What your plan for Columbus Day 3 days weekend ?

whatdidyousay! said:
I just called a Federal Representative and asked why we're still celebrating Columbus Day and the woman said in childish voice "We always
celebrated Columbus Day !" I told her he was not a very nice that he used Native American as slaves and cut them up and she should look him up ! I tried calling my state Representative too and their voice message said the office was open to 5PM but to call back when they're open. HUH??? I called at 3PM . I guess they don't know how to tell time .
This is 2015 and people should know the truth about what kind of person
Columbus was by now.
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Ever read the lottery?
 
whatdidyousay! said:
That is not my point at all , it was the kind of man Columbus was . This would like be Jewish people being celebrating Hitler birthday . We should not being celebrating a person like Columbus .
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Or palistinians celebrating isreals b day.....
Mmmmmm...
 
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"Berkeley, California, is thought to be the first city to adopt Indigenous People's Day, in 1992 " I remember when I kept my daughter home for Columbus Day when we lived in Berkeley her teacher wanted to why she wasn't in on Monday , I was told they didn't celebrate Columbus Day . So I bet Indigenous People's Day did start in Ca.
 
whatdidyousay! said:
Yes! a long time ago.
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Sadly your post reminded me of it... Why celebrate cloumbis day... Because its tradition...
Seems a silly reason to me... We should correct history not repeat the same falsities ... But ah why when attacks on actual history seems like a better plan... Weird society we have here lol
 
Jezie said:
Sadly your post reminded me of it... Why celebrate cloumbis day... Because its tradition...
Seems a silly reason to me... We should correct history not repeat the same falsities ... But ah why when attacks on actual history seems like a better plan... Weird society we have here lol
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I was trying to tell about what happen to Native American in the 60's and people didn't believe it. I carried the book ' Black Elk Speaks' with me and people wanted to know why , I told them it was my 'bible'.
 
whatdidyousay! said:
I was trying to tell about what happen to Native American in the 60's and people didn't believe it. I carried the book ' Black Elk Speaks' with me and people wanted to know why , I told them it was my 'bible'.
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It is sad... Good book but some better ones out there as well... Grandfather often gives and sends me books... And his stories... People want to know about oppression should skip the African American history and slavery and read on Irish immigrants and Native American history... Much much worse...
 
whatdidyousay! said:
I was trying to tell about what happen to Native American in the 60's and people didn't believe it. I carried the book ' Black Elk Speaks' with me and people wanted to know why , I told them it was my 'bible'.
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I guess it depends where. At my high school in CT we were taught about what happened to Native Americans, and that was in the late 60's.
 
Jezie said:
It is sad... Good book but some better ones out there as well... Grandfather often gives and sends me books... And his stories... People want to know about oppression should skip the African American history and slavery and read on Irish immigrants and Native American history... Much much worse...
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Yeah I know Irish had a hard and so did every immigrants that came here , my dad was from Russia and it wasn't easy from his family being Russian Jews. Italians had a hard time too. My dad was having a building build and a young Italian man asked my dad if he needed any more help and dad hired the guy . Years later my mom and sister ran into the guy and he told them if it wasn't for her husband he would never had gotten a job , he said no one would hire him b/c he was Italian. He hungry and was about to turn to crime to get some food.
 
whatdidyousay! said:
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Yeah I know Irish had a hard and so did every immigrants that came here , my dad was from Russia and it wasn't easy from his family being Russian Jews. Italians had a hard time too. My dad was having a building build and a young Italian man asked my dad if he needed any more help and dad hired the guy . Years later my mom and sister ran into the guy and he told them if it wasn't for her husband he would never had gotten a job , he said no one would hire him b/c he was Italian. He hungry and was about to turn to crime to get some food.
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That is the truth... I was going to add them but realized it would have been wordy... You said it better all immigrants... Natives still had it worse then the rest though... Many are still bitter and have the right... The crap is still happening today... But nothing is said about it...
 
