What is a pro-life?

[Liebling:-)))]

Yes, some. Really, I dont want to see any drama here, feel upset and be leftout when some comments can be offended, and etc..

for reason, i felt offended by your post.. so i asked you to leave in a respect.

What have I offend you here, that´s because I show you 2 fact links... Can you show me where have I offend you then?

Why you create a thread under Debate Section then?

Please use common sense and respect AllDeaf rules.

 

[KarissaMann05]

What have I offend you here, that´s because I show you 2 fact links... Can you show me where have I offend you then?

Why you create a thread under Debate Section then?

Please use common sense and respect AllDeaf rules.

Why you create a thread under Debate Section then?

Please use common sense and respect AllDeaf rules.

I am only asking pro-lifers.. And, I am easily disagreed with pro-choicers so i just dont want to have an BIG angument here.. y'know?

What have I offend you here, that´s because I show you 2 fact links... Can you show me where have I offend you then?

To see the below. *i'm now typing it*

 

[KarissaMann05]

Respectfully disagree. No, it´s not rude but fact. We need to open our mind to see the fact either we are really pro-life or not. It´s good education for us.

At first I thought I am a pro-life until I learn from those 2 links what pro-choice and pro-life is about. I need to open my mind and accept the fact what really I am.

I would call myself as hypothetical if I claim that I am for pro-life and support abortion to save mother and childs´ risk life, health reason etc and euthanasia to save their suffering. I am against war, death penalty and abortion as birth control.



To my view, FORCE the women to abort is pain WRONG. It´s UP TO WOMEN either they want to keep baby or not WITHOUT get influence from anyone. It´s women´s choice, not everyone.

this post.. i felt offended. Because you sound like you "DONT care" how I feel about my "near-death" while I explained how I was almost aborted. That made me to think anyone do not care about adoptees, survivors of abortion, children of rapists, and etc.. Your post made me a little bit of depressing.. thats why i ask you to leave...

 

[KarissaMann05]

this post.. i felt offended. Because you sound like you "DONT care" how I feel about my "near-death" while I explained how I was almost aborted. That made me to think anyone do not care about adoptees, survivors of abortion, children of rapists, and etc.. Your post made me a little bit of depressing.. thats why i ask you to leave...

And, I pretty agreed with "no one should force women to abort"... mmm.. :[

 

[Liebling:-)))]

this post.. i felt offended. Because you sound like you "DONT care" how I feel about my "near-death" while I explained how I was almost aborted. That made me to think anyone do not care about adoptees, survivors of abortion, children of rapists, and etc.. Your post made me a little bit of depressing.. thats why i ask you to leave...

I already said that "To my view, FORCE the women to abort is pain WRONG" which mean is your Grandmother is wrong to force your mother to abort you because your mother want to keep you. That´s what I am trying to explain that it´s up to your mother if she want to keep you or not but your mother DECIDE to keep you without get influence from your Grandmother. It´s your mother´s CHOICE, not your Grandmother. Understand what I am trying to explain you. I do not intend to offend you but give you right that nobody has the right to force their children to abort their babies.

 

[vrsterp]

Do you believe in a "consistent life ethic" or would you simply call yourself "anti-abortion?"

I'm not here to argue, but I think that "anti-abortion" is a good way to put it, considering most people who call themselves "pro life" are very choosy about whose lives they think are worthy of living.

the Catholic Church is pro-life on all of the life issues.

Except for animals. They don't count, of course.

 

[KarissaMann05]

I already said that "To my view, FORCE the women to abort is pain WRONG" which mean is your Grandmother is wrong to force your mother to abort you because your mother want to keep you. That´s what I am trying to explain that it´s up to your mother if she want to keep you or not but your mother DECIDE to keep you without get influence from your Grandmother. It´s your mother´s CHOICE, not your Grandmother. Understand what I am trying to explain you. I do not intend to offend you but give you right that nobody has the right to force their children to abort their babies.

I understand your post but I point at "mother's choice": ((Well, what if she did force her to do it, some of my good friends (inculding my best friend) will FUCKED UP and rot. I feel like... people do dervse to have a life, not throw their lives away. I dont see how it option is the best choice... That's fucking creepy..))

And then, you said it's mother's choice... what if she wants to abort me? I feel like... no one care about our lives. :/ just... depressing.

 

[KarissaMann05]

I'm not here to argue, but I think that "anti-abortion" is a good way to put it, considering most people who call themselves "pro life" are very choosy about whose lives they think are worthy of living.

