What if there is NO WAR?

[PowerON]

Sorry I disagree on this, the population boomed since the World War 2 ends..

other counties aren't boom either.

maybe Mr. Death find a way to keep life and death balance. More like... lot of disaster

 

[Foxrac]

China don't adopt the population control until 1979, also remember about sweet american dream were gone in China and look it...

Before 1979 (Then aka 1964)

After 1979 (Now aka 2006)

 

[Hwy99]

other counties aren't boom either.

maybe Mr. Death find a way to keep life and death balance. More like... lot of disaster

Yeah some countries didn't boomed, but mostly do.

This is the chart for the birth rate, look what happened between 1940-1950. That is why the government have too many problem with the retirement because there is too many elders in the world right now.

 

[DeafSCUBA98]

UK isn't bad as in last century ago.

yeah it isn't bad,
because the people of UK saw how americans are.. and they change overtime.. because they notice freedom is more of their taste.


i'm sure there's a history telling why they change their more flexiable kingdom.
i'm not a history buff.. but thats my opinion.

 

[DeafSCUBA98]

Sorry I disagree on this, the population boomed since the World War 2 ends..

okay you stated after the ww2 ends...

how many wars before the ww2 era?

how many wars after the ww2 era? i'm sure there's more war before the ww2 era..

remember many soilders are MEN during the ww2 era... and they are out fighting. it takes a man and a woman to produce babies.

once they're back home.. there's no war and they are finally reunite with their family.. and make babies.. that time in 50's is a popular year for produce babies. my grandparents gave birth to 5... supposly to be 9 kids but 4 died right after birth and 1 died in the babyhood times. i'm sure many of those family have many many kids too as well in the 50's just becuse the budget is easy to handle with.

again please state how many war after the ww2 era and before ww2 era.. not only USA..but worldwide.

and i personally don't believe that vietnam is the worse caustlies(sp).. i believe that ww1 and ww2 is the worse for whole world.

it doesn't mean that i believe that people should die... its just a life and death sitution that we will never end it.

i somewhat agree with china to limit to one kid.. but what i see sad thing is.. they kill their daughter or son.. if they want a girl they kill the baby boy.. if they want a boy they kill the baby girl. but also i disagree that they should do to limit their freedom. i know it will make the population down.. because simply 2 people giving a birth of 1.. losing 1 people per generation.

 

[Hwy99]

okay you stated after the ww2 ends...

how many wars before the ww2 era?

how many wars after the ww2 era? i'm sure there's more war before the ww2 era..

You are right, there is many wars before the WW2, like WW1, etc.

remember many soilders are MEN during the ww2 era... and they are out fighting. it takes a man and a woman to produce babies.

once they're back home.. there's no war and they are finally reunite with their family.. and make babies.. that time in 50's is a popular year for produce babies. my grandparents gave birth to 5... supposly to be 9 kids but 4 died right after birth and 1 died in the babyhood times. i'm sure many of those family have many many kids too as well in the 50's just becuse the budget is easy to handle with.

Yupp correctly, when army left the war, they usually reunite with the families and really desired for new babies.

again please state how many war after the ww2 era and before ww2 era.. not only USA..but worldwide.

Look at my answer above

and i personally don't believe that vietnam is the worse caustlies(sp).. i believe that ww1 and ww2 is the worse for whole world.

Well I research through the Wikipedia and it said that there is 72,155,800 deaths from the World War 2 (World War II casualties - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia), then I found out there is not lot of deaths during the Vietnam War (Vietnam War casualties - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia), but I know there is very powerful people rebel against the war at that time which makes us to prevent the draft. You are right all the way, World War 2 is the worst, especially Soviet Union.

it doesn't mean that i believe that people should die... its just a life and death sitution that we will never end it.

