What Induces Fear?

jillio said:
Exactly. Extropia is a pulling inward, incyclophoria is a pulling outward. Your eyes cannot pull inward and outward simultaneously without exploding.:giggle:
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Exo- is Greek for "out." Exotropia is pulling outwards. Incyclophoria, as the IN- denotes, is pulling inwards. They're on different axes so they can co-occur.
 
Nika said:
Okay, starting over folks.

I can't cite sources cause I've been doing research on this ever since I was scheduled to have surgery at age 12 so now it's just acquired knowledge. I can try to find some articles on it if you want.

The eyeballs have six muscles. Two of them help the eyes turn left and right. Two of them help the eyes turn up and down. And the last two help the eyes tilt inwards and outwards (they help with some other stuff but I will leave it out for simplicity's sake.) When I say "tilting," this is what I mean: imagine that your pupil is lined up exactly with the center of a clock. The outside of your eyeball is lined up with the edge of the clock. Your optic nerve is behind the clock; your cornea is in front of the clock. Then imagine you would draw a line on the clock, from 9:00 straight to 3:00, through the center of the clock. Cyclophoria is when the eyeball would turn so that line would end up going from 2:00 to 8:00 or from 4:00 to 10:00.

My eyeballs turned outwards, so that my eyes visible wandered towards my temples. At the same time, they titled inwards, meaning that the top halves of my eyeballs were towards my nose and the bottom halves of my eyeballs were towards my temples. They are not diametrically opposites because incyclotropia/excyclophoria and exotropia/esotropia deal with two different dimensions. Eso/exo rotate on an axis that runs up-down. Incylco/excyclo run on an axis that runs front-back.

Does that make sense?
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No it does not make sense. What was surgery for?
 
AlleyCat said:
Okay. This was a thread about what induces fear. If you two want to have a discussion about believing Nika's statements, take it elsewhere.
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Sorry about that. I get a little carried away.

My fear is the fact that I have to entertain people tonight and be social. <shudder>
 
nika,

i still don't understand and am more confused than ever. how can your eyes turn outward and inward at the same time? i have nystagmus which is horizontal and circular in nature, so it makes perfect sense that my eyes do this.
 
how can a surgeon correct dual inward and outward circulation of the eye when this is a natural occurance in the first place?

okay, that's all i'm going to say on the matter for fear of being banned.
 
Bottesini said:
My father in law had this surgery at age two. No result of blindness. It is a minor procedure.
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Yup, it's a very simple procedure. It's an outpatient-procedure nowadays and they use adjustable sutures so that overcorrection or undercorrection during surgery can be corrected in the office two days later during the post-op checkup.
 
Nika said:
Okay, starting over folks.

I can't cite sources cause I've been doing research on this ever since I was scheduled to have surgery at age 12 so now it's just acquired knowledge. I can try to find some articles on it if you want.

The eyeballs have six muscles. Two of them help the eyes turn left and right. Two of them help the eyes turn up and down. And the last two help the eyes tilt inwards and outwards (they help with some other stuff but I will leave it out for simplicity's sake.) When I say "tilting," this is what I mean: imagine that your pupil is lined up exactly with the center of a clock. The outside of your eyeball is lined up with the edge of the clock. Your optic nerve is behind the clock; your cornea is in front of the clock. Then imagine you would draw a line on the clock, from 9:00 straight to 3:00, through the center of the clock. Cyclophoria is when the eyeball would turn so that line would end up going from 2:00 to 8:00 or from 4:00 to 10:00.

My eyeballs turned outwards, so that my eyes visible wandered towards my temples. At the same time, they titled inwards, meaning that the top halves of my eyeballs were towards my nose and the bottom halves of my eyeballs were towards my temples. They are not diametrically opposites because incyclotropia/excyclophoria and exotropia/esotropia deal with two different dimensions. Eso/exo rotate on an axis that runs up-down. Incylco/excyclo run on an axis that runs front-back.

Does that make sense?
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But your postings would appear to be direct quotes from medical texts and professional journals. If they were paraphrased they would not be phrased in the way they are. Laymen do not use the jargon reserved for professionally written texts and research. Just saying.

And, BTW, that scares me.
 
jillio said:
But your postings would appear to be direct quotes from medical texts and professional journals. If they were paraphrased they would not be phrased in the way they are. Laymen do not use the jargon reserved for professionally written texts and research. Just saying.

And, BTW, that scares me.
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That's my own phrasing. I use medical jargon all the time, especially with my eye doctors. It makes everything go much quicker because instead of describing something in so many sentences, I can just give them one or two words.
 
Inward and outward as being crossed eyed?

like the right eye being stuck to the left? (outward?) and the the left eye being stuck to the right as well being (inward towards the nose?)

that is the only inward and outward I can percieve being at the same time. :dunno:

horiziontally. :dunno:
 
I think many have a fear of the unknown. Especially when it seems the outcome could be outright dangerous or scary.

I finally killed the spider in my laundry room. I'd been skipping around that thing for 5 days now. I had enough. :)
 
Nika said:
That's my own phrasing. I use medical jargon all the time, especially with my eye doctors. It makes everything go much quicker because instead of describing something in so many sentences, I can just give them one or two words.
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Your posts are decidedly more than one or two words of techinical jargon. They are paragraphs.
 
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