Italians... we both know who can easily live past 80 years old.

Lau2046 said:
However, I hardly think the poor can't afford good food unless they have a farm. In this country it's a lack of education that keeps in the Wendys instead of making a cheaper meal that's more healthy at home. It's not that the poor in this country can't make healthy meals, it's just that they're igorant. They'd rather get something at McDonalds than eat something better for them.
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Yes and No.... about the poor people in wealthy nations...

1. the poor people cannot afford the food in America that they're used to from their home country. The price of their staple diet is typically twice higher in here than in their home country. and the quality of their staple diet is poor in here - artificially made with impurities or cheaply made since higher quality brand is expensive.

My mom is very fond of persimmon fruit. She was surprised to see locals in Chinatown selling 4 persimmon fruits for $6 because at supermarket, the price is doubled.

2. even with good food selling for cheap if you know where to go... most poor people are pulling double shifts. there's no time to cook healthy food because they come home exhausted.

Lau2046 said:
Of course we're not talking people in India, Uganda, or places like that who take poverty to an entirely different level, but it's safe to say that spices alone do not promote good health.
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promote? no.... spicy food contributes to good health (as supported by many data and experts) since poor people cannot afford medical care and they certainly cannot afford to be sick in order to work.

Lau2046 said:
If we're talking this country alone or even the UK, spices have nothing to do it. It's a love of fast food and a complete lack of exerise, and that's one thing all the organizations you've mentioned would agree on.

Laura
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Go to them and ask what's the secret to long life and good health. They all will say same thing - spicy food and family :lol:

lack of exercise isn't really an issue for poor people because.... after all - how can they live a sedentary lifestyle? they don't have a luxury to do that.

A person's health is pretty much dependent on what he/she eats as well as type of lifestyle. Dalai Lama said same thing to a Westerner who visited him to ask him him why do poor people seem healthier and happier than wealthy people.
 
Jiro said:
nope. not my theory.

this "theory" is from CDC, American Digestive Disease Society, scientists, universities, and thousands years of history (that's why Christopher Columbus was looking for a route to get spices from India - specifically peppercorns).

this clearly explains why there is a very low cancer rate among people who eat spicy food regularly than those who doesn't. and it turns out that a country with low cancer rate is a poor country with poor people eating spicy food regularly.

and you know what's ironic? wealthy people in poor country has a higher cancer rate than poor people. why? regular consumption of red meat, gluttony, and sedentary lifestyle.

and here's another data compiled by World Cancer Research Fund - World cancer statistics | Overall | WCRF UK. You will see that Top 20 countries do not eat spicy food. I see that Korea is close to Top 20 and it's because since for past 10 years or so, Korea has became very Westernized with fast foods - McDonald, KFC, Pizza Hut, etc... plus it supported the argument above - wealthy people tend to have a higher cancer rate than poor people.

The data also supported the argument that if you look at the very bottom table, you will see the last 4 countries are very poor (except Singapore). Their food is incredibly spicy and their cancer rate is the lowest in the table.


you just repeated what I've said in Post ##17.

Like I said.. poor people in wealthy country cannot afford good food unless they have a farm. and poor people in poor country can afford to eat healthy because they reap what they sow from their backyard or locally since they cannot afford a vehicle to travel far or to carry lot of grocery bags.

since you're a trainer... I'm very sure that the most common issues you deal with from your clients is... what should I eat? I'm pretty sure that it is very challenging for your clients to stay on track for a long time because it's getting harder and tiring to figure out several different recipes for same ingredients. chicken this, chicken that. salad this, salad that.

In my country, it's non-issue since most of food we eat are easy, healthy, nutritious, and never-ending delicious. works well for us for thousands of years! :lol: The Americans discovered kimchi and bimbimbop since summer Olympics in Korea. works very well for weight loss and body building.

I'm sure you disagree but quite frankly - I don't really care because I stand by something that works fine for thousands of years with proven health benefits plus cancer statistics to back it up. I truly feel sorry for those on body building or weight loss program with Westerner approach to food. It looks a chore. no pleasure. so sad.
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Honest: Not every stats are covered based on every family - rags or riches... it does not matter what they say because they are not 100% accurate. I depends on what I saw, knew, heard (deaf eyes) from co-trainers, therapists, nutritionist, dietiticans, and my clients including my friends and families. I have been arguing and discussing things with several medical centers, researchers, and more because they have missed several important matters that they thought was covered or not important to include in their cases. They often overlook these troubles... some of them are learning and some just assumed from the records held by doctors, insurances, and bah bah. Not every one of them are accurate or telling the truth. Similar to FDA who passed Diet Coke as healthy drink which is actually deadly in the long run or Potatoes are healthy or not because eating too much of what it has leads to breast cancer.. truth? they are arguing about that. Bah Bah... more below.


Jiro said:
it does very much matter how thick your pocket is in wealthy country. the thicker your pocket is, the more food including unhealthy & unnatural food you'll gorge yourself with. and as for poor people, they simply cannot afford good food. sounds like a paradox, doesn't it? I'll make it simpler.

According to tables above - the high cancer rate seems to affect mostly Caucasian people especially Europeans and Americans. it's the result of generations after generations of eating unhealthy and unnaturally meaning...

Wealthy People in Wealthy Country:
1. eating off-season food.
2. eating a lot of meat - hamburgers, hotdogs, steaks, etc.
3. eating a lot of junk food.
4. eating a lot of artificial food/candy.
5. drinking a lot of sodas.
6. over-eating.

Poor People in Wealthy Country:
1. eating a lot of fast food.
2. eating a lot of cheap junk food.
3. eating a lot of meat since it's cheaper than fruits and vegetables.
4. drinking a lot of sodas.

worst of all? America hasn't banned HCFS, GMOs, and Trans Fat yet. shocking.
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Again, as I mentioned earlier above. It doesn't mean they are accurate. I lived and socialized with all kinds of people from poverty to wealth. I see... same thing but what I noticed.. the more money people have the more options they have when it comes to groceries.. I see them eating more fruits and vegetables, oraganic stuff and more. Low income people just get what they could with what they have.. lots of junk food and refined food are very affordable.. they have lots of toxins and preservation that does harm to health when they are not able to afford some healthy foods such as fruits and vegetables just enough to balance out the toxins. I am only talking about our country of the United States. Not international... worldwide stats.

And I agree.. they should have banned HCFs, and GMOs but lots of foods relies on these.. if they are banned.. it will leave about 1/4 on the shelves comparing to what is there right now. For Trans. Fat, 0 g is increasing ... I believe Saturated Fats should be reduced... ALOT....

As a trainer, I do not tell my clients, friends, or family what to eat but I make alot of suggestions and recommendations for them leading them to healthier eating habits.. and if they say they drink lots of foundation drinks, I will only tell them what it has and what it does to the health, weigh, etc then they decide for themselves because it is their bodies, and decision since it effects their health, goals, tastebuds and money.

And you are right, I did repeat your #17 post in my own words, I was just not actual focused when I was reading and typing at that moment but expressing from my perspective. Thank you.
 
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