Which public or deaf school?

sara1981 said:
mostly deaf parents always chose for kids going deaf school or public school its dosent matter who chose right educations and teachers.

im been raise at Kansas School for the Deaf K-12 but IF i have my own kids somedays if i would chose school for my own kids like deaf or public have good education,good grades no bad grades neither.
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I know but, many of deaf kids is low function with math, writing, or reading.. I don't know why. Even, when they getting older, become adult, still low function. I don't want my son Damien to be like them, because I want see him have easy life, go to college. etc I don't mean to offense some of people who is low function. I do consider myself as low function too. I just don't want him to be like me or others. I trying to find a better education for him, so he can be really smart but he into social more and want friends badly. I wasn't sure which I should put him in better education or better social. I guess social more important to him, what he wanted.
 
deafdyke said:
You know what would be an awesome idea? Talk to the teachers at the program, and maybe you could do a "workshop" with the hearing parents all about ASL and Deaf culture etc.
It really doesn't make any sense that "oral" kids would be sent to the program. Most hardcore oral onliers think ASL/Sign is poison and avoid it like the plauge. Maybe the parents just need a little encouragement to learn ASL. Maybe if they did, then the kids would see the parents using ASL and then think " Oh...mom and dad use it............I can use it too!"
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Ohh ok, I will talk to teacher..true.
 
damienmommy said:
Ohh, ok thanks. I wasn't sure when deaf kids tend start to learn ASL..while parents are hearing. I guess they are delay.
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Unfortuntetly. Too many hearing parents may believe the BS about sign being harmful for speech.
 
deafskeptic said:
Unfortuntetly. Too many hearing parents may believe the BS about sign being harmful for speech.
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Exactly. If these deaf 2 year olds are having trouble learning sign, I would question exactly how much the parents are actually signing with them. If the parents are only attempting to teach a few isolated signs, like "please" and "thank you" is an isolated situation, the child has not been exposed to the degree that they even realize that the signs are for communication. Additionally, if the parents are using speech the vast majority of the time to communicate with the 2 year olds, then they 2 year olds will naturally attempt to respond in the manner in which they have been addressed. That is because they have realized that speech is for communication. That is the message the parent has given them by using it primarily to interact with their kids.
 
Exactly jillo1 They're picked up from their parents that speech is to communicate. Kids are very smart and they'll pick up all sorts of "unspoken" messages.
I know but, many of deaf kids is low function with math, writing, or reading.. I don't know why. Even, when they getting older, become adult, still low function. I don't want my son Damien to be like them, because I want see him have easy life, go to college. etc I don't mean to offense some of people who is low function. I do consider myself as low function too. I just don't want him to be like me or others. I trying to find a better education for him, so he can be really smart but he into social more and want friends badly.
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On the other hand most Deaf/ specialized (like blind) Schools have really good programs in the lower grades, like in preschool and kindergarten. To the point where even if the student body is mostly multihandicapped, the preschool and kindy programs tend to be really good.
 
and you should initially see about a split placement....like a couple of days at the Deaf school and then a couple of days at the mainstream school so that your son can find his niche.
 
damienmommy,
maybe if you do a workshop for the hearing parents of dhh kids, you could bring in Deaf folks who have oral skills. Like a lot of hearing parents think that if a dhh kid has oral skills, that's enough to suceed in life.
Maybe contact your Associaiton for the Deaf and see if they have any idears or anything like that.
 
You can have the best educational program available for a child - but the KEY is what the child does at home. The child is only at school for a small fraction of the day. The success of the child depends on the willingness of the parent to go the extra mile.

If the child is placed in a horrible educational program, as long as the parents are involved with the child's educational progress, that child can still succeed (Source: Educator and Presenter Ruby Payne).

So at this point, what you will need to decide...what language do I want to use with my child? Is it English or ASL ...or both? What communication mode will best fit my child's needs (NOT your needs)? What resources are available in my area to help me faciliate language growth? After you decide these factors, then placement decisions of education will be easier.

Socialization is very important and should not be overlooked when making these important decisions.
 
deafbajagal said:
You can have the best educational program available for a child - but the KEY is what the child does at home. The child is only at school for a small fraction of the day. The success of the child depends on the willingness of the parent to go the extra mile.

If the child is placed in a horrible educational program, as long as the parents are involved with the child's educational progress, that child can still succeed (Source: Educator and Presenter Ruby Payne).

So at this point, what you will need to decide...what language do I want to use with my child? Is it English or ASL ...or both? What communication mode will best fit my child's needs (NOT your needs)? What resources are available in my area to help me faciliate language growth? After you decide these factors, then placement decisions of education will be easier.

Socialization is very important and should not be overlooked when making these important decisions.
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:gpost: And the only thing I would add is once you have made these decisions, be consistent in their applications.
 
deafdyke said:
damienmommy,
maybe if you do a workshop for the hearing parents of dhh kids, you could bring in Deaf folks who have oral skills. Like a lot of hearing parents think that if a dhh kid has oral skills, that's enough to suceed in life.
Maybe contact your Associaiton for the Deaf and see if they have any idears or anything like that.
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no, parents do want to learn and teach kids signs..but its hard for some of parents..and some parents is kinda good at pickup signs but their kids won't signs..
 
no, parents do want to learn and teach kids signs..but its hard for some of parents..and some parents is kinda good at pickup signs but their kids won't signs..
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Oh so overall you think that most of the parents are OK with Sign?
Still I mean I think that if you organized an informational workshop for the hearing parents on ASL and connecting with the Deaf culture it might really drum up a lot of interest. Actually.....you know what would be an awesome idea? Contact your state's Assocation for the Deaf, and see if they will send out a couple of local Deafies who might want to serve as "language mentors" for the families. That might be a good resource for people.
That is just really weird that there are kids who are in the program who won't sign. It is kinda cool......at least they're getting the option to chose which language they will use. I think some of them might use ASL if they still have significent speech delays....besides its an awesome tool for the whole friend thing....you know? You know......maybe a good idea if you have the workshop, would be to have the kids attending the workshop (maybe it could be during school hours) turn off their hearing aids/CIs, while you sign. Maybe then that will make a lot of kids think....." Oh...so I can talk without my hearing aid or CI!...I have another tool to use!"
Some of the kids who are more oral may be picking up from their parents or society at large that ASL is "special needs" and they don't " need" it b/c they can hear. I remember I thought that way as a little kid.
 
deafdyke said:
Oh so overall you think that most of the parents are OK with Sign?
Still I mean I think that if you organized an informational workshop for the hearing parents on ASL and connecting with the Deaf culture it might really drum up a lot of interest. Actually.....you know what would be an awesome idea? Contact your state's Assocation for the Deaf, and see if they will send out a couple of local Deafies who might want to serve as "language mentors" for the families. That might be a good resource for people.
That is just really weird that there are kids who are in the program who won't sign. It is kinda cool......at least they're getting the option to chose which language they will use. I think some of them might use ASL if they still have significent speech delays....besides its an awesome tool for the whole friend thing....you know? You know......maybe a good idea if you have the workshop, would be to have the kids attending the workshop (maybe it could be during school hours) turn off their hearing aids/CIs, while you sign. Maybe then that will make a lot of kids think....." Oh...so I can talk without my hearing aid or CI!...I have another tool to use!"
Some of the kids who are more oral may be picking up from their parents or society at large that ASL is "special needs" and they don't " need" it b/c they can hear. I remember I thought that way as a little kid.
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Families learn the signs at the Library every Fridays. With kids too. They can't take CI or hearing aids off, because doctor required to leave them on all the times.
 
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