What kind of gun sling do you prefer?

[jonnyghost]

yes. it's like all-in-one package but I don't feel comfortable that way because the sling has 2 "tapes" (I dunno what to call it - strap? rope? etc.) together. I prefer just a single tape.


yes. I was referring to swivel that moves around. It was found to be noisy. My friend has MagPul 3-points (or was it 2-points?) for his M4 and he didn't like it. wayyy too noisy. the swivel I want and as shown in the pix are in fixed position for sling to go thru.

I see, i have never had any noisy swivels. That would be bad, deer have very good hearing. I think if you're only hunting the traditional sling is fine. For home defense or other situations where you neeed to keep the gun at the ready you should still consider a single point. I'm not saying you're wrong, it really is what ever you are comfortable with but there is a reason for single point carry.

 

[Reba]

do bungee sling bounce up and down?

A little bit but not like jumping off a bridge with one.

 

[Jiro]

Reba - for creating this thread. it's like a sight for sore eyes!

I've actually researched and pondered about sling for a couple months last year. My friend has almost all kinds - single-point, 2-points, 3-points, MagPul, etc but I'd have to ask him which one he really likes the most. I've concluded that traditional sling is the best.

in CQB scenario - I don't use sling. when I do shotgun-handgun, I only have 2 transitions for it. when my shotgun's empty, my transition would require me to hold my shotgun with my left hand, hugging it to my chest while my right hand shoots with a handgun... which is why depending on a situation where I need to shoot my handgun with both hands, I'd throw down my shotgun.

I don't do rifle. I've never liked it. I'm thinking of removing a shell holder on the side and use a shell pouch instead

 

[jonnyghost]

I'll have to disagree with you there. I think slings are a must on a self defense gun. You can give first aid, drag a wounded person, carry a child to safety, transition to pistol, climb over an obstical etc without leaving your gun behind.

 

[Reba]

Reba - for creating this thread. it's like a sight for sore eyes!

' Welcome.

...I don't do rifle. I've never liked it.

What don't you like about rifles?

I'm thinking of removing a shell holder on the side and use a shell pouch instead

Shells are kind of a nuisance to carry. When we do skeet, I put them evenly divided between the two main pockets on my vest. By the end of the shoot, I feel so relieved to be rid of that extra weight. I might get a separate bag for next time. At least I could set it down once in a while.

These are things that probably don't bother young guys.

Trust me. Age is not just a number.

 

[Reba]

I'll have to disagree with you there. I think slings are a must on a self defense gun. You can give first aid, drag a wounded person, carry a child to safety, transition to pistol, climb over an obstical etc without leaving your gun behind.

What kind of home defense scenario are you envisioning?

 

[Reba]

for home defense, you don't really need a sling. in fact - it's bad idea to have a sling for home defense but in most case, a shotgun/rifle is kept at closet or somewhere and a sling can snags onto something in the heat of the moment.

in any case of emergency or hostile situation (like for police officer) - "simple simple simple" is the best and most lethal. that's why my shotgun is nearly bare but it has swivel (no sling) and a shell holder on the side although I'm thinking of removing it cuz it's such a snagger.

each method has its pros and cons. I prefer to stick with the simplest and proven method that works fine for decades because it doesn't make you think. I'm not a big fan of those new "tactical" methods. it's just too confusing for me.

but hey... to each his own...

Thanks for the images.

To me, the tactical ones look versatile, with many options.

I was thinking specifically for rifles, not shotguns.

At least you didn't say "I'm not a big fan of those new-fangled 'tactical' methods."

 

[jonnyghost]

well probably not gonna do much climbing but if someone comes in my house i'm gonna grab the gun and head to my sons room. If i have to move him i'd like to not have to leave my loaded gun behind for the invader. As far as first aid... well if it wasn't dangerouse then i wouldn't need a gun.

 

[Jiro]

Thanks for the images.

To me, the tactical ones look versatile, with many options.

I was thinking specifically for rifles, not shotguns.

At least you didn't say "I'm not a big fan of those new-fangled 'tactical' methods."

The concept is still very similar for both rifle and shotgun with same carry methods. But yea I thought same about a tactical sling being versatile but I've concluded that I should steer away from a method that has many options especially when it comes to lethal situation. Lot of options means lot of confusion and higher chances of failure.

Lot of options mean you have to "think". I don't want to think when shooting. I can't see how we can perform with only muscle memory for these tasks that have many options.

If you're at the range, having a good time and whatnot... I don't see anything wrong with any sling you want but for me, I prefer to stick with what I use for most scenarios. Best way to keep my muscle memory sharp.

 

[Jiro]

I'll have to disagree with you there. I think slings are a must on a self defense gun. You can give first aid, drag a wounded person, carry a child to safety, transition to pistol, climb over an obstical etc without leaving your gun behind.

... in your own home? That sounds like you live in Syria or a war-torn country...

I strongly discourage using a sling at home. It's a CQB scenario.

long gun with a sling + narrow hallway = what?

There ya go. But hey... that's up to you. Your gun. Your home.

 

[jonnyghost]

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... in your own home? That sounds like you live in Syria or a war-torn country...

I strongly discourage using a sling at home. It's a CQB scenario.

long gun with a sling + narrow hallway = what?

There ya go. But hey... that's up to you. Your gun. Your home.

i didn't mean all at the same time. But like i just mentioned what if i need to carry my son out of the house because t i think someone is in there? Should i leave the rifle behind? Out of my hands and into the intruders? What if my wife gets hurt and i have to carry her out to safety? What do narrow halways have to do with slings?

 

[jonnyghost]

Oh, you probably mean the bad guy grabbing the gun and jerking you around with it. Well i'd rather remain attached then just give him the gun. Besides, if you have a sling then you could simply transition to pistol to pie the corners too tight to do with a long gun.

 

[Jiro]

i didn't mean all at the same time. But like i just mentioned what if i need to carry my son out of the house because t i think someone is in there?

I don't think I would be comfortable with carrying a rifle in a sling while holding a child. no way. I can easily see so many things can go wrong with this.

Should i leave the rifle behind? Out of my hands and into the intruders? What if my wife gets hurt and i have to carry her out to safety?

if your wife got hurt... then where's a thug? probably long gone already and a cop's probably already on scene by then. I don't recommend carrying your wife out while carrying a gun because a cop could mistaken you as an abusive husband or something.

I recommend you to plan an emergency protocol with your family in case of break-in so that all of you would scurry away to a specific location together and close the door with your rifle/shotgun/handgun trained at the door. plus - you should shout repeatedly that you are armed and a cop is on the way. I doubt a thug would stick around if he heard you shouting something.

most robbers do not resort to murder or assault. they simply run away if somebody's in the house. jail time for a simple B&E and aggravated robbery is a huge difference.

What do narrow halways have to do with slings?

you can't perform a weapon transition in a narrow hallway.

have you done several dry runs with your method?

 

[Jiro]

' Welcome.

What don't you like about rifles?

I guess it's just not my thing. it doesn't appeal to me. It's just like this old guy in west Maryland who probably has more guns in his home than an average gun shop does

He has all shotguns but not a single rifle or handgun. I asked him why not one semiautomatic gun like glock? he shrugged and said - "eh. never liked it. don't need'em."

Shells are kind of a nuisance to carry. When we do skeet, I put them evenly divided between the two main pockets on my vest. By the end of the shoot, I feel so relieved to be rid of that extra weight. I might get a separate bag for next time. At least I could set it down once in a while.

These are things that probably don't bother young guys.

Trust me. Age is not just a number.

this is what I use for shells - Dump Demo Pouch . It's bit too big for my need and I haven't contacted them yet to give them some suggestions for shell pouch.

TacticalTailor's a great site. Made in America. Founded by an army veteran (unfortunately died in car accident 5 years ago). More story about his business - history

 

[jonnyghost]

Yes you can carry a child with a two point sling. There are no local police in my town and rarely any county cops. Called them once and it took 20 min to show up. If you can scare away bad guys by screaming then why do you need a gun? Yes you can transition in a narrow hallway. Should i leave my wife behind because the cops might think i'm a bad guy?

Last year my brothers childhood friends where arrested in my town because they where breaking into houses and beating people until they told them where the valuables where. A couple miles down the road from my dad a guy machettied a father and twelve year old daugter for a coin collectin.

I have a plan and practice it. I take safety ofall kinds seriously and know how to use the tools i've selected to exicute these plans.

 

[Jiro]

Oh, you probably mean the bad guy grabbing the gun and jerking you around with it. Well i'd rather remain attached then just give him the gun. Besides, if you have a sling then you could simply transition to pistol to pie the corners too tight to do with a long gun.

there's really no reason for a bad guy to be face-to-face with you in your own home unless he was planning to murder/kidnap/tie you. but for the sake of argument, let's keep it simple and limit the scenario to a simple B&E (breaking and entering) - in other word... a robbery.

if it got to the point where both of you are fighting over a gun, then your method has failed. you shouldn't be going around your house to look for him. leave it to cops to deal with it.

and do you really have time to grab a long gun and handgun at the same time? how are you going to carry a handgun if you're carrying a long gun? putting on a holster takes time.

 

[Reba]

...this is what I use for shells - Dump Demo Pouch . It's bit too big for my need and I haven't contacted them yet to give them some suggestions for shell pouch.

It comes in several colors but no pink.

TacticalTailor's a great site. Made in America. Founded by an army veteran (unfortunately died in car accident 5 years ago). More story about his business - history

I'll check it out.

 

[Reba]

... you should shout repeatedly that you are armed and a cop is on the way. I doubt a thug would stick around if he heard you shouting something....

Just hope the bad guy isn't deaf!

 

[jonnyghost]

I just gave you two examples of assults in my neigborhood. There is no assurence they are only there to rob you. If someone breakes into your house while you are there it's a safe assumption they mean you no good. I'm not always in the same rooms as the rest of my family. I'm not going to wait 20 min for the cops to show with my family in other rooms. I carry a hand gun always unless i'm sleeping or showering so there is a good chance i already have one.

 

[jonnyghost]

So bad guys are only there to rob you. You will not come face to face wit them. The will run away when you yell at them and the cops will be there before there is trouble.

Seems like wishfull thinking to me.