Jezie said:
That is the truth... I was going to add them but realized it would have been wordy... You said it better all immigrants... Natives still had it worse then the rest though... Many are still bitter and have the right... The crap is still happening today... But nothing is said about it...
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When I was in college a teacher was telling the class about some Native
Americans watching a western movie and the teacher said every time an
Indian was killed in the movie the Native Americans would cheer .
The teacher asked the class why would they do that and waited for someone to say something , not one student raised their hand ,I finally did I hated talking in class and said it was b/c they were robbed of their culture and made to feel bad about their self . This was so long ago I can't recall just what I said but it was something like that and my teacher said yes that is right. I was surprised no one else in the class said anything . Some people believe what they heard and don't bother to find out if it's true .
 
whatdidyousay! said:
When I was in college a teacher was telling the class about some Native
Americans watching a western movie and the teacher said every time an
Indian was killed in the movie the Native Americans would cheer .
The teacher asked the class why would they do that and waited for someone to say something , not one student raised their hand ,I finally did I hated talking in class and said it was b/c they were robbed of their culture and made to feel bad about their self . This was so long ago I can't recall just what I said but it was something like that and my teacher said yes that is right. I was surprised no one else in the class said anything . Some people believe what they heard and don't bother to find out if it's true .
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Hmm... I do not know about that (not sure how else to put that, but not saying you are wrong or anything, sorry if it seems that way) ... I would have to talk to grandfather... It is not what I have been taught or experienced ... It is a sad experience I am sure... Sent pm read rest there..
 
whatdidyousay! said:
When I was in college a teacher was telling the class about some Native
Americans watching a western movie and the teacher said every time an
Indian was killed in the movie the Native Americans would cheer .
The teacher asked the class why would they do that and waited for someone to say something , not one student raised their hand ,I finally did I hated talking in class and said it was b/c they were robbed of their culture and made to feel bad about their self . This was so long ago I can't recall just what I said but it was something like that and my teacher said yes that is right. I was surprised no one else in the class said anything . Some people believe what they heard and don't bother to find out if it's true .
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I think I know why the Natives were cheering over the western movie. They were cheering over white people dressed like Indians (Native people don't approved of them becoming Indians in the movie industry) being killed and also they were cheering living Natives because they fought against the military soldiers in the battle before the Natives died. You have to remember that it is just a made up western movies. They would cheer any Natives that are in the T.V. series or movies like Jay Silverheels in the old western of Lone Ranger. They would cheer for Jay Silverheels.

Make any sense what I am saying?
 
Bebonang said:
I think I know why the Natives were cheering over the western movie. They were cheering over white people dressed like Indians (Native people don't approved of them becoming Indians in the movie industry) being killed and also they were cheering living Natives because they fought against the military soldiers in the battle before the Natives died. You have to remember that it is just a made up western movies. They would cheer any Natives that are in the T.V. series or movies like Jay Silverheels in the old western of Lone Ranger. They would cheer for Jay Silverheels.

Make any sense what I am saying?
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Yes , that made perfect sense ! I know they were made up western , I am surprise Native Americans cheered for Jay Silverheels b/c he was friend of a white man 'The Longer Ranger'. His real name was Harold John Smith .
 
Reba said:
I guess it depends where. At my high school in CT we were taught about what happened to Native Americans, and that was in the late 60's.
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We weren't at my school , my daughter came home from once with her history book to show me a small paragraph about the government giving Native Americans blankets infected with smallpox . It had about 4 sentences and that was all it said about our treatment of Native Americans

About a week later I was driving around and found a store owned by
Native Americans and I went and got talking to the owner about my daughter history book . The guy told that Native Americans been trying to get the truth about happen to them in the history books and was very upset about the small paragraph in the history books. I use to tell people what happen the Native Americans in the 60's and they didn't believe , and refused to believe what Columbus did to them. I told my daughter about the blankets and I that was the first time I saw it a school history book.
Do you remeber what grade you were told about what happen to the
Native Americans? I could miss this b/c I was in the reject class in JR
high and we were not given the same books as the rest of school .
The school didn't want to 'waste money and time ''on us !






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