Yupp we are in the cycle of deaths, the death is part of our life and we can't stop it.

i somewhat agree with china to limit to one kid.. but what i see sad thing is.. they kill their daughter or son.. if they want a girl they kill the baby boy.. if they want a boy they kill the baby girl. but also i disagree that they should do to limit their freedom. i know it will make the population down.. because simply 2 people giving a birth of 1.. losing 1 people per generation.

Yeah China have no choice, I kinda agree with China too, while their population will be on the decline at 2050 in the preview. That would be good news for China because they have been struggling with the overpopulation for years.

 

[Foxrac]

Yeah China have no choice, I kinda agree with China too, while their population will be on the decline at 2050 in the preview. That would be good news for China because they have been struggling with the overpopulation for years.

If without population control in China then population would hits 2 billion, oh shit.

Same goes to USA with abortion, if abortion isn't legal in 1973 then USA would hit 300 million in 90's, also more than 40 million newborn are killed by abortion since 1973.

After collasped of Soviet Union, Russia's population are growing so slowly or decline, also low birth rate, worse than before 1991 when Soviet Union is still running and GDP were declined after collasped too. I feel that Russia would have many abandoned building, that where not enough people to live.

 

[Hwy99]

If without population control in China then population would hits 2 billion, oh shit.

Same goes to USA with abortion, if abortion isn't legal in 1973 then USA would hit 300 million in 90's, also more than 40 million newborn are killed by abortion since 1973.

After collasped of Soviet Union, Russia's population are growing so slowly or decline, also low birth rate, worse than before 1991 when Soviet Union is still running and GDP were declined after collasped too. I feel that Russia would have many abandoned building, that where not enough people to live.

Russia have been suffering from population decline since 1992, take a look at the graph at this link in Wikipedia: Demography of Russia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You will see that Russia lost 6 million of people just from 1992-2005, and will continue to decrease from 142,000,000 to 100,000,000 in 2050. I agree with you, Russia will have alot of abandoned buildings and towns, plus I disagree that Russia need whole of those lands as first world largest country...

 

[PowerON]

Russia have been suffering from population decline since 1992, take a look at the graph at this link in Wikipedia: Demography of Russia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You will see that Russia lost 6 million of people just from 1992-2005, and will continue to decrease from 142,000,000 to 100,000,000 in 2050. I agree with you, Russia will have alot of abandoned buildings and towns, plus I disagree that Russia need whole of those lands as first world largest country...

Indeed, largest country but notice that Canada is second largest country and it's much less since it's frickin cold land in northern area like Russia.

I have hear that Russia have finally improve economy and move toward modern building I have hear.

Plus, Russia parents aren't that great which I hear the most popular sent children as adopted and women want to get hell out of here.

I can't imagine as it seem that Russia make no different after WWII

 

[Hwy99]

Indeed, largest country but notice that Canada is second largest country and it's much less since it's frickin cold land in northern area like Russia.

I have hear that Russia have finally improve economy and move toward modern building I have hear.

Plus, Russia parents aren't that great which I hear the most popular sent children as adopted and women want to get hell out of here.

I can't imagine as it seem that Russia make no different after WWII

Yeah it is really oddly that Canada is the second largest country with only 32,966,700 people there! That is too low for that size of country

Canada - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Also Canada's population is growing because of the immgrants and have above average growth rate at 4.02

Demography of Canada - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So Canada would have a bright future

Unlikely Russia, their population is rapidly going down, having STDs everywhere, bad parents, too many people leaving the country, etc. Poor Russia... Yeah I heard that Russia is going to build a nice tower called "Moscow Tower" via SkyscraperPage.com.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

It is extremely common they send recruiters to the schools and colleges to talk to them and convince them to enlist without saying anything about the contracts ALL THE TIME for YEARS. That's advertisement. We also see the armed forces commericals on the TVs, and newspapers ALL THE TIME. We already know for YEARS that the recruiters will say anything to get them to ENLIST. The problem is People do NOT know how to research carefully first before they enlist and sign the contracts. We all know that once you know the circumstances of the armed forces system that is already screwed up. But if you don't care about the way the system runs, you decide to enlist and sign the contracts anyway. Bam! The government owns you. If you want to get out, you can't because of the contracts. That's the way it works. People just don't BOTHER to research first before they make decisions to enlist or not. Plain and Simple. They don't know how to use common sense. They need to learn to ASK the questions before they enlist. Easy. Really.

