Why Deaf films failed?[VID]

I know this is a dumb question, but who is "her"?

Your'e not paying attention, the "her" is Deafscuba's friend that you said you heard about.
 
Your'e not paying attention, the "her" is Deafscuba's friend that you said you heard about.

How old is Deafscuba, I think I have seen his photo... if she went
to school with him... then how comes she is still in school, isn't she too old.

I was just going along with Deafscuba, cause I thought he would mention her name or something.
 
I don't think it is fair to single out Deaf film festival failures. I think it applies to many Deaf-run organizations. Before you jump on my hands, know this: I speak as a workshop coordinator for 2 different Deaf organizations and have seen where both failed.

It isn't us Deaf people' fault.... we just don't have any money to support these organization. What is the point of having a Deaf Expo, when most Relay services are there.... they are only giving away free service to Deaf people anyway. Sprint, AT&T, IP-Relay, FREE. And plus we can get in Deaf Expo for free. I even got free Sidekick after rebates.
Would you build Victoria's Secret store in a poor neighborhood?
No... you gotta go where the MONEY is, you build Victoria's Secret store at the rich folks' area.


Deaf people in general do not know how to commit and follow through! Why do you think Voc. Rehab. counselors have been not so eager to help Deaf clients?? Because so many of them don't even follow through on commitment and expect the world served to them on a silver platter without working hard for it.

I know.... I tried to get a Voc. Rehab counselor to help me in Mississippi,
and they turned me away... so I complain, and then they gave me
an unexperienced person who is just an interpreter to help me.


Another reason, too many people run organizations for the name-recognition and popularity contests. I admire those who actually put in tears, sweat, blood, arm and leg into their organization. But those who just sit back and do nothing, filing their fingernails and claiming they did the work, they're a hindrance and a cancer in the organization!


Once you get committed members who are genuinely interested in the organizations' welfare and well-being, then it is a guarantee the organization would be successful. Successful organizations equal successful, planned events!

Well most of the organizations are USELESS... especially VRS...
who wanna look at an interpreter, just to order a pizza? and if we deaf people want to chat on webcam, we can just get a webcam and use sign language. Why we need VRS? That is dumb.
And plus if you want to call your doctor and your doctor said you got "herpes" and interpreter on VRS will look at you funny.




So, many festivals or workshops fail because their organizations weren't on the ball into making it work!

Same thing in the Hearing world... Most small businesses are unsuccessful.
This is a dog eat dog world, that is just way life is. Memphis tried to save their fairground.... but went bankrupt and lost. Many Black people
don't want to all Black colleges.... because regular colleges are welcomeing many Black people in. Our Black college in Memphis is going bankrupt.
 
I went to the film school and it is so hard to do film...
with hearing actors... I didn't know if they didn't know their words.

I don't know if your son has a hearing problem, Nomad.

But it is hard...

production? you mean like producing someone film... of course that is easy..

But making a film as a film director is hard.

Nobody wants to pay their hard working money on Deaf Film...

We will never make million of dollars... off of deaf film.

Poor little me I am deaf, please pay $10 to watch my deaf film...

Nope,,, that won't happen.

We need to face reality and get other jobs that is simple and not
complicated...

No my son has normal hearing, but his disability can make communication awkward at times as he tends to distort what he hears. He also is a monotonic talker and uses some inappropriate words at times which can make it difficult sometimes to understand what the hell he is talking about! However, he manages for the most part.

He does some camera and sound work, animation, editing, screenwriting and organising the show to be ready for airing each week. Not on his own, but many guys (including the professionals) won't complete their tasks and it falls back on to him.

He has also won some awards in local film festivals for movies he and a friend make entirely by themselves. Not bad for a kid who failed school and has had no formal training in this area. Maybe his disability was a plus? His determination and energy is never in doubt though.