Hmm. good one.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

I understand your post but I point at "mother's choice": ((Well, what if she did force her to do it, some of my good friends (inculding my best friend) will FUCKED UP and rot. I feel like... people do dervse to have a life, not throw their lives away. I dont see how it option is the best choice... That's fucking creepy..))

And then, you said it's mother's choice... what if she wants to abort me? I feel like... no one care about our lives. :/ just... depressing.

Yes I can understand where you come from and how you feel. Let me share my story about my sister bit which is opposite to you.

I urged my teen sister to not abort her baby and suggest her to give baby up for an adoption. She changed her mind for not give her baby up for an adoption in last minute after just gave birth to baby. We disagreed on this because we know she would be unhappy which is unfair for a baby. Her situation goes worst.. She abused her children terrible.... and also abuse herself as well until she died last year. I wish to shut my mouth and let my Dad and relatives urged her to abort. She would of alive and have brilliant future instead of trap and become bad mother... and look how terrible behavior her children are. (trouble with laws and school a lot). That's why I support women's choice unless they will abuse their own children if they are force to keep their baby when they do not feel ready to be mothers.

 

[Mistyrose]

Liebling...You are not understanding what this
thread is about.
Its about PRO-LIFE, period.
Please respect that.
If you want to talk about your Pro=choice and your
poor sister's story and all, go back to the other thread, then.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Liebling...You are not understanding what this
thread is about.
Its about PRO-LIFE, period.
Please respect that.
If you want to talk about your Pro=choice and your
poor sister's story and all, go back to the other thread, then.

I have no problem to debate with Mann_K05 since she has a polite with me.

I would be appreciate when you do not stalk me to several threads and tell me what to do.

Thank you.

 

[christlovedeaf]

I agree with man and also reba. Problem is, Pro- choices is like women we need to concern, babies, so what, I don't care how babies think or feels, women are more important, we have to understand fetus and blah blah blah. I am very strong anti-abortion. So, babies have no choice (pro-choice). Babies has no voice (its like pro choice stuff the babies throat).

 

[Maria]

I have no problem to debate with Mann_K05 since she has a polite with me.

I would be appreciate when you do not stalk me to several threads and tell me what to do.

Thank you.

I would suggest you to create your own thread if you want to talk about " Pro-choice ". This thread is about " Pro-Life ". If, you are not supportin' pro-life, then do not post here. Please, respect the creator of this thread. Ok ?

 

[KarissaMann05]

Yes I can understand where you come from and how you feel. Let me share my story about my sister bit which is opposite to you.

I urged my teen sister to not abort her baby and suggest her to give baby up for an adoption. She changed her mind for not give her baby up for an adoption in last minute after just gave birth to baby. We disagreed on this because we know she would be unhappy which is unfair for a baby. Her situation goes worst.. She abused her children terrible.... and also abuse herself as well until she died last year. I wish to shut my mouth and let my Dad and relatives urged her to abort. She would of alive and have brilliant future instead of trap and become bad mother... and look how terrible behavior her children are. (trouble with laws and school a lot). That's why I support women's choice unless they will abuse their own children if they are force to keep their baby when they do not feel ready to be mothers.

Oooo... you said her children are terrible and then are they worthless thaat should throw their lives away like a toliet? I'm sure that children have both dark & bright sides. It could not be one side they have.. actually, I grew up in deaf school and was bullied brutelly by some students for some years but I turned out okay. I have a harder life, just like her children, so my life should be killed off?
You see, i'm tried of unwanted *bastard* children have no value as people claim, and do we have no value of lives if we are not wanted? One time, I was asked by a child asked, "what if I am not wanted, can I be killed?" That's so depressing... COS... her parent always told her that they wish they should abort her while they still loved her. Right front of me, I'm not joking.. What's a kind of love is that?
In the fact, the girl is a threatren (sp) survivor of abortion.. (to see what is an abortion survivor - TEN DIFFERENT TYPES OF "ABORTION SURVIVORS") That website is similar to that child's life, the 10 years old girl.

AND, I'm very sorry about your sister and her children too.. I truly do.
But, I dont believe that her children's lives should throw away.

PLUS, I feel still offended by your post some more... This is for pro-lifers only to share with their opinions... You are not helpful since you are definitely pro-choice and I want you to leave here. Please? Thank you.

PS- You can create your own thread for pro-choice. That's cool

 

[Liebling:-)))]

I would suggest you to create your own thread if you want to talk about " Pro-choice ". This thread is about " Pro-Life ". If, you are not supportin' pro-life, then do not post here. Please, respect the creator of this thread. Ok ?