Yes I agree that the people need to research first before they make decision but you need to take both sides... You need to listen soliders' side... I provided links about solider's sides at other thread. I beleive none but keep myself until .......................! You beleive the fact only... How do you know that it's fact? I do not care either fact or rumor but accept their fact or rumor because I know the meida or whatever say too much negative and positive... I am interesting and beleive in what the people/soliders experienced and how they had through etc...


http://www.alldeaf.com/807598-post25.html

Those people don't know how to shut up when they don't bother to separate the facts from rumors first.

Now, This is his THIRD attempt to bring back the Universal National Service Act of 2007 AGAIN. That's how the politicians (some of them are lawyers) enjoy manipulating and misleading the public and the military. That's why your soldiers at work keep gossiping about false rumors and start worrying and don't bother to pay attentions to the facts. Why do you think some don't bother to research the contracts first before they enlisted? They're still ignorant the whole time and don't bother to look up the facts.

I know from those rumor what I said in other thread that US government plan to get it back and many Americans are against it. Is it harm to share what I know from rumor because the people has the right to know before they prepare or make decision, no matter either it's fact or rumor... Nobody says that the rumor is true but it is likely "warning". I don't blame soliders for that.

Stop spreading false rumors all the time when we have already know that the whole DC strongly oppose the draft the whole time.

Did I said that the rumor is true? Nobody says this but it is sort of "warning"... which is good because we prepare to know or ignore instead of complaint or whine over those rumor... I need to open my mind no matter what...

I beleive none but keep myself until .......................! You beleive the fact only... How do you know that it's fact? I do not care either fact or rumor but accept their fact or rumor because I know the meida or whatever say too much negative and positive... I am interesting and beleive in what the people/soliders experienced and how they had through etc...

 

[Barbaro]

Yes I agree that the people need to research first before they make decision but you need to take both sides... You need to listen soliders' side... I provided links about solider's sides at other thread. I beleive none but keep myself until .......................! You beleive the fact only... How do you know that it's fact? I do not care either fact or rumor but accept their fact or rumor because I know the meida or whatever say too much negative and positive... I am interesting and beleive in what the people/soliders experienced and how they had through etc...

http://www.alldeaf.com/807598-post25.html

I know from those rumor what I said in other thread that US government plan to get it back and many Americans are against it. Is it harm to share what I know from rumor because the people has the right to know before they prepare or make decision, no matter either it's fact or rumor... Nobody says that the rumor is true but it is likely "warning". I don't blame soliders for that.

Did I said that the rumor is true? Nobody says this but it is sort of "warning"... which is good because we prepare to know or ignore instead of complaint or whine over those rumor... I need to open my mind no matter what...

I beleive none but keep myself until .......................! You beleive the fact only... How do you know that it's fact? I do not care either fact or rumor but accept their fact or rumor because I know the meida or whatever say too much negative and positive... I am interesting and beleive in what the people/soliders experienced and how they had through etc...

Liebling, l love you, but I honestly want to say that you didn't peruse my original post. You have stated the same what I stated in my original post. I have to rephrase my post again.

Yes I agree that the people need to research first before they make decision but you need to take both sides... You need to listen soliders' side... I provided links about solider's sides at other thread. I beleive none but keep myself until .......................! You beleive the fact only... How do you know that it's fact? I do not care either fact or rumor but accept their fact or rumor because I know the meida or whatever say too much negative and positive... I am interesting and beleive in what the people/soliders experienced and how they had through etc...


http://www.alldeaf.com/807598-post25.html

Nobody likes the media bias. I have been listening to the military's side almost everyday here. I live in one of the largest military towns in the whole nation and it is extremely a tight knit community here. I have seen everything, including military guys with missing arms, legs, hands, fingers, and even an eye and receive physical therapies. Some are emotionally and physically distraught, but receive helps in counsel programs. Every war changes everyone's life. I know one of my close friends who lost 16 friends at once in the same year. I have met many marines, soldiers and sailors in my classes talking about their experiences, UN trips, Iraq and Afghanistan all the time. Personally, I'm a diplomatic brat myself and even had had bodyguards and I'm not to be posting some of the things online for security and personal reasons. I know diplomatic brats, military brats, officer wives, officers, a former navy seal officer, a navy pilot, and MP marine. A Special Forces / UN peace keeper friend of mine is responsible for setting up the military funerals for years and he loves every minute of it because he wants to serve it. He also has lost many friends from the officer school he knew and did set up for their military funerals. I have dated military guys before and I am still friends with them. I was in public relation for six years and had been brought their memorabilia and stories to the gallery shows to tell their experiences.

I do not care either fact or rumor but accept their fact or rumor because I know the meida or whatever say too much negative and positive...

I apologize for not understanding what you said. I have tried to translate it in ASL syntax in order to understand you. Can you rephrase the line from your first paragraph for me, please? I want to be sure we can understand each other on the same page.

I know from those rumor what I said in other thread that US government plan to get it back and many Americans are against it. Is it harm to share what I know from rumor because the people has the right to know before they prepare or make decision, no matter either it's fact or rumor... Nobody says that the rumor is true but it is likely "warning". I don't blame soliders for that.

There is no harm to share what you know from rumor. Reba did say it is important to separate rumors from facts. That's the point. I have already said that the American people, including Webexplorer despise Congressman Charles Rangel. Charles Rangel is the government. He is the one who has been bringing the bill on purpose every year in order to frighten and encourage the American people to think that it could happen to our children. That's what provoke them to do something such as research first, opposing the bills, and pulling the troop out of Iraq. There are very few Republican and Democrat congressmen who support him. He has brought up Universal National Service of 2007 bill again, because he wants to hasten by frightening the rich that the government can send their rich children to the war if the bill was passed in order to persuade the rich to oppose the bills and pulling the troop out of Iraq. He used the method to achieve a goal.

Did I said that the rumor is true? Nobody says this but it is sort of "warning"... which is good because we prepare to know or ignore instead of complaint or whine over those rumor... I need to open my mind no matter what...

Read my original post again. The eleventh entire paragraph is addressed directly to Congressman Charles Rangel, not you.

I beleive none but keep myself until .......................! You beleive the fact only... How do you know that it's fact? I do not care either fact or rumor but accept their fact or rumor because I know the meida or whatever say too much negative and positive... I am interesting and beleive in what the people/soliders experienced and how they had through etc...

I notice your first and last paragraphs are the same. I am just informing you you accidentally forgot to delete the last paragraph when you have already had stated the line in your first paragraph. Or did you want to state it twice?

 

[Barbaro]

I hope that they find a way to move for a better living in another country or here. I am sure that you could be right that Chavez could be insane, and I don't see anything like that on the news. But, you have the information from your friend, and I do believe it.

You know that it is not a good idea to believe what we see on the news from other countries. Today, the news warns us that some terrorists are coming here - why? The government wants us to think about it and support the government. Bush will may extends his term after his 2nd term is expired so that he able to do his power to run the office a little longer because of the terrorist news. Let's say that the news reporters talk about elections as a final day or so, Bush can cut the media news and put it on another show so that he does not want us to see the election result. Don't expect to believe me until the election days to see what happens.

I can invite her here, but she would not want to debate the politics. She has strong views and will not intend to discuss it online ever for personal reasons. She had given me the sources in Spanish and English, so I can read the updates what's going on in Venezuela. She is a diplomatic brat like me. At least, you can check the Spanish-speaking blogs and news such as Mega Resistencia , El Universal, Venezuela Today, etc. Most of them contain English articles and Youtube videos. Hugo Chavez is a menace. I have read somewhere in the Spanish speaking article that indicates Chavez is clinically insane. He treats women like second class. He often loves to make jokes about women in his public speeches. He even believes he is Simon Bolivar at the time women are in home. He's even against women dying hairs. Last month, some mothers in poor neighborhood in Caracas are protesting because the Bolivarian school lunches are served in a propaganda filled pro-Chavez lunch box with their food wrapped the slogan "Con Chavez un solo gobierno" (With Chavez just one government.) I recently read the article that indicates over 1,000 Venezuelans apply for asylum in the US.

I am no fan of the media bias. I'm a diplomatic brat myself and unfortunately, have seen what really happened behind the government doors when the media never have reported anything what's really going on behind the doors. I highly doubt Pres. Bush will continue his third term after his second term expires.

 

[XBGMER]

Their post really interesting me!

What does WAR meaning by that? WAR is meaning that warriors protect your own people and people's freedoms against the enemy who put people under his dictatorship law without freddom nor power.

So, Some I disgree with.. But I respect their opinions of comments in post.

Here I really not care about China/ Asia. I really not care asian people are very intelligances in high level. ((YAWN)) if they were, then why not they stay there to fight their own rights and freedom for people in their own country. they are very smarter but they are not. In USA, I haven't see any asian people gain their power. They just come here to privilage and entitle works, politics, civil rights etc without fight their rights unlike black people do. They use this freedom nation with 48 states unlike their countries are divides and pieces for many years. they didnt created this 48 states into one RICH AND WEATHY nation of powerful military and one langauge: english. they seek for regfuee, freedom, and learn the english how to speak so quick than their own native tonuges without fight nor invade. Like ancient times, strangers moved into egypt, adopt egypt's language, then they ended up to rule and ruin egypt's civilization, Again foreginers (asians) moved into Greek and Rome EMPIRE's own glorious civilization that where ended up immigrants and citizens divide land into wars. I knew their history repeat itself. NOTHING CHANGES. that what is my own TRUE perecptive.

China is not the end of the world. I am sure many of you don't know that north america is ACTUALLY the end of the world. no else.

Anyway..back this topic:

Why should I worry about wars in iraq, wars in mexico, wars in asia? I nothing do with them. I don't care about wars in their countries, their events is not relate this history.

there is impossbile for no war in USA.

In USA: race coming WAR!

I am laughing behind them, people from mexico, asia, arab, ethiopia, on and on whoever come this country for unite and peace which they never have experince with their own countries. they telling the whole world that they get along eachothers better than their own countries.

They knew that they never getta along with america black, and immgrant people of the world dont get along themselves also, before How can many various foreigners get along eachothers? wait and see the events in usa what happen there.. there will no peace, peace at all. but WAR come!

LIKE CAESAR AND HILTER already warned the usa by their predictable, but the world want USA ignore their precitable was fulfilled. you wait and see predictable will be FULFILL.

 

[Hwy99]

XBGMER, don't forget that there is LOT of American foreginers outside USA too.

 

[PowerON]

China is not the end of the world. I am sure many of you don't know that north america is ACTUALLY the end of the world. no else.

North America? include Mexico and Canada?

Comeon, US is only Superpower in the world. Russia use to be but not anymore.

there is impossbile for no war in USA.

Last time we had war in US in 1941. However, if UK fall in defense, then Nazi able to move next strike on US.

LIKE CAESAR AND HILTER already warned the usa by their predictable, but the world want USA ignore their precitable was fulfilled. you wait and see predictable will be FULFILL.

WTF? Caesar don't know US exist.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Liebling, l love you, but I honestly want to say that you didn't peruse my original post. You have stated the same what I stated in my original post. I have to rephrase my post again.

I quoted part of your post to say what I have my opinion about your post "The problem is People do NOT know how to research carefully first before they enlist and sign the contracts" and leave part of your post alone because I agree with you.

Nobody likes the media bias. I have been listening to the military's side almost everyday here. I live in one of the largest military towns in the whole nation and it is extremely a tight knit community here. I have seen everything, including military guys with missing arms, legs, hands, fingers, and even an eye and receive physical therapies. Some are emotionally and physically distraught, but receive helps in counsel programs. Every war changes everyone's life. I know one of my close friends who lost 16 friends at once in the same year. I have met many marines, soldiers and sailors in my classes talking about their experiences, UN trips, Iraq and Afghanistan all the time. Personally, I'm a diplomatic brat myself and even had had bodyguards and I'm not to be posting some of the things online for security and personal reasons. I know diplomatic brats, military brats, officer wives, officers, a former navy seal officer, a navy pilot, and MP marine. A Special Forces / UN peace keeper friend of mine is responsible for setting up the military funerals for years and he loves every minute of it because he wants to serve it. He also has lost many friends from the officer school he knew and did set up for their military funerals. I have dated military guys before and I am still friends with them. I was in public relation for six years and had been brought their memorabilia and stories to the gallery shows to tell their experiences.

Understood... It's sad story... It's good to know that you listen and support soliders' side. I agreed that they should not sign their contract until they are 100% sure... or leave expert to examine the contracts.

I apologize for not understanding what you said. I have tried to translate it in ASL syntax in order to understand you. Can you rephrase the line from your first paragraph for me, please? I want to be sure we can understand each other on the same page.

Accord your post:
"Those people don't know how to shut up when they don't bother to separate the facts from rumors first."

I tried to explain you that we received positive or negative information from Media or whatever like this... How could we shut up when we receive positive or negative from anywhere including media... When one person told me off to shut up and stick the fact from rumors. How could we shut up when we know for the sure either it's fact or not? That's what I am trying to explain that we only accept what the media written or what the people talk... it's "sort of warning" to me until official.... Example: The hot rumor spread out for 20 years that army caserne where I work will closed down... .I heard those old rumors many times for 20 years... They closed some army casernes in Germany. I accept those rumor and do if nothing happened... I beleive in is get a letter then OFFICIAL... The rumor spread out for few years that we will move out to other army caserne but I keep it myself until the rumor is true at few month ago... I rather to keep myself or share the rumor until official.... then is FACT. How do anyone know that it's fact when it's not official yet?

I hope you understand what I mean. If not, then I don't mind to explain again.

There is no harm to share what you know from rumor. Reba did say it is important to separate rumors from facts. That's the point.

Yes, I know but how do anyone know that it's facts when it's not official yet?

I have already said that the American people, including Webexplorer despise Congressman Charles Rangel. Charles Rangel is the government. He is the one who has been bringing the bill on purpose every year in order to frighten and encourage the American people to think that it could happen to our children. That's what provoke them to do something such as research first, opposing the bills, and pulling the troop out of Iraq. There are very few Republican and Democrat congressmen who support him. He has brought up Universal National Service of 2007 bill again, because he wants to hasten by frightening the rich that the government can send their rich children to the war if the bill was passed in order to persuade the rich to oppose the bills and pulling the troop out of Iraq. He used the method to achieve a goal.

Yes I do beleive you. Charles tried to do anything to make his people to support him... He do not give up.... I can understand that it frighten the people but they should try not scare since they know it's not official.

Read my original post again. The eleventh entire paragraph is addressed directly to Congressman Charles Rangel, not you.

Yes I know.

I notice your first and last paragraphs are the same. I am just informing you you accidentally forgot to delete the last paragraph when you have already had stated the line in your first paragraph. Or did you want to state it twice?

:Oops: You got my attention... I forget to delete it after pasted those paragraph ....

Nooo, I do not need to state twice... Ooohhh