I must admit that I have at times tried to push him into everyday jobs, etc, but he is totally committed to getting into this industry. Money is yet to be made, but he is steadily building up a network and reputation which is his main focus at this time. I have since learned to back off and let him follow his dreams. It's good therapy for him and I guess he's in good company with a lot of the creative types who are borderline with sanity......I pray for his success instead now and try to acknowledge his achievements instead.

We think the show is crap, but that's our opinion and it does have a following. It took about two and a half years from the first meeting with the producer (who is also the show's focus) to get on air.

I guess anything that isn't easy but worthwhile takes guts, determination, energy and total committment. Otherwise it's like eating dinner - a necessary function, but not really an achievement.
 
I know this is a dumb question, but who is "her"?
if you want to know who is her...

then why did you say this ......
I read about her...

if you are saying that you did read about her.. then i assume that you know who i'm talking about..

by the way i'm not that old. i'm in my late 20's.

otherwise.. its best if you PM me and i can possibally give you the name or website.
 
if you want to know who is her...

then why did you say this ......


if you are saying that you did read about her.. then i assume that you know who i'm talking about..

by the way i'm not that old. i'm in my late 20's.

otherwise.. its best if you PM me and i can possibally give you the name or website.

Deafilmedia....YOU ARE BUSTED!!... It showed that you are lying... hahaha
 
Nomad

There are famous successful people who suffered schizophrenia

> Meera Popkin, Broadway Star
Meera Popkin was the star of “Cats” and “Miss Saigon” on Broadway and in London’s West End and was diagnosed with schizophrenia during this time. Her life went from center stage and limousines to waiting tables at Wendy’s, but she’s now back and doing well.

> John Nash, Mathematician/nobel prize winner
John Nash was an eccentric mathematical genius whose sudden youthful plunge into schizophrenia could have ended in obscurity or tragedy. Instead, his 30-year battle against crippling mental disease ended in triumph. He won the 1994 Nobel Prize in economics, as recounted in the blockbuster 2001 film “A Beautiful Mind.”

> Lionel Aldridge, super bowl-winning football player
Lionel Aldridge won three world championships, including two Super Bowls, with the Green Bay Packers in the 1960s. He also suffered from paranoid schizophrenia and as a result, this NFL champion, NBC sports analyst and family man spent two years homeless on the Milwaukee streets, and spent 10 years battling with hallucinations and paranoia. A defensive end for Vince Lombardi’s legendary Green Bay Packers of the 1960’s, Aldridge played in two Super Bowls. In the 1970’s, he suffered from schizophrenia and was homeless for two years. He now gives inspirational talks on his battle against paranoid schizophrenia. His story has been told in numerous newspaper articles, copies of which are available from the National Alliance of the Mentally Ill.

Abraham Lincoln: The 16th president, one of the greatest Americans, suffered from severe, incapacitating and occasionally suicidal depressions, documented in six biographical volumes by Carl Sandburg, and in numerous articles, including, “Dark Veil of Depression” by Judy Folkenburg, National Institute of Mental Health, published in The Consumer.



Ludwig Beethoven: The brilliant musician experienced manic depression, documented in Beethoven by Schauffler.

Leo Tolstoy: Author of War and Peace, one of the world’s greatest novels, Tolstoy told of his own mental illness in My Confession. It is also discussed in Dynamics of Creation by Anthony Storr and Inner World of Madness by Beet Kaplan.

Edgar Allen Poe: The famous author known for his eerie, inventive works, clearly experienced mental illness as documented in The Haunted Palace: The Life of Edgar Allen Poe by Frances Winwar.

Winston Churchill: “Had he been a stable and equable man, he could never have inspired the nation. In 1940, when all odds were against Britain, a leader of sober judgement might well have concluded that we were finished,” wrote Anthony Storr in Churchill. Storr also discussed Churchill’s manic depression in his book The Dynamics of Creation.

Vivien Leigh: The actress who starred in” Gone With The Wind” suffered from mental illness, as documented in Vivien Leigh by Anne Edwards.

