Where does Obama’s Money Come From?

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are both of them your dads?
 
Hermes said:
They are not bringing democracy or freedom.. Its the propoganda part.. Today bringing democracy means integrating nations to global system. Next you see international corporations and banks are there, then that country will start borrowing money, sell out its resources etc..
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Uh, you might want to check with the Iraqis on that one.
 
jiro123 said:
and Democratic were in it too. I don't see Democratic Congress doing anything to cock-blocking White House like what Republican Congress did to Clinton.... :hmm: Talk about major misplacement of blame


awaiting for Brad's childish insulting reply. Gotta put on my BS Kevlar helmet
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And I'm still awaiting the contrast and comparison of Obama's vision and Marxism that you promised. Come on; break that conservative mold and actually follow through on a promise.
 
so.... how about that Obama's speech, huh?
 
Yes, he did an excellent job of not only outlining his vision, and explaining the ways in which it will be accomplished.

He's done half your work for you. Pick any one of the points he made, and compare and contrast to show how his points are Marxist.
 
jillio said:
And I'm still awaiting the contrast and comparison of Obama's vision and Marxism that you promised.
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can't. not today. it's nearly 11:30pm and I'm exhausted to do anything productive. I think I will narrow the scope of Marxism and Obama to strictly health care issue and maybe the overall vision.
 
jiro123 said:
can't. not today. it's nearly 11:30pm and I'm exhausted to do anything productive. I think I will narrow the scope of Marxism and Obama to strictly health care issue and maybe the overall vision.
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Exactly what I expected from you. Always the excuse for not following through on what you have stated you can substantiate.

I guess we all know that you are, quite simply, incapable of substantiating the claim of Marxist policies from Obama.

I guess being on AD all day long just wore you out.
 
jillio said:
Yes, he did an excellent job of not only outlining his vision, and explaining the ways in which it will be accomplished.

He's done half your work for you. Pick any one of the points he made, and compare and contrast to show how his points are Marxist.
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One thing did puzzle me - that's a lot of promises he laid out and I'm wondering how the heck we are going to afford it. And it does reek of some socialism and his vision means an expansion of government.

I look forward to McCain's speech and his rebuttal. If it's lousy - then I guess I'll know who to vote for.
 
Great speech and if it doesn't convince certain people to vote for Obama, then I have no idea what will.
 
jillio said:
Exactly what I expected from you. Always the excuse for not following through on what you have stated you can substantiate.

I guess we all know that you are, quite simply, incapable of substantiating the claim of Marxist policies from Obama.
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if that's how you perceive it, then so be it.
 
jiro123 said:
One thing did puzzle me - that's a lot of promises he laid out and I'm wondering how the heck we are going to afford it. And it does reek of some socialism and his vision means an expansion of government.
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Uhh, stop spending all our money in Iraq? Are you really that dense? :roll:
 
jiro123 said:
One thing did puzzle me - that's a lot of promises he laid out and I'm wondering how the heck we are going to afford it. And it does reek of some socialism and his vision means an expansion of government.
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Did you have the CC on during his speech? He already explained it.

Now you are softening your position from Marxist to socialist. Still nothing to substantiate it.
 
jiro123 said:
if that's how you perceive it, then so be it.
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Its not how I perceive it. Its the way it is. You promised substaniation today, and now you are trying to back out of it.
 
jillio said:
Did you have the CC on during his speech? He already explained it.

Now you are softening your position from Marxist to socialist. Still nothing to substantiate it.
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Let's just face it, people like jiro123 are hopeless. They will never get it.
 
jillio said:
Did you have the CC on during his speech? He already explained it.

Now you are softening your position from Marxist to socialist. Still nothing to substantiate it.
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? I've repeatedly said socialism more than Marxism. Check back. and yes I've read his speech word by word. still not convincing me. All I hear is expansion of government, 90% of his promises will not even come to fruition, and lack of incentive for healthy market competition
 
jiro123 said:
uh..... are you a simple-minded bumble bee?
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You're the one with the simple mind.

Obama speaks: Lifting America from its' doldrums
jiro123's brain: socialism! government expansion! marxism! inexperience! x 1000
 
jillio said:
But Obama clarified in his speech tonight that he, indeed, does get it.
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People are free to vote for McCain but honestly, I can't ever understand why people would want to.
 
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