I do not need to create a new thread about pro-choice because I already posted in those link
http://www.alldeaf.com/topic-debates/33743-you-pro-life-pro-choice.html

I can post about pro-life here if I like to as long as there´re no insult/bash.

 

[KarissaMann05]

I agree with man and also reba. Problem is, Pro- choices is like women we need to concern, babies, so what, I don't care how babies think or feels, women are more important, we have to understand fetus and blah blah blah. I am very strong anti-abortion. So, babies have no choice (pro-choice). Babies has no voice (its like pro choice stuff the babies throat).

Please be nice.. I dont know if you are pro-choice or not.. If you are, this is not place for you and please leave here. Thank you.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Oooo... you said her children are terrible and then are they worthless thaat should throw their lives away like a toliet? I'm sure that children have both dark & bright sides. It could not be one side they have.. actually, I grew up in deaf school and was bullied brutelly by some students for some years but I turned out okay. I have a harder life, just like her children, so my life should be killed off?
You see, i'm tried of unwanted *bastard* children have no value as people claim, and do we have no value of lives if we are not wanted? One time, I was asked by a child asked, "what if I am not wanted, can I be killed?" That's so depressing... COS... her parent always told her that they wish they should abort her while they still loved her. Right front of me, I'm not joking.. What's a kind of love is that?
In the fact, the girl is a threatren (sp) survivor of abortion.. (to see what is an abortion survivor - TEN DIFFERENT TYPES OF "ABORTION SURVIVORS") That website is similar to that child's life, the 10 years old girl.

My nephew and niece do not deserve to have mother like my sister. It´s really very, very, very, sad. It´s long story, that´s not just what you thought. They had been trouble with laws, polices and school real alot.... They told me that they do wish other mother. Of course my sister told me herself that she is very regret to being bad mother and do not wish to expose her children like this because her children do not deserve like this. I really feel hurt for my nephew and niece.

I read those link, you provided. It´s REALLY horrible and very sad... it´s not right to threat the children like this... NEVER; NEVER; NEVER say those word to children like that.

AND, I'm very sorry about your sister and her children too.. I truly do.
But, I dont believe that her children's lives should throw away.

Thank you but her children wish to have right mother with good enirovment. I still miss my sister and still take care of her children and contact with them.

PLUS, I feel still offended by your post some more... This is for pro-lifers only to share with their opinions... You are not helpful since you are definitely pro-choice and I want you to leave here. Please? Thank you.

Okay, I thought I share my view about pro-life here... *shrug* That´s what you want is fine with me.. .

PS- You can create your own thread for pro-choice. That's cool

No, it´s not necassary because I already posted in those link

http://www.alldeaf.com/topic-debates/33743-you-pro-life-pro-choice.html

 

[KarissaMann05]

My nephew and niece do not deserve to have mother like my sister. It´s really very, very, very, sad. It´s long story, that´s not just what you thought. They had been trouble with laws, polices and school real alot.... They told me that they do wish other mother. Of course my sister told me herself that she is very regret to being bad mother and do not wish to expose her children like this because her children do not deserve like this. I really feel hurt for my nephew and niece.

Gee...

I read those link, you provided. It´s REALLY horrible and very sad... it´s not right to threat the children like this... NEVER; NEVER; NEVER say those word to children like that.


I agreed. that would cause children feel so unwanted.

Thank you but her children wish to have right mother with good enirovment. I still miss my sister and still take care of her children and contact with them.

oh, aw.. I hope everything is sovle soon. Also, your welcome.


Okay, I thought I share my view about pro-life here... *shrug* That´s what you want is fine with me.. .

Ok, thank you.

No, it´s not necassary because I already posted in those link

http://www.alldeaf.com/topic-debates/33743-you-pro-life-pro-choice.html

Cool.

 

[christlovedeaf]

Please be nice.. I dont know if you are pro-choice or not.. If you are, this is not place for you and please leave here. Thank you.

oh, may misunderstood me, i am very strong prolifer, what i was quoting is from pro choicers the way they are doing. that is what im saying. try to make myself clearer

 

[Mistyrose]

I have no problem to debate with Mann_K05 since she has a polite with me.

I would be appreciate when you do not stalk me to several threads and tell me what to do.

Thank you.

Do not accuse me of stalker! that is so absurd.
Im just telling you that you are in a wrong thread if you
want to talk about pro-choice, thats all. This thread is
about pro-life, period..you know the difference.
I would say the same about you that you are the stalker,
you are reading my post, heh! so dont be so silly!

Thank you!