Sylvia Plath: The poet and novelist suffered mental illness as documented in A Memory of Sylvia Plath by Anne Edwards.

Patty Duke: The actress told of her bipolar illness in an autobiography, Call Me Anna, which became a television movie.

Charles Dickens: One of the greatest authors in the English language suffered from depression, as documented in Key To Genius by Hersham and Lieb, and Charles Dickens, Vols. I and II by Edgar Johnson.


Jimmy Piersall
The baseball player for the Boston Red Sox who suffered from bipolar depression detailed his experience in The Truth Hurts.

Emperor Joshua Norton
Self-appointed "Norton I, Emperor of the United States and Protector of Mexico," Joshua Norton won "a permanent place in the annals of San Francisco, as the wisest and shrewdest of madmen." His life is chronicled in Emperor Norton of San Francisco by William Kramer, Emperor Norton I by William Drury, Pioneer Jews by Drachman and Guide to San Francisco, pp.40-45.


Isaac Newton
The scientist's mental illness is discussed in Creative Malady by George Pickering, in Dynamics of Creation by Anthony Storr and in Key to Genius by Hershman and Lieb.

Ernest Hemingway
The novelist's publicized suicidal depression is examined in The True Gen by Denis Brian.

Michelangelo
The mental illness of one of the world's greatest artists is discussed in Dynamics of Creation by Anthony Storr.

Winston Churchill
"Had he been a stable and equable man, he could never have inspired the nation. In 1940, when all the odds were against Britain, a leader of sober judgment might well have concluded that we were finished," wrote Anthony Storr in Churchill. Storr also discussed Churchill's bipolar depression in Dynamics of Creation.

John Keats
The renowned poet's mental illness is documented in Dynamics of Creation by Anthony Storr and The Broken Brain by Nancy Andreasen.

Edgar Allan Poe
The author's severe bouts with paranoia and alcoholism originated from his bipolar depression as documented in The Haunted Palace: The Life of Edgar Allan Poe by Frances Winwar.

Tennessee Williams
The playwright gave a personal account of his struggle with clinical depression in his own Memoirs. His experience is also documented in Five O'Clock Angel by Marie St. Just, in Kindness of Strangers by Donald Spoto, in Tennessee: Cry of the Heart by Dotson Rader and in "Remembering Tennessee Williams," New York Times, 5/30/90, p.B3.

Vincent Van Gogh
The celebrated artist's bipolar depression is discussed in Key to Genius by Hershman and Lieb, Dear Theo: Autobiography of Van Gogh by Irving Stone and an article in Your Health magazine, 3/28/89, pp.12-13.


Gaetano Donizetti
The opera singer suffered from bipolar depression, as documented in Donizetti by Herbert Weinstock.

Robert Schumann
The "inspired poet of human suffering" experienced bipolar depression, as discussed in Dynamics of Creation by Anthony Storr and Creative Malady by George Pickering.


Vaslov Nijinsky
The dancer's clinical depression is documented in his autobiography, The Diary of Vaslov Nijinsky, in Bert Kaplan's Inner World of Madness and in U.S. News & World Report, 11/21/88, p.16.


Eugene O'Neill
The famous playwright, author of Long Day's Journey Into Night and Ah, Wilderness, suffered from clinical depression, as documented in Eugene O'Neill by Olive Coolidge.

Virginia Woolf
The British novelist who wrote To The Lighthouse and Orlando experienced bipolar depression characterized by feverish periods of writing and weeks immersed in gloom. Her story is discussed in Dynamics of Creation by Anthony Storr and in U.S. News & World Report, 3/5/90, p.50.

Roseanne Barr who suffered Depression.

Jim Carrey who suffered Depression.

Richard Nixon, U.S. president
Murray Pezim, Canadian businessman
Napoleon Bonaparte, emperor
Gerard M. Hopkins, poet
Victor Hugo, author
William James, writer
Bev Aisbett - Author of "Taming The Black Dog" and other well known books
John McGrath - Chair, Mental Health Council of Australia
Neil Cole - Victorian Politician and Playwright
Oliver Cromwell (1599-1658) - soldier, statesman and Lord Protector of England (1652-1658) after he declined the crown after Charles I was beheaded in 1649 during the Civil War.

Ted Turner struggles with manic depression.

Even Rosie O'Donnel is suffering from Depression...

And they all ACHIEVE!!!!

It isn't rare.... it isn't even abnormal... It is just a mind thing....
and people shouldn't be prejudice toward people with Depression or schizophrenia.
 
if you want to know who is her...

then why did you say this ......


if you are saying that you did read about her.. then i assume that you know who i'm talking about..

by the way i'm not that old. i'm in my late 20's.

otherwise.. its best if you PM me and i can possibally give you the name or website.


The name you gave me have been in California for 4 years and she
hasn't made a successful film....
It doesn't take Steven Spielberg that long to achieve.
He made his 1st movie Jaws, and BAM, he became a millionaire.
Look at Quentin Taratino... a high school drop out, I think...
He made his 4th film, BAM, he became a millionaire.

And Michael Moore, his 1st film was like WOW...
2nd film WOW, 3rd film WOW, 4th film WOW....

We deaf people can't be lazy and said oh it is our first film,
I'm just gonna mess around... 2nd film, well it isn't better.
3rd film, well. 4th film, I got nowhere yet....
 
The name you gave me have been in California for 4 years and she
hasn't made a successful film....
It doesn't take Steven Spielberg that long to achieve.
He made his 1st movie Jaws, and BAM, he became a millionaire.
Look at Quentin Taratino... a high school drop out, I think...
He made his 4th film, BAM, he became a millionaire.

And Michael Moore, his 1st film was like WOW...
2nd film WOW, 3rd film WOW, 4th film WOW....

We deaf people can't be lazy and said oh it is our first film,
I'm just gonna mess around... 2nd film, well it isn't better.
3rd film, well. 4th film, I got nowhere yet....
so you like to put down deaf people's dreams?

you can't do that.. you should support their dreams.. and help eachother than put down their dreams..

Deaf people can still do it no matter what.
 
so you like to put down deaf people's dreams?

you can't do that.. you should support their dreams.. and help eachother than put down their dreams..

Deaf people can still do it no matter what.



Do you know where I get these negative attitude from?????

Guess who?





















































































Deaf people at Gallaudet.... they told me that deaf people won't
succeed in making film. Even your friend doesn't think I can make a
successful film. So I am repeating everything they said.
 
what do you expect? she's a drama queen....

Get a job.. SSI won't be there forever, Deafilmedia.
 
I think that people do not care about deaf roles in the movies. We are traditional to watch TV hearing shows everyday.

I studied in video making with deaf students at NTID. It wasn't an easy job. If we are in a big deaf world now, and then it would be good.

Working as a blue collar, it might be okay if you work at a news station or at a college auditorium for the performance shows.

It is not about money issue. It is all about people's power. It has to be a smart deaf person who knows how to run the business and to be in control as long as they cannot tell the deaf person what to do. That's why you need to act a boss.

If you still love to make the films, then just go head and try it to see if it works for you. Don't spend your money for three years of business until you are ready to buy something. That's the business rule. Most small companies did not follow the advisors about running in the business for three years so they ignored and failed it.

Now, my advice is for everyone who are on SSI/SSDI should be prepared to find a job before the year of 2050 because Social Security might run out of money. The SS might be only for profound handicapped people like blind, wheelchair, physical problems, health problems, etc. Deaf might not be included on the list because they can walk, able to write notes, sign language, and able to talk. They don't care about deaf low's salary or never get promoted - that probably will be a sad life.
 
yup and by 2050 - I'll be retirement age and will be working well into the grave - likely spending my golden years as a greenthumb worker or Wal-Fart greeter.
 
I think that people do not care about deaf roles in the movies. We are traditional to watch TV hearing shows everyday.

Yeah because hearing people LOVE sound... That is why in movie theatres, the sound is so LOUD!!!! If they don't hear sound, they will panic. Sound is the most important thing. Even Silent movies play music. RADIO in the 1930, people at that time didn't have tv, so RADIO and music were the most important Technology in those days... they had soap opera on the RADIO, the actors talking.... And plus we got RADIO in CARS, hearing people will get bored while driving, they hate quietness. My Nephew was 2 years old, he tried to take off closed caption, he hated them... I keep telling him to stop turning it off... now he is 11, he still don't understand why I need those annoying closed caption. He gets real upset. I had to fight with him. I spanked him so hard, he cried and went to his room and SLAM the door!!! :eek3: In the theatre, if the cell phone ring, Movie goers will get angry at someone for disturbing their sound. That is why you don't talk during the movie. So if deaf people is going to sign language in a silent film with substitled, hearing people will get impatient. You are taking away their sense...

I studied in video making with deaf students at NTID. It wasn't an easy job. If we are in a big deaf world now, and then it would be good.

TRUE.


Working as a blue collar, it might be okay if you work at a news station or at a college auditorium for the performance shows.

Yeah I was an intern at B.E.T. and producers told me I am not allow
to mess with the camera or be around cameramen at the studio. That is why I got so depressed.


It is not about money issue. It is all about people's power. It has to be a smart deaf person who knows how to run the business and to be in control as long as they cannot tell the deaf person what to do. That's why you need to act a boss.

Not only hearing people... but to all people.
If someone finds out about your weakness, they will CRUSH you.
If you're gay, CRUSH!!!
If you're black, CRUSH!!!
If you only have a high school degree, CRUSH!!!
If you became Miss America, and if you screwed up (Vanessa William), CRUSH!!!
Right now someone is trying to find a way to pull Obama down....
his opponents are trying to find his weakness so he won't be President.
This is a DOG EAT DOG world.

No, you don't have to be too smart to run a business.
I tell you a secret....
What do a politician do? Think about it for a second?
A politician has to convince everyone that they can run the country.
Look at Bill Clinton... how he became President...
He said YES to everyone. And he is so nice to everyone.
Same thing with Deaf person, they gotta convince everyone that
they can run the store. Don't argue with your customers. Always give in and make them happy, do whatever you have to to make them happy and they will come back.
Cause when I was trying to sell stuff at Deaf Expo, same deaf people keep coming back to my table.... cause I am so friendly, I am so warmhearting. I understand people, I understand these customers... I talked to them,,, and they gave me their concern...
You can't be like, "Oh I don't have time to talk to you, I'm busy." No, can't do that... you gotta smile.


If you still love to make the films, then just go head and try it to see if it works for you. Don't spend your money for three years of business until you are ready to buy something. That's the business rule. Most small companies did not follow the advisors about running in the business for three years so they ignored and failed it.

Okay, I'll try to do films. True...

Now, my advice is for everyone who are on SSI/SSDI should be prepared to find a job before the year of 2050 because Social Security might run out of money. The SS might be only for profound handicapped people like blind, wheelchair, physical problems, health problems, etc. Deaf might not be included on the list because they can walk, able to write notes, sign language, and able to talk. They don't care about deaf low's salary or never get promoted - that probably will be a sad life.

That is a lie.... SSI will be always be there... cause there are other countries that will look after us Disabled people. They might fund...
Arabic prince might give USA a billion dollar check.
 
That is a lie.... SSI will be always be there... cause there are other countries that will look after us Disabled people. They might fund...
Arabic prince might give USA a billion dollar check.

You're probably right. Uh, it seems that you are my mother. Scratching my head. I am going to ask my mother if she is actually you or not. Gulp! :eek3